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Postby zoltan2 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 9:23 am

It all pure and creative entertainment.
The Madonna show was brilliant . It was a resume of her Hits songs with a twist of Cleopatra a la Liz Taylor entering Rome with Sumerian and all kinds of esoteric symbols from the past history of planet earth.
The eye and the pyramid is right on your American dollar without counting other esoteric symbols. Are you going to burn your money because it a as symbol of the Illuminati.
To get a show going like this for 12 minutes in that proportion can only be stated as GENIUS.
Madona's talent is remarkable so as the hundreds that took part to make that production.
Its a bloody show pure and simple.
I saw a few of her shows and saw her films and although controversy at time she is talented brilliant and has a good heart.
She is an amazing women who built her empire on her own.
To bad for some of you see the devil everywhere when he does not exist.
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Postby capricorn » Thu Feb 09, 2012 6:45 pm

Even so; you cannot deny the use of satanic symbolism and ritualism. It was all there. And whether you believe in the devil or not is irrelevant.

zoltan2 wrote:Its a bloody show pure and simple.

Madonna would disagree, as proven by here own statement:

“The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful.”

A sermon huh? So in Madonna's point of view, she was delivering a spiritual message; not simply a bloody show....
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:01 pm

One thing is for sure, MIA flipping off the camera was not very well taken by the networks, and she may have legal problems as a result. This time, unlike Janet Jackson, there were specific behavior requirments, and that crossed the line into possible breach of contract, by the NFL.
She isn;t talking and the NFL isn't happy about it. The Jackson fine of $550,000 was overturned becasue of how they issued the fine. This time a contract was signed, that guarenteed nothing like this would occur, and they reported Madonna was furious with her for it. Maybe not, maybe they were into it togather, who knows. Madonna gave her assurance nothing like this was going to happen.

To me what is amazing about these halftime shows is the set up and teardown, the soundness of the structure holding so many people and being set up so fast. On top of that is complicated electronics, lighting, pyrotechnics, all do so fast is amazing. Then to dissasemble it and be ready for the 2nd half, field completly undamaged and clear is quite a feat.
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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:37 am

capricorn wrote:Even so; you cannot deny the use of satanic symbolism and ritualism. It was all there. And whether you believe in the devil or not is irrelevant.

zoltan2 wrote:Its a bloody show pure and simple.

Madonna would disagree, as proven by here own statement:

“The Superbowl is kind of like the Holy of Holies in America. I’ll come at halfway of the “church experience” and I’m gonna have to deliver a sermon. It’ll have to be very impactful.”

A sermon huh? So in Madonna's point of view, she was delivering a spiritual message; not simply a bloody show....


Its all part of the show.
The Symbols are part of the Earth historical civilizations and earth religions. For Example on Sumerian seals cylinder seals and elsewhere, stylized horns are a standard emblem of deity; in some cases the number of horns indicates the rank of the deity. Our traditional image of the horned, winged demon comes from the Sumerian Mythology of Zu and focuses on the two brother-gods, Enki, who seems to have sympathy for the humans, and Enlil, who is a strict adherent to Anu's orders. According to Zacharia Sitchen these were two Aliens extraterrestrials who landed on earth. These two with 600 Ets bioengineering man between their dna and the hominid that was already here on earth in order to create a slave race.

Check out Symerians artifacts at
http://xfacts.com/ancient/

The same symbols are in London Cairo and museums around the world.

You will see where Madonna as borrowed some stuff and that form The Egyptians Romans and Greeks
Now for Baphomet its pure imagination

From Wiki we find out that
Baphomet (English pronunciation: /ˈbæfɵmɛt/, from medieval Latin Baphometh, baffometi, Occitan Bafometz) is an imagined pagan deity (i.e., a product of Christian folklore concerning pagans), revived in the 19th century as a figure of occultism and Satanism.

Often mistaken for Satan, it represents the duality of male and female, as well as Heaven and Hell or night and day signified by the raising of one arm and the downward gesture of the other. It can be taken in fact, to represent any of the major harmonious dichotomies of the cosmos.

Baphomet is a name of unestablished origin. It first appeared in trial transcripts during the inquisition of the Knights Templar in the early 1300s. Some modern scholars believe the name to have been an Old French corruption and misspelling of the name Mahomet (Muhammad). [1] Nowadays it is generally viewed as a symbol of the Devil.

The name first came into popular English-speaking consciousness in the 19th century, with debate and speculation on the reasons for the suppression of the Templars.[2] Since 1855, the name Baphomet has been associated with a "Sabbatic Goat" image drawn by Eliphas Lévi.

Its pure man made invention. I can start drawing a picture of my two lovebirds and worship them as gods and perhaps in Du time create a religion about their divinities. Does that make it real.

Satan (Hebrew: הַשָּׂטָן ha-Satan), "the opposer", is the title of various entities, both human and divine, who challenge the faith of humans in the Hebrew Bible. It is an noun from a verb and not a pronoun or name of a person.
Christianity change that noun into pronoun or into a personal name, "Satan" changed from meaning an accuser to a personal name which is false.

Job and Zechariah is translated by the Greek word diabolos meaning (slanderer), the same word in the Greek New Testament from which the English word was badly translated as the devil by the Christians.
There is no Satan nor devils but opposers and slanderers which makes a big difference.
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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:39 am

greeney2 wrote:One thing is for sure, MIA flipping off the camera was not very well taken by the networks, and she may have legal problems as a result. This time, unlike Janet Jackson, there were specific behavior requirments, and that crossed the line into possible breach of contract, by the NFL.
She isn;t talking and the NFL isn't happy about it. The Jackson fine of $550,000 was overturned becasue of how they issued the fine. This time a contract was signed, that guarenteed nothing like this would occur, and they reported Madonna was furious with her for it. Maybe not, maybe they were into it togather, who knows. Madonna gave her assurance nothing like this was going to happen.

