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Postby qmark » Thu May 27, 2010 7:28 am

frrostedman wrote:I love it. The uber-left progressives are looking this gift horse in the mouth! They don't know a perfect President when they see one? Maybe--so very ironically--the progressive left will be instrumental in the ousting of this President and dismantling of his Progressive, Socialist agenda.

If that happens, we can all rejoice and agree at last. "There IS a God."

God does so love irony, don't He? 8-)


Personally, I believe this to be a calculated strategy. It may backfire, but I doubt it.
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Postby qmark » Thu May 27, 2010 7:34 am

greeney2 wrote:Buy as many as you like, and read it as many times as you want to, I find most people who preach about their Constitution, really only want to pick and choose the parts that fit their adgendas. They stand on parts of it and will fight to the death about some parts, but other parts they pay no attention to and could care less about, if it doesn't support their priorieties.
They demand rights, at the expense of the rights of others by conflicting parts of the same Constitution. We only know some of the Constitution, but really do not know most of it. Most people have actually never read about how and why we have the Electorial College system, and do not even understand why we have it.


You're absolutely right about that. Most people don't want to acknowledge the Constitution gives us "freedom of religion", they want to believe "freedom from religion".

If I remember correctly, the Electorial College was instituted because they felt the American people were to stupid to elect the appropriate leaders. They were sooooooo right!
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Postby frrostedman » Thu May 27, 2010 6:52 pm

Nesaie wrote:Tom, Tom, Tom...are you calling me a "uber-left progressive"? Please, ignorance like that only make you look bad and get zits. If that isn't what you're calling me, then I apologize.

No apology needed, but my post immediately followed aquarians. I would have used the quotes if I was quoting anyone else. I'm awe struck by the irony in that Aquarian is against Obama. Aquarian doesn't get that O'bama is the one chance in the next 50+ years that Socialists have to dismantle the free market and establish European style government.
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Postby Nesaie » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:33 pm

frrostedman wrote:
Nesaie wrote:Tom, Tom, Tom...are you calling me a "uber-left progressive"? Please, ignorance like that only make you look bad and get zits. If that isn't what you're calling me, then I apologize.

No apology needed, but my post immediately followed aquarians. I would have used the quotes if I was quoting anyone else. I'm awe struck by the irony in that Aquarian is against Obama. Aquarian doesn't get that O'bama is the one chance in the next 50+ years that Socialists have to dismantle the free market and establish European style government.


Dude, go back and read his old posts. If I remember correctly, he supported Nader. Even when Obummer was (s)elelcted he was against him. I think I was trying to get him to vote for the Green candidate, but he has never liked obummer. That one I do know.

Besides, Aquarian is anti-war, obummer is pro-war, just like bush and his daddy.

Wouldn't that be funny if an illegitimate "president" like obummer could unite the far "left" and the far "right"? :lol: :D What if we as Americans could agree on the actual problems and stop blaming one another??? ;)
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Postby Nesaie » Mon Jun 07, 2010 4:41 pm

greeney2 wrote:Buy as many as you like, and read it as many times as you want to, I find most people who preach about their Constitution, really only want to pick and choose the parts that fit their adgendas. They stand on parts of it and will fight to the death about some parts, but other parts they pay no attention to and could care less about, if it doesn't support their priorieties.
They demand rights, at the expense of the rights of others by conflicting parts of the same Constitution. We only know some of the Constitution, but really do not know most of it. Most people have actually never read about how and why we have the Electorial College system, and do not even understand why we have it.


I do demand rights, like the rights that are inalienable rights that I am guaranteed...freedom of speech, press, bare arms, against illegal search/seizure, etc.

Just because some have tried to blur the lines of God given rights and welfare doesn't mean it's correct.

I do need to buy more Constitutions. I've gotten into some great conversations, even drunk, with people about the Constitution. And, nobody has ever refused a free Constitution. In fact, they smile as I give them one. You should try it, it's fun. :D

That reminds me...I've got to go order more. :D
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Postby Sparty » Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:18 am

Nesaie wrote:
bare arms, , etc.



I know I'm a jerk...but this made me laugh. I don't think the Constitution guarantees our right to wear short sleeved shirts! ;)

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Postby greeney2 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:26 am

If I remember correctly, the Electorial College was instituted because they felt the American people were to stupid to elect the appropriate leaders. They were sooooooo right!


Most people are not even aware that the Electorial College is part of our Constitution, let alone understand why it is used.
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Postby Aquarian » Tue Jun 08, 2010 9:34 am

The Electoral College should be abolished. It is more democratic to have a direct voting process.
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Postby greeney2 » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:12 am

How would you have a system of protecting the voice of the small states, if it was abolished. The states with larger populations would control the elections. New York and California alone could control the elections.
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Postby Aquarian » Tue Jun 08, 2010 10:42 am

Either way, the national directly democratic voting process would reflect the national popular will of the people. It would also be a step in the right direction in providing an opportunity for third parties to emerge in a more fair setting. Right now, the Electoral College is always faithful to the two-party system. Big and small states have an equal opportunity to fight for their candidates on equal ground- each individual vote would count for what it is- an individual vote.
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