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Re: Idea Theory

Postby khanster » Sun May 27, 2012 4:07 am

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Re: Idea Theory

Postby at1with0 » Sun May 27, 2012 9:48 am

What are some of the results about ideas that I can sink my teeth into?
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby khanster » Sun May 27, 2012 5:25 pm

at1with0 wrote:What are some of the results about ideas that I can sink my teeth into?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_ ... e_Forms.3F


A Form is an objective "blueprint" of perfection. The Forms are perfect themselves because they are unchanging. For example, say we have a triangle drawn on a blackboard. A triangle is a polygon with 3 sides. The triangle as it is on the blackboard is far from perfect. However, it is only the intelligibility of the Form "triangle" that allows us to know the drawing on the chalkboard is a triangle, and the Form "triangle" is perfect and unchanging. It is exactly the same whenever anyone chooses to consider it; however, the time is that of the observer and not of the triangle.


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Re: Idea Theory

Postby khanster » Sun May 27, 2012 5:46 pm

Ultimately all ideas are timeless archetypes or "forms" and the mind discovers these archetypes.

Is math discovered or invented?

It is discovered.
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby at1with0 » Sun May 27, 2012 5:52 pm

Is an idea that cannot be expressed in words an idea?
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby khanster » Sun May 27, 2012 6:07 pm

at1with0 wrote:Is an idea that cannot be expressed in words an idea?


It is expressible, once the languages is advanced enough.
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby DIss0n80r » Sun May 27, 2012 6:53 pm

You have no idea if that can actually happen, though, do you?
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby at1with0 » Sun May 27, 2012 7:00 pm

By definition, an idea that cannot be expressed in words cannot be expressed in words.
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby DIss0n80r » Sun May 27, 2012 7:28 pm

Although symbols can express many truths, I doubt they can express all truths...

However, those failures themselves may be clues pointing to an inexpressible truth. We may able to understand such truths even though they transcend language.
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Re: Idea Theory

Postby khanster » Sun May 27, 2012 10:23 pm

All ideas can be encoded as information.
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