at1with0 wrote:I never said you could choose to have faith. I said only that it is possible to decide to not have faith.
Interesting. Ok let's explore this another level deeper.
Let's presume that God, through the use of the Holy Spirit, reveals to you in your heart that He exists. Your heart is now regenerate, and soon, your mind is also completely convinced.
Then later, something bad happens and you don't understand, as a faithful believer, how it could happen to you.
Do you think you could force yourself to stop having faith and belief?
Put in metaphor. You go through life always believing that black people are hateful and untrustworthy. Then you meet a black person, and you become close friends. The black person shows you love, genuine concern, integrity, and generosity. Then after some time, the two of you split apart and never see each other again. The next black person you meet is mean and insults you.
Is it even possible for you then to convince yourself again that all black people are hateful and untrustworthy?
The point is, once you have saving faith and belief, it can't be taken away. It's a powerful, truly "born again" experience. It is as real of an experience as anything else you can think of. It's unforgettable. Now, that's not to say you won't get angry with God now and again, but, you're not going to just up and drop the faith and belief. Ever. When it comes to true, touched by the Holy Spirit, born-again, saving faith and belief... there is no flip-flopping. I can assure you of that. (and that is my personal view and there will be some here who would disagree)
Your going back and forth as you've described, to me sounds like someone basically saying, "I think this," and then saying "I think that." From experience I can tell you that when you have true, saving faith and belief, it instead becomes, "I know." And once you know, that can't be reversed by any personal decision. You can't just decide not to know anymore. Maybe that makes more sense than all the rest of my rant.