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Postby Jaack » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:51 pm

Dear Reader and his spend easy plans are killing the USA. Sure many of you lame leftists will think well good it's about time etc... No so fast there slick, you seem to forget what has given you the life and the opportunity to bitch about life as much as all you psychopaths complain.

Soon China will no longer support the dollar, then the world will change and we are screwed, all for some lame brained social programs and leftist ideology.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comm ... ystem.html
A 'Copper Standard' for the world's currency system?

Hard money enthusiasts have long watched for signs that China is switching its foreign reserves from US Treasury bonds into gold bullion. They may have been eyeing the wrong metal.


By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard
Last Updated: 2:41PM BST 16 Apr 2009

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China's State Reserves Bureau (SRB) has instead been buying copper and other industrial metals over recent months on a scale that appears to go beyond the usual rebuilding of stocks for commercial reasons.

Nobu Su, head of Taiwan's TMT group, which ships commodities to China, said Beijing is trying to extricate itself from dollar dependency as fast as it can.

"China has woken up. The West is a black hole with all this money being printed. The Chinese are buying raw materials because it is a much better way to use their $1.9 trillion of reserves. They get ten times the impact, and can cover their infrastructure for 50 years."

"The next industrial revolution is going to be led by hybrid cars, and that needs copper. You can see the subtle way that China is moving into 30 or 40 countries with resources," he said.

The SRB has also been accumulating aluminium, zinc, nickel, and rarer metals such as titanium, indium (thin-film technology), rhodium (catalytic converters) and praseodymium (glass).

While it makes sense for China to take advantage of last year's commodity crash to restock cheaply, there is clearly more behind the move. "They are definitely buying metals to diversify out of US Treasuries and dollar holdings," said Jim Lennon, head of commodities at Macquarie Bank.

John Reade, metals chief at UBS, said Beijing may have a made strategic decision to stockpile metal as an alternative to foreign bonds. "We're very surprised by Chinese demand. They are buying much more copper than they will need this year. If this is strategic, there may be no effective limit on the purchases as China's pockets are deep."

Zhou Xiaochuan, the central bank governor, piqued the interest of metal buffs last month by calling for a world currency modelled on the "Bancor", floated by John Maynard Keynes at Bretton Woods in 1944.

The Bancor was to be anchored on 30 commodities - a broader base than the Gold Standard, which had caused so much grief in the 1930s. Mr Zhou said such a currency would prevent the sort of "credit-based" excess that has brought the global finance to its knees.

If his thoughts reflect Communist Party thinking, it would explain the bizarre moves in commodity markets over recent weeks. Copper prices have surged 49pc this year to $4,925 a tonne despite estimates by the CRU copper group that world demand will fall 15pc to 20pc this year as construction wilts.

Analysts say "short covering" by funds betting on price falls has played a role. But the jump is largely due to Chinese imports, which reached a record 329,000 tonnes in February, and a further 375,000 tonnes in March. Chinese industrial demand cannot explain this. China has been badly hit by global recession. Its exports - almost half GDP - fell 17pc in March.

While Beijing's fiscal stimulus package and credit expansion has helped lift demand, China faces a property downturn of its own. One government adviser warned this week that house prices could fall 50pc.

One thing is clear: Beijing suspects that the US Federal Reserve is engineering a covert default on America's debt by printing money. Premier Wen Jiabao issued a blunt warning last month that China was tiring of US bonds. "We have lent a huge amount of money to the US, so of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets," he said.

This is slightly disingenuous. China has the world's largest reserves - $1.95 trillion, mostly in dollars - because it has been holding down the yuan to boost exports. This mercantilist strategy has reached its limits.

The beauty of recycling China's surplus into metals instead of US bonds is that it kills so many birds with one stone: it stops the yuan rising, without provoking complaints of currency manipulation by Washington; metals are easily stored in warehouses, unlike oil; the holdings are likely to rise in value over time since the earth's crust is gradually depleting its accessible ores. Above all, such a policy safeguards China's industrial revolution, while the West may one day face a supply crisis.

Beijing may yet buy gold as well, although it has not done so yet. The gold share of reserves has fallen to 1pc, far below the historic norm in Asia. But if a metal-based currency ever emerges to end the reign of fiat paper, it is just as likely to be a "Copper Standard" as a "Gold Standard".
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Postby Nesaie » Thu Apr 16, 2009 8:05 pm

This is Obama's fault how?

Apparently you're not very familiar with the recent bailouts and the cause of them. And no, the answer isn't Bush jr.

Screw China, we don't need them. Anything can be used as currency. It is just a matter of getting enough people to agree on the currency.

Unfortunately, thanks to this being a fascist country, a corporation known as the federal reserve has created legislation through their puppets in DC that is anti-capitalism. Once we get ride of the fascist corporations like the federal reserve, we can actually impliment capitalism. Capitalism works, it always has, always will. Fascists come and go, unfortunately it usually requires bloodshed.
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Postby Dark-Samus » Fri Apr 17, 2009 1:57 am

If all leaders killed their country, we wouldn´t need any of the current problems now would we :roll: :twisted:
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Postby Jaack » Fri Apr 17, 2009 11:05 am

Nesaie wrote:This is Obama's fault how?

Apparently you're not very familiar with the recent bailouts and the cause of them. And no, the answer isn't Bush jr.

Screw China, we don't need them. Anything can be used as currency. It is just a matter of getting enough people to agree on the currency.

Unfortunately, thanks to this being a fascist country, a corporation known as the federal reserve has created legislation through their puppets in DC that is anti-capitalism. Once we get ride of the fascist corporations like the federal reserve, we can actually impliment capitalism. Capitalism works, it always has, always will. Fascists come and go, unfortunately it usually requires bloodshed.


$10 trillion in additional deficit spending.

Hermes the elf tax Cheat geitner saying it's ok that the world wants to go off the dollar standard.
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Postby Rob72 » Fri Apr 17, 2009 2:05 pm

Can't kill what's already dead.
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Postby _Billy_ » Sun Apr 19, 2009 8:25 am

Jackoff, where do you come up with all this bullshit?
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Postby Jaack » Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:31 pm

_Billy_ wrote:Jackoff, where do you come up with all this bullshit?


Too bad you're so mislead as to think it's bullshit.
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Postby Tairaa » Sun Apr 19, 2009 10:13 pm

Obama made the Chinese buy a large stockpile of metals which is presumably being used to change the basis of their currency.

That sounds... Pretty much like bullshit to me Jaack.


Err, perhaps bullshit isn't the best word.. How about inconsistent of facts? Maybe I just don't have the facts, so tell me Jaack, how exactly did Obama make the Chinese buy the metal. And how exactly are you sure that they are buying it to start a "copper standard"?
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Postby Jaack » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:00 pm

Tairaa wrote:Obama made the Chinese buy a large stockpile of metals which is presumably being used to change the basis of their currency.

That sounds... Pretty much like bullshit to me Jaack.


Err, perhaps bullshit isn't the best word.. How about inconsistent of facts? Maybe I just don't have the facts, so tell me Jaack, how exactly did Obama make the Chinese buy the metal. And how exactly are you sure that they are buying it to start a "copper standard"?


The little you know is always overshadowed by the whole lot you don't know.

Dear Reader's policies are and have alarmed China and the Soviets so much that they want there to be a new reserve currency for the world.

Now since you're so smart and knowledgeable and this is not school you figure out all the implications.

Good luck.
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Postby Tairaa » Sun Apr 19, 2009 11:13 pm

Whole lot of opinion...
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