The Black Vault

Slag is slag...elements on Mars are the same elements the Earth is made of. Al this is so much wishful thinking.

ignoramce is bliss

My response to the Bob White object is the same I have to the Crystal from Atlantis found by the late Dr. Ray Brown.

I couldn't care less what either of them is. That information will not help me pay my bills, deal with my life-threatening illness, or get into Heaven. So it's irrelevant.

we all die...its how you do it while your here that makes it worth while in my opinion.

if you have no interest why did you even post any kind of response...you read it so i guess you are interested..

you say you worry about getting into heaven..what if these objects are heaven sent to teach us... if you read the bible its a ufo story from page one..in the beginning god in the heavens....created all...

is god real??? or is god and alien creator???

are we an experiment?? who the hell knows but im courious enough to want some answers to the bob white question...where did the artifact come from??

no has told me yet...no one has shown me another one...the object is real...the bible is a belief system of a supreme being...the object bob recovered i can see feel and touch..

have you touched god today??

oh yeah and i believe in god to...

bluz

Correction: I did not say I was worried about getting into heaven. What I said was that neither the BWO nor Ray Brown's crystal would be of any avail in getting there.

Nor would any physical object, for that matter.


No, the Bible is not a UFO story from page one. If God or His Angels needed a physical craft to move around in then they would only be beings from a more advanced civilization...not DIVINE.

But there is no Scriptural record of God using a UFO. Nor of His angels requiring one. As for Ezekiel and his vision...who knows WHAT he saw? Could it have been a UFO? Certainly. Equally it might just have been a form for something that HAS no form and not a spacecraft at all. A "vehicle" certainly...but only in the sense that the body is the vehicle for the soul (or MIND, if you prefer).

No, there is really only ONE story in the Bible that suggests a UFO and that is concerned with the story of Elijah the "Tishbite." It seems he got "beamed" up by one. But then, Elijah probably wasn't from Earth in the first place.

Take the word "Tishbite." It means "stranger" as does the name of his town "Tishbe."
In other words "the Town of Folks who ain't from around here."

Elijah (one must remember) was after the reign of David and his son, Solomon when Jerusalem was one of the capitals of the known world. EVERYONE sent ambassadors and tradesmen and so on there for this was one of the richest Kingdoms then extant.

Yet we know nothing about Elijah. Alone among the Prophets of the Bible he has no father...no mother...no family.

He is...a stranger.

Maybe a visitor from another world....COULD be.

This we DO know...the town of "The Strangers" has completely disappeared. The Bible says that the town was in Gilead.

Not even ruins have been found. Whoever these people were...they left no trace behind them when they went...well, WHEREVER they went.

as i said before the bible is full of ufo stories,
Flying Vehicles

Spinning Objects
There are 17 verses describing spinning objects
as vehicles in the Bible

2 Kings
Spinning Chariots Of Fire Take Elijah
2:11 And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 12 And Elisha saw it, and he cried, My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the horsemen thereof. And he saw him no more: and he took hold of his own clothes, and rent them in two pieces.
Elijah and Elisha are talking and suddenly, a bright, flying vehicle and a cavalry of bright, flying objects appear. Elijah ascends into the sky, taken by a spinning,flying vehicle. The word translated into horses, 'cuwc' means rapid movement or flight. This cavalry of glowing vehicles is, most likely, the army spoken of where hosts appears.

Job
Out Of A Spinning Object
38:1 Then the Lord answered Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Yhovah speaks to Job out of a spinning, flying object.

40:6 Then answered the Lord unto Job out of the whirlwind, and said,
Again, Yhovah speaks to Job out of a rotating, flying object.

An Illuminated, Flying Wheel
77:18 The voice of thy thunder was in the heaven: the lightnings lightened the world: the earth trembled and shook.
Heaven = wheel. Lightning = flash.

Psalms
Elohiym's Spinning Wheel
83:13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
This object is definitely spinning and capable of firing weapons that burn and cause fires. Make them = place. Tempest and storm = hurricane.

Proverbs
A Wheel Above
20:26 A wise king scattereth the wicked, and bringeth the wheel over them.
Is this referring to a wheel as a weapon?

Isaiah
Descending, Flashing, Spinning Vehicles
66:15 For, behold, the Lord will come with fire, and with his chariots like a whirlwind, to render his anger with fury, and his rebuke with flames of fire.
Yhovah comes with fire and vehicles like whirlwinds and shows his anger with flashing fire.

Jeremiah
Swift, Ascending, Spinning Vehicles
4:13 Behold, he shall come up as clouds, and his chariots shall be as a whirlwind: his horses are swifter than eagles. Woe unto us! for we are spoiled.
Yhovah will ascend with a thundercloud, like a whirlwind. The speed of his vehicle is swifter than eagles. Horse = rapid flight.

Yhovah's Spinning Craft
23:19 Behold, a whirlwind of the Lord is gone forth in fury, even a grievous whirlwind: it shall fall grievously upon the head of the wicked.
The whirlwind of Yhovah has gone forth as a furious whirlwind and it will whirl on the enemy.

A Great ,Spinning, Flying Army Craft
25:32 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Behold, evil shall go forth from nation to nation, and a great whirlwind shall be raised up from the coasts of the earth.
A great whirlwind will originate from the far corners of the Earth.

