Exactly Khanster, greeney has been told this so many times but I guess he doesn't buy it?
There is no valid logical proof of God's existence greeney, if I could cite one obviously I would be a believer.
Frrosted, I was simply refuting an argument made in this very thread and elsewhere for centuries! I'm glad you agree the logical proofs are silly distractions at best.
If an infinitely powerful, infinitely complex supreme being as the creator of everything is our simplest solution, then I guess we're in a pretty sorry position. As an explanation, for me, there is nothing more complicated. I think there is nothing we could conjure up that could be more complicated than explaining the existence of an all-powerful being, except perhaps having to explain the existence of two?
As for infinite Universes being hogwash, in modern science it is generally accepted that alternate Universes exist now, based on converging scientific evidence that doesn't even have anything to do with the big bang, so rather than being far-fetched it is considered very likely at this stage, among cosmologists.
Scientific evidence aside, in more simple common sense terms, if you accept a big bang without a creator, which atheists do, parallel Universes with different laws are a logical consequence of that anyway. A singular natural big bang event makes no sense, really. Once you accept it occurred, you're compelled to accept the likelihood of parallel Universes too, just as anyone accepting life coming into existence from non-life must accept that life is going to be widespread throughout the Universe. It's not an idea that atheists have just tacked onto the end of big bang theory to explain the fine tuning of the Universe, it really is a logical consequence of it.
Either you accept a big bang without a creator or you don't, but for those who do, it only really makes sense for there to be a great number of them. I can't think of anything that occurs naturally that just happens a single time only and that's it.
"All of our behavior can be traced to biological events about which we have no conscious knowledge: this has always suggested that free will is an illusion."
- Sam Harris