The Black Vault

frrostedman wrote:

event_horizon wrote:Awww gimmie f'n break. You can't handle the truth.

You call this stuff "hostile nature and verbal assaults?" Your drama queenliness never ceases to amaze me.

You can be more sensitive than the most sensitive woman I know sometimes.

You'd make the perfect Progressive Liberal. You can't argue a point using actual facts and logical deductions. The only tool you have in your briefcase is to close your ears to anything anyone else says, and spew hatred and lies. The only hope you have to score any points in debate is to drag the other one down to your level where you can heap the blame on them... for being like you.

It's pitiful.

frrostedman wrote:You can't argue a point using actual facts and logical deductions.

event_horizon wrote:especially when you truly believe EVERY SINGLE ONE of your prayers ends up getting fulfilled.

You're utterly ridiculous to me.

frrostedman wrote:

event_horizon wrote:especially when you truly believe EVERY SINGLE ONE of your prayers ends up getting fulfilled.

Wrong. Read again. Then again, don't. I don't care. Just pointing out your error.

frrostedman wrote:Every prayer I have ever prayed--when I am filled with the Holy Spirit--has not only come to pass, but in most cases has come to pass right away. One time I prayed for something and the phone rang not 5 minutes later with exactly what I prayed for. But that wouldn't stand on its own; there are several other instances where something similar occured.

All believers know the feeling. You can feel it when you are filled with the Holy Spirit and you know when you aren't. I have prayed countless prayers. All heartfelt prayers have gone answered, many times not like I anticipated, not as fast as I wanted, etc. Those are the ones I prayed because I prayed out of an obligation to do so but was not filled with the Spirit.

It is impossible to explain but I am being utterly and completely honest. Since my conversion to Christ, I can probably count the number of Holy-Spirit-filled prayers on 2 hands. Those were answered immediately and I got exactly what I prayed for; and I could tell I was filled with the Spirit because I could sense that my prayer was not in the form of a question, but was instead in the form of a confident gratefulness, because I already knew it was going to happen. All the others, some were answered like I wanted and as fast as I wanted, but most were answered long after the prayer, and not necessarily the way I personally desired.

What we have to understand is. When you are filled with the Holy Spirit, you are connected to God and truth. At that point, you couldn't pray for something that wouldn't come to pass, even if you wanted to, because the Holy Spirit is actually communicating through you at the same time--basically telling you this is going to happen just as you prayed for it. But if you pray and you are not filled with the Spirit--which is ok and you are obligated to do so anyway--your prayer is going to be subjected to your desire vs. God's will and the prayers of all those around you which may be in direct conflict with what you pray for.

frrostedman wrote:

You're utterly ridiculous to me.

Ditto. Everytime we engage, I get this sick and embarassed feeling that I'm actually taking the time to debate a 5-year-old throwing a temper tantrum.

event_horizon wrote:

frrostedman wrote:

event_horizon wrote:especially when you truly believe EVERY SINGLE ONE of your prayers ends up getting fulfilled.

Wrong. Read again. Then again, don't. I don't care. Just pointing out your error.

frrostedman wrote:Every prayer I have ever prayed--when I am filled with the Holy Spirit--has not only come to pass, but in most cases has come to pass right away. One time I prayed for something and the phone rang not 5 minutes later with exactly what I prayed for. But that wouldn't stand on its own; there are several other instances where something similar occured.

All believers know the feeling. You can feel it when you are filled with the Holy Spirit and you know when you aren't. I have prayed countless prayers. All heartfelt prayers have gone answered, many times not like I anticipated, not as fast as I wanted, etc. Those are the ones I prayed because I prayed out of an obligation to do so but was not filled with the Spirit.

It is impossible to explain but I am being utterly and completely honest. Since my conversion to Christ, I can probably count the number of Holy-Spirit-filled prayers on 2 hands. Those were answered immediately and I got exactly what I prayed for; and I could tell I was filled with the Spirit because I could sense that my prayer was not in the form of a question, but was instead in the form of a confident gratefulness, because I already knew it was going to happen. All the others, some were answered like I wanted and as fast as I wanted, but most were answered long after the prayer, and not necessarily the way I personally desired.

What we have to understand is. When you are filled with the Holy Spirit, you are connected to God and truth. At that point, you couldn't pray for something that wouldn't come to pass, even if you wanted to, because the Holy Spirit is actually communicating through you at the same time--basically telling you this is going to happen just as you prayed for it. But if you pray and you are not filled with the Spirit--which is ok and you are obligated to do so anyway--your prayer is going to be subjected to your desire vs. God's will and the prayers of all those around you which may be in direct conflict with what you pray for.

So in your world, the only prayers that ever go unanswered is if your prayer goes against the majority? I didn't realize prayer was a democracy.

frrostedman wrote:

You're utterly ridiculous to me.

Ditto. Everytime we engage, I get this sick and embarassed feeling that I'm actually taking the time to debate a 5-year-old throwing a temper tantrum.

Ah, okay...so in your fantasyworld, when someone pokes fun at your lunacy, you view that as them throwing a "temper tantrum"? Wow man.

Get a grip.

frrostedman wrote:

event_horizon wrote:Awww gimmie f'n break. You can't handle the truth.

You call this stuff "hostile nature and verbal assaults?" Your drama queenliness never ceases to amaze me.

You can be more sensitive than the most sensitive woman I know sometimes.

You'd make the perfect Progressive Liberal. You can't argue a point using actual facts and logical deductions. The only tool you have in your briefcase is to close your ears to anything anyone else says, and spew hatred and lies. The only hope you have to score any points in debate is to drag the other one down to your level where you can heap the blame on them... for being like you.

It's pitiful.

Sleepwalk wrote:But I see what the other posters are talking about regarding your behavior.

Sleepwalk wrote:You seem to be filled with a lot of anger.

Sleepwalk wrote:Even if your arguments were rational and well-informed, you're not going to pursuade anybody with the tone you're using.

Sleepwalk wrote:In your defense though, you seem to be more interested in hurting people for pleasure than irenic and substantive discussion.