Perpetually Spinning Craft
30:23 Behold, the whirlwind of the Lord goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.
The whirlwind of Yhovah will go forward with fury. A whirlwind will whirl roughly on the head of the wicked.

Ezekiel
Glowing, Spinning, Metallic Craft
1:4 And I looked, and, behold, a whirlwind came out of the north, a great cloud, and a fire infolding itself, and a brightness was about it, and out of the midst thereof as the colour of amber, out of the midst of the fire.
A rushing, windy, great, thundercloud-like flying craft flew out of the north. The vehicle had the appearance of brilliant, glowing fire all around it. The center of the illumination, the vehicle, was like polished metal.

Amos
A Whirling Vehicle
1:14 But I will kindle a fire in the wall of Rabbah, and it shall devour the palaces thereof, with shouting in the day of battle, with a tempest in the day of the whirlwind.
Tempest = hurricane.

Nahum
Yhovah's Whirlwind
1:3 The Lord is slow to anger, and great in power, and will not at all acquit the wicked: the Lord hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet.
Yhovah has his way in a revolving vehicle above the clouds.

Zechariah
Yhovah Goes With Whirlwinds
9:14 And the Lord shall be seen over them, and his arrow shall go forth as the lightning: and the Lord God shall blow the trumpet, and shall go with whirlwinds of the south.
Yhovah will appear. Piercing objects will flash out, a ram’s horn will sound, and Yahovah will go in a whirlwind.

he Greatest Close Encounter in History, The Exodus

This encounter starts with a conversation from a glowing vehicle on the ground, follows the high-tech
harassment of the reluctant Pharaoh, and Hebrew's flight from Egypt, Moses' entry into the vehicle, and then records
the forty year wanderings of the nation of Israel as it is directly led by aerial guidance. Scores of descriptions
and encounters with flying vehicles, advanced technology, and space age weaponry are recorded during this journey. The Exodus section of this site covers the individual instances, but a complete read of the book is worthwhile.

Descriptions That Verify a Flying Guiding Vehicle
♦ The escort that accompanies the travelers is called a "pillar of a cloud" by day and a "a pillar of fire" by night. The word pillar is translated from `ammuwd, pronounced, am-mood; a column as standing; also a stand, i.e. platform. This means that this could either be a column or a platform that had the appearance of a cloud in the daylight and when the sun went down, it lit up. And, it is staying close to the people, in other words, hovering. When considered in light of the many other descriptions, replacing the word platform where pillar appears seems a more logical choice.
♦ The platform comes directly between the Hebrews and the pursuing Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:19)
♦ The platform harassed the Egyptian army. (Exodus 14:24)
♦ The "glory of the Lord appeared in the cloud" that leads the Hebrews. (Exodus 16:10)
♦ The lord ascended on Mount Sinai with great lights beaming into the night sky, shaking the mountain greatly and broadcasting very loud sounds with increasing volume. (Exodus 19:18 -20, 20:18)
♦ People were fearful of the vehicle. (Exodus 20:18)
♦ The platform/cloud descends and hovers. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Numbers 12:5)
♦ The platform/cloud ascends. (Exodus 40:36)
♦ God broadcasts his voice from the platform/cloud. (Exodus 33:9, 34:5, Psalms 99:7)
♦ The people follow the platform wherever it led them and was always with them. (Exodus 40:36-38, Numbers 9:17-18, 10:34, Nehemiah 9:19)
♦ The cloud provides shade and light. (Numbers 9:16)
♦ The platform/cloud hovers above the group for days, months and even up to a year. (Numbers 9: 22)
♦ The cloud takes off and lands. (Numbers 10:11-12)
♦ The vehicle protects the people. (Numbers 14:14)
♦ The platform/cloud scouts ahead for places that the Hebrews will rest. (Deuteronomy 1:33)

this is just a smattering of the encounters written in the bible..
yeap the greatest UFO story ever told..

bluz

well put larry, vbut he cant help his attitude of trashing everything ufo connected. yet he reads them all.

http://ufoevidence.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=BUNK

skeptic rag a zine tried to do some debunking of the bob white object..

they arent very good at it either..

they got some moron to say he knows what it is..yeah right we dont even know what it is and he has never even seen or held the object let alone solve the mystery.

i hate wanna be's.

bluz

A-MAN to that!! most are just ignorant. think thay know everything yet know nothing of any value to anyone, except to there inflated ego's
thunder

heh thunder,
ok some news. grin.
a lab has been testing soil samples from the landing area if the ufo that bob saw in 1985 and were he recovered the artifact.

he has gotten readings of gamma , beta and alpha detected in h
the soil samples.
he has figured out the decay rate and he is very excited about the findings so ar. hes been testing the stuff i sent him for almost 2 months now.

thats just another anomaly associated with the object, the ufo and the testing we have done on emf and radiation detected from the object. it still has its emf signals on 2 distinct frequencies 500 hertz
and a high band we havnt put a number to yet. buts it there

i will be at the ozark ufo conferenced in april with all the new
informtion

http://www.facebook.com/UFOHARDEVIDENCE

http://ozarkufoconference.com/speakers.htm

bluz