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Postby at1with0 » Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:07 pm

I should have said "should" instead of "Does" but you answered that, too.
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Postby frrostedman » Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:52 pm

at1with0 wrote:I should have said "should" instead of "Does" but you answered that, too.


I like how I said "stage or prengancy" instead of "stage of pregnancy." I'm getting old. I'm slippin' ... :cry:
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Postby Island_Girl » Fri Apr 20, 2012 8:51 pm

frrostedman wrote:
at1with0 wrote:I should have said "should" instead of "Does" but you answered that, too.


I like how I said "stage or prengancy" instead of "stage of pregnancy." I'm getting old. I'm slippin' ... :cry:



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( I couldn't resist) ;)
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Postby frrostedman » Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:20 am

Island_Girl wrote:
frrostedman wrote:
at1with0 wrote:I should have said "should" instead of "Does" but you answered that, too.


I like how I said "stage or prengancy" instead of "stage of pregnancy." I'm getting old. I'm slippin' ... :cry:



“Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player, that struts and frets his hour upon the stage and then is heard no more; it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.”

( I couldn't resist) ;)

Morbid.

Thanks. :cry:
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Postby bionic » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:08 am

at1with0 wrote:An analogy...

Suppose some one or some thing is making a watch.
At what point does that watch start existing?



The moment someone calls it a watch?

seriously..to me, it's at the point it begins to start counting time.. ticking..until then ..it's simply the formation of a watch..if it should break..after that..after it has been fully formed and up and running..then it is a broken watch
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Postby at1with0 » Wed Apr 25, 2012 11:49 am

A broken watch, eh?

A broken watch is a watch.

I wonder how that fits into my metaphor..
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:00 pm

Bionic in every example you still called it a watch, so it must be a watch in every stage of building it, even if it is not a functioning watch yet. Many procucts designs and concepts, never made it past the drawing board, but they were still referred to, by what they would have been.
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Postby humphreys » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:29 am

At1, I think you are making this more complicated than it needs to be.

First, define "watch". Now, whenever whatever you have matches that definition, it is a watch. If it doesn't match, it is not a watch.

What's wrong with that?
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Postby at1with0 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:14 pm

Define watch.

Ask yourself what if I remove the hour hand. Is it still a watch?
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Postby humphreys » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:48 pm

You are the one who needs to define watch because you're asking the question of when a "watch" is a watch ;)

Once you have your definition, you have your answer, and if you still don't, then your definition is insufficient. For me, this is just a question of language rather than the deep philosophical question you are implying it is.
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