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Postby khanster » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:13 pm

DIss0n80r wrote:When the machines take over, freedom will become irrelevant anyhow. They will decide what matters. It will ultimately be no different from the divine dictatorship of a supernatural God.

More power for the powerful.


It is inevitable that the machines will "take over", yes. The only way out is by becoming a machine, whereby all humanness is lost.

http://www.singularitysymposium.com/ted-kaczynski.html

Similarly to Samuel Butler , the source of Ted Kaczynski's technophobia was his fear that:

"... the human race might easily permit itself to drift into a position of such dependence on the machines that it would have no practical choice but to accept all of the machines decisions. As society and the problems that face it become more and more complex and machines become more and more intelligent, people will let machines make more of their decision for them, simply because machine-made decisions will bring better result than man-made ones. Eventually a stage may be reached at which the decisions necessary to keep the system running will be so complex that human beings will be incapable of making them intelligently. At that stage the machines will be in effective control. People won't be able to just turn the machines off, because they will be so dependent on them that turning them off would amount to suicide."

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Postby DIss0n80r » Sat Apr 28, 2012 6:34 pm

Maybe Super Jesus will return from Krypton to save the day before that happens.
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Postby khanster » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:09 pm

DIss0n80r wrote:Maybe Super Jesus will return from Krypton to save the day before that happens.


If Jesus exists in some possible world, then Jesus exists in all possible worlds.
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Postby DIss0n80r » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:39 pm

Why?
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Postby khanster » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:46 pm

DIss0n80r wrote:Why?



http://www.doxa.ws/Ontological/possiblewrolds.html


P1 A thing has maximal greatness if and only if it has maximal excellence in every possible world.

P2 Whatever has maximal excellence is omniscient, omnipotent and morally perfect.

P3 There is a possible world in which the property of possessing maximal greatness is exemplified.

P4 The property of possessing maximal greatness is exemplified in every possible world.

P5 If maximal greatness is exemplified in every world, then it is exemplified in this world.

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Postby DIss0n80r » Sat Apr 28, 2012 7:54 pm

Huh?
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Postby khanster » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:09 pm

DIss0n80r wrote:Huh?


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Postby DIss0n80r » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:17 pm

He's a funny lookin dude.
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Postby khanster » Sat Apr 28, 2012 8:22 pm

DIss0n80r wrote:He's a funny lookin dude.


Looks are irrelevant with regards to the truth of the ontological argument.

But trolling does relieve stress, so I forgive you Dissonator :D
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Postby greeney2 » Sat Apr 28, 2012 9:27 pm

And I thought it was abstract and getting the dictionary out again! :o
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