I've been charged with a project so my net time as been very very limited these past three weeks yet given that I feel compelled to respond to your post Stoner, it's important to understand that I am a middle of the road person on most everything political with few exceptions. Right vs wrong is something I find very important when it comes to certain issues. Take this CIA stuff for instance of which there are many opinions, especially in regard to the torture stuff.
Speaking of your " PAYING ATTENTION " comment that's a knife that cuts both ways and is most often at the control of those in the Media. Take this tid bit for example:http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0429/p99s01-duts.htm
A quote from above:
The Bush administration strongly opposed lawsuits brought by former detainees, saying they reveal state secrets such as interrogation methods or government involvement with subcontractors. In February, the Obama administration supported that view, reported ABC News.
What do you make of that Stoner?
Were you aware of this ruling? Was it widely reported on TV or in PRINT?
But on Tuesday, San Francisco's Ninth US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled unanimously, in a 3-0 decision, against their argument, reports the Chronicle.
The court said the nation's laws apply to all its programs, including those that involve state secrets.
"According to the government's theory, the judiciary should effectively cordon off all secret government actions from judicial scrutiny, immunizing the CIA and its partners from the demands and limits of the law," Judge Michael Hawkins said in the 3-0 ruling.
Allowing the government to shield its conduct from court review simply because classified information is involved "would ... perversely encourage the president to classify politically embarrassing information simply to place it beyond the reach of judicial process[/color
This stuff is highly controlled by the media, allowing some info to become knowledge while censoring others.
Take Cheney for example: In reality he's simply trying, or doing the GOP's bidding in an attempt to get out front of the sh*t storm headed there way like soon to be released gitmo photos, lawsuits, investigations ETC. Surely this is just my opinion but one echoed by many a hellava lot smarter than I'll ever be.
I wonder where Bush has been hiding while all of this unfolds?
Here is all you really need to know of how it will all play out, the Government will never allow it:
[color=#FF4000]However, the Associated Press (AP) reports that the Court did agree that classified information needed to be protected, but objected to the position that such a concern necessitated automatically throwing out the case.
In what is sure to be a painstaking process, the Court advised judges to weigh the national security value of each individual piece of evidence before deciding on its admissibility, reports The New York Times.
The court said the government could ask judges to conduct a case-by-case review of whether the disclosure of specific documents would jeopardize national security. But allowing the executive branch to shut down an entire lawsuit whenever an official says its subject is classified would be a "concentration of unchecked power" and lead to abuses, it said.
Judge Hawkins said that if it turns out "privileged evidence is indispensable to either party," then the case may eventually be dismissed, reports the AP. The news service also reports that the Justice Department is "reviewing the court's decision."
According to the Chronicle, the government has several options at its disposal now. It can appeal to a larger panel of the Ninth Circuit Court or take the case to the Supreme Court. If it is defeated in both those venues, the case goes back to US District Judge James Ware in San Jose. He dismissed the case in the first place in February 2008.
Business as usual, only the picture is a tad bit clearer, a bit more in plain sight!Cole