To me what is amazing about these halftime shows is the set up and teardown, the soundness of the structure holding so many people and being set up so fast. On top of that is complicated electronics, lighting, pyrotechnics, all do so fast is amazing. Then to dissasemble it and be ready for the 2nd half, field completly undamaged and clear is quite a feat.


I agree
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Postby zoltan2 » Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:55 am

With the Horns on her head the message and symbol is pure and simple the Goddess of Entertainment like the use to called Michael Jackson the King of pop. Both are not Gods or Kings just humans with a lot of talent making the entertainment world work.

I can wait to see what Lady Gaga is going to come out with to match Madonna show or boast a show into new heights.
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Postby capricorn » Fri Feb 10, 2012 12:05 pm

I'm sure it will be something along the lines of swearing to lucifer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNpCxP3G ... re=related
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Postby capricorn » Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:47 pm

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Postby zoltan2 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 9:56 am

Lucifer is a Latin word (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer"

Used in that language as a name for the dawn appearance of the planet Venus, heralding daylight.
In today's language would mean "Day Star" or "Morning Star" or "The Star of the East" .

The word "Lucifer" in Isaiah 14:12 presents a minor problem to mainstream Christianity.
"Lucifer makes his appearance in the fourteenth chapter of the Old Testament book of Isaiah, at the twelfth verse, and nowhere else: "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

The first problem is that Lucifer is a Latin name. So how did it find its way into a Hebrew manuscript, written before there was a Roman language?

In the original Hebrew text, the fourteenth chapter of Isaiah is not about a fallen angel, but about a fallen Babylonian king, who during his lifetime had persecuted the children of Israel. It contains no mention of Satan, either by name or reference.

Hebrew scholars could only speculate that some early Christian scribes, writing in the Latin tongue used by the Church, had decided for themselves that they wanted the story to be about a fallen angel, a creature not even mentioned in the original Hebrew text, and to whom they gave the name "Lucifer."

So why Lucifer? In Roman astronomy, Lucifer was the name given to the morning star (the star we now know by another Roman name, Venus). The morning star appears in the heavens just before dawn, heralding the rising sun. The name derives from the Latin term lucem ferre, bringer, or bearer, of light." In the Hebrew text the expression used to describe the Babylonian king before his death is Helal, son of Shahar, which can best be translated as "Day star, son of the Dawn." The name evokes the golden glitter of a proud king's dress and court (much as his personal splendor earned for King Louis XIV of France the appellation, "The Sun King").

The scholars authorized by ... King James I to translate the Bible into current English did not use the original Hebrew texts, but used versions translated ... largely by St. Jerome in the fourth century.

Jerome had mistranslated the Hebraic metaphor, "Day star, son of the Dawn," as "Lucifer," and over the centuries a metamorphosis took place. Lucifer the morning star became a disobedient angel, cast out of heaven to rule eternally in hell. Theologians, writers, and poets interwove the myth with the doctrine of the Fall, and in Christian tradition Lucifer is now the same as Satan, the Devil, and --- ironically --- the Prince of Darkness.

So "Lucifer" is nothing more than an ancient Latin name for the morning star, the bringer of light. That can be confusing for Christians who identify Christ himself as the morning star, a term used as a central theme in many Christian sermons. Jesus refers to himself as the morning star in Revelation 22:16: "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

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How does the confusion in translating this verse arise? The Hebrew of this passage reads: "heleyl, ben shachar" which can be literally translated "shining one, son of dawn." This phrase means, again literally, the planet Venus when it appears as a morning star. In the Septuagint, a 3rd century BC translation of the Hebrew scriptures into Greek, it is translated as "heosphoros" which also means Venus as a morning star.


Lucifer wasn't equated with Satan until after Jerome. Jerome wasn't in error. Later Christians were in equating "Lucifer" with "Satan".



The irony for those who believe that "Lucifer" refers to Satan is that the same title ('morning star' or 'light-bearer') is used to refer to Jesus, in 2 Peter 1:19, where the Greek text has exactly the same term: 'phos-phoros' 'light-bearer.' This is also the term used for Jesus in Revelation 22:16.


The actual name, "Lucifer," goes back to the Greeks, before the Romans. Socrates and Plato talk about this "god of light"; surprisingly, not in the context of Eos (god of Dawn), but -- as a morning star -- juxtaposed with the sun (Helios) and Hermes.

There is no Lucifer but the morning star or Venus as a name or light bringer as a meaning
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Postby capricorn » Sat Feb 11, 2012 8:01 pm

There are several words that come from latin that have completely changed in definition:
Nice - This comes from the Latin ‘not to know’. Originally a ‘nice person’ was someone who was ignorant or unaware.
Awful - This meant ‘full of awe’ i.e. something wonderful, delightful, amazing. However, over time it has evolved to mean exactly the opposite.
Manufacture - From the Latin meaning ‘to make by hand’ this originally signified things that were created by craftsmen. Now the opposite, made by machines, is its meaning.
Counterfeit - This once meant a perfect copy. Now it means anything but.
There are plenty more...

The sigil of lucifer (or "sign of satan") is used by satanists. So while the term Lucifer was used to denote the morning star prior to the 3rd century BC; for almost 2000 years it has been used in direct reference to Satan. What is more important is that in today's context; when people worship Lucifer; they are not worshiping the morning star or the planet venus or a light-bearer. They are worshiping Satan (or the Devil.)
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