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Postby at1with0 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 7:28 am

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142 ... 86264.html


A U.S. soldier walked off his base in Afghanistan and opened fire on local villagers Sunday, Afghan and U.S. officials said, killing 16 people in a shooting spree that further complicates American efforts to end its longest foreign war.
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The soldier, who allegedly gunned down his victims—most of them women and children—about a mile from the U.S. base in the Panjway district of Kandahar province, surrendered and is now in U.S. custody. His identity hasn't been disclosed.

"When the Americans are killing civilians intentionally, this is called terror and it is an unforgivable act," Afghan President Hamid Karzai said. President Barack Obama called the Afghan leader to express his "shock and sadness" and to make clear Washington's commitment to "hold fully accountable anyone responsible."
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 11:50 am

Why did he do it? We are asking these guys to take too many tours of duty, we are expecting too much from them.
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Postby ricardo » Mon Mar 12, 2012 8:22 pm

greeney2 wrote:Why did he do it? We are asking these guys to take too many tours of duty, we are expecting too much from them.


good point g2 . I'd like to add how confusing it must be to even trained soldiers
to comprehend a mission against the backdrop of an culture whom kills on
behalf of their holy book. the adversary/ enemy lives among his family and dresses like the civilian. literally , there are no safe areas. no formations and few fixed fortifications... training counterparts is equally difficult. will two years make an differance ? I think we need to go up stream and find the source. combat fatigue or payback ? ( tragic for the innocent
victims of this bizzaro behavior.)

word via news feeds...the soldier is said to have an prior traumatic brain injury.
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Mar 12, 2012 9:50 pm

He had some sort of head injury from a vehicle accident, non-combat related. This is also his 3rd or 4th tour of duty.
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Postby at1with0 » Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:26 am

Why did he do it? Interesting question.

I wonder why it isn't asked why Jeffrey Dahmer killed.

Saying he served 4 tours is also interesting.

Maybe Dahmer had a bad childhood. Is that or four tours really relevant?

You're not exactly praising the Afghanistan mass murderer but you're not exactly condemning him either.
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:29 pm

As usual this story is full of holes big enough to drive Freight-Liners thru.

The Vet's say he must have been in two places at one time, some 2 miles or so apart that is.

Sixteen Dead, Nameless “Lone Gunman,” We Have Heard It All Before


by Gordon Duff, Senior Editor



The village is Balandi, outside Kandahar in Afghanistan. Thus far the dead are 16, shot in their homes, not just said to be “women and children” but actually infants murdered in their mother’s arms and set afire.

The US claims the perpetrator to be an unnamed “Army Staff Sergeant who has turned himself in.” There are inconsistencies.


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According to live accounts and eye witnesses multiple weapon sounds were heard, including pistols and machine gun bursts simultaneously. The houses attacked are at least 2 miles apart and it becomes literally impossible for a single gunman to kill and burn people in one house and then run few kilometers to do the same thing again twice.By Tabish Qayyum – Editor Fortress Magazine


Late Monday update from ABC news: As VT predicted the ‘lone gunman’ story is being flushed out with with ‘past history’ material of brain injury and marital problem rising quickly to the surface.

But no word yet as to how someone could exit an important base like this not noticed by American base security, but as has been reported, noticed by Afghan forces who contacted their NATO counterparts, but did not send a warning to the village.

Left out of today’s ABC news is anything about how a jerrycan of gasoline could have been carried the mile to the village (and why) or a response to the Reuters report of witnesses describing multiple attackers.

ABC has the details of the ‘lone gunman’ having night vision goggles…apparently reporting only what they are being told, which obviously would fit the initial story…but no information about anything that does not fit


An official told ABC News that the soldier has suffered a mild traumatic brain injury (TBI) in the past, either from hitting his head on the hatch of a vehicle or in a car accident. He went through the advanced TBI treatment at Fort Lewis and was deemed to be fine.

He also underwent mental health screening necessary to become a sniper and passed in 2008. He had routine behavioral health screening after that and was cleared, the official said


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Below reported by Reuters...
Afghan officials also gave varying accounts of the number of shooters involved. Karzai’s office released a statement quoting a villager as saying “American soldiers woke my family up and shot them in the face.”

“They (Americans) poured chemicals over their dead bodies and burned them,” Samad told Reuters at the scene.

Neighbors said they had awoken to crackling gunfire from American soldiers, who they described as laughing and drunk.

“They were all drunk and shooting all over the place,” said neighbor Agha Lala, who visited one of the homes where killings took place.

“Their (the victims’) bodies were riddled with bullets.”



Well Damn page just went dark......will credit once able to access.

Just updated their page....try the following...as for the credit..once I can find it all do so accordingly.
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Postby at1with0 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:39 pm

So there might have been more than one shooter?
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:49 pm

at1with0 wrote:So there might have been more than one shooter?


There usually is when things of this nature take place.. only it's something those yanking your chain try real hard to protect.............only todays technology has become a giant thorn in their sides. Hard to hide, harder to cover up...

Think about the latest events.. FT Hood, Norway....did you know that the dude in Norway killed most all of his victims via headshots..

Hell imagine him on a Battlefield..FT Hood ....same thing conflicting reports...always conflicting reports until the PTB circle the wagons are start passing out walking papers. ;) ;)

MR Laughner acted alone............but how alone? Still would like to know where and how he obtained all that gear..


Good question u asked in regard to the number of tours as it relates to what the hell really happened. :thumbup:

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Postby at1with0 » Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:55 pm

He apparently passed mental health screenings in the past which draws those processes into question...
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Postby ricardo » Thu Mar 15, 2012 6:34 pm

at1with0 wrote:He apparently passed mental health screenings in the past which draws those processes into question...



what ? you have to pass a normalcy test , to experience the dehumanized

act ... barbarity of killing another human being ? ( HFUIT) did everyone get that.?

I think at1w/zero our society is in question, not an killing litmus test.

( we do condem the act.) fosho]


some food for thought. he was attached to an c.i.a. contingent

this behavior appears to me,an deliberate action designed to

the enemy, to draw them out. I hope his lawyer was intelligent enough to

run an extensive drug screen on his new client . this reeks of an extension of

mkultra - monarch -artichoke...
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