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Postby gudskepteacal » Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:11 pm

(...walks away..hands in air..shoulders shrugging..head shaking..mumbling confusedly to self...)



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Postby bionic » Sat Sep 19, 2009 8:34 am

Unless, of course, you choose to live outside of their laws


There was a time when 'living off the grid' was fairly easy.
People still do it, but it's getting harder and harder to do these days, it seems.
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Postby gudskepteacal » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:45 am

A peek at what the big boys are planning behind the scenes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wH5YqsuZiw

Don't think Morris would say that if there was a chance that someone could dispute it. More info link on the page has more on the subject.

bionic wrote:Stealthy, secret totalitarianism.


Funny you should mention that because this article has that very thing in it...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven3.htm

It's part 4 of the series and your post is confirmed in the 5'th paragraph which, in part, says...

"House had anonymously published a book entitled Philip Dru: Administator, a blueprint for the adoption of totalitarian socialism in America thinly disguised as fiction."

The whole article is a very good read.
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Postby gudskepteacal » Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:02 pm

Hey everybody; I'm baaaaaccckk!! Until my last breath if necessary. :| I've already posted this in another section, but, being American, I think the information warrants posting here because it is part of the overall conspiracy that the power elite have been cooking up for decades, maybe centuries. If nobody has noticed, the dollar is taking a beating these days and, while that may be good for big internationals, it doesn't do a thing but make it harder for those of us in the middle here in America. On top of that, it seems there may be secret meetings taking place between oil rich countries in the middle east and China, Russia, Brazil, ;; heck you read it...

http://www.philly.com/philly/business/2 ... llar_.html

Does anybody need to be reminded that oil is 'where the money's at' even in today's here and now...

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2009/07/0 ... rporation/

Notice the dates of the articles. Questions? HELLO!!...
"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling money and its issuance." - James Madison
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Postby tigger » Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:41 am

That you tube link wouldn't work for me, what is it?

Doctards of Ottawa are being paid by the kleptocrat's psy ops adman

to murder Ceausescu's hatemongered pariah for him


The schizophrenic and the shock disorder useless eater burden

they can get a cheap thrill out of torturing and murdering.

viewtopic.php?p=36558#p36558

"The Destruction of American Women"

http://www.unknowncountry.com/diary/?id=44

To be 'given to aliens', in order to resolve John Nash's dilemma of altruism and administer Ceausescu's global Epsilon birth bond sweat shop sewer.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8_82YGXJe0

They put a hit on a female senator, to send the message out, of where to go

for a merciful execution. Stay Away From

Png's Kanaanemi torture Kapital

http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2005/may/05053107.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... rants.html
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/s ... /20061031/

NAU, where Ceausescu's "retarded" Intelligentsia, *started new.*

gudskepteacal wrote:A peek at what the big boys are planning behind the scenes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5wH5YqsuZiw

Don't think Morris would say that if there was a chance that someone could dispute it. More info link on the page has more on the subject.

bionic wrote:Stealthy, secret totalitarianism.


Funny you should mention that because this article has that very thing in it...

http://www.newswithviews.com/Yates/steven3.htm

It's part 4 of the series and your post is confirmed in the 5'th paragraph which, in part, says...

"House had anonymously published a book entitled Philip Dru: Administator, a blueprint for the adoption of totalitarian socialism in America thinly disguised as fiction."

The whole article is a very good read.


And it is not so that the Kleptocrats can enshrine Western Human Rights

or the constitution.

It is Eastern Bloc gangstalking tyranny already - Ceausescu's Securitate in Ottawa.

An horror show for Interpol.


Ceausescu's runaway Intelligentsia's perjuring kidnapper in Sgro, and doctored PhD synonymous retardation contagion,

setting the standard for Ottawa's medical community

because Cameron, and Callaghan are a bit like Ceausescu,

Quick death logos for Vlad the Impaler's special brand of amoral absolute tyranny.


The Western Empire is already defunct, and Png is gangstalking, with

Ceausescu's raping Securitate.

Funding Terrorist camps across America, the kleptocrat's allies in deliberate destruction of

democracy. Hitler's right wing socialist party - had nothing to do with purification. It was the miracle of stealing money from Jews,

eliminating a social safety net's cost, by mass murdering their disabled first. Then moving in for Ceausescu's and Hitler's hate mongered pariah -

Inquisitor's fluffy bunny bores.

That is why Ottawa's doctards are murdering for Ceausescu. It's the miracle of cannibalizing money from their weakest members of society

because they are too cowardly to demand humanity from their corporate slave masters.

Psychic driven tunnel vision "legion of vicious sycophants" The Kleptocrats think its fish in a barrel.

NativeAlien wrote:Purification is the process of rendering something pure, i.e. clean of foreign elements and/or pollution.

Hitler considered the Jews pollution..Jesus the pharisees


http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/11/05/terri.htm
http://sed.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/36/3/157

All that 'stuff' hasn't made them very generous.
Anti depressants aren't marketed to Ceausescu's

*degenerates.*


Hitler's Quickest Death Logos
"He's queer, he's crazy, he put a hit on me, he took his clothes off." Ron Paul, leaving Bruno's hotel room. Reciting a spin doctard's mantra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxbQrl3UX8



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Postby MonarchSmile » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:19 am

Remember, We the People were also fighting a Monopoly of a Crown Corporation for our Independence well over 200 years ago?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_India_Company


http://blog.buzzflash.com/carpenter/516

Our New Age of Betrayal


what Gilded Age President Rutherford B. Hayes confided to his diary, eleven years after leaving office: "This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government by the corporations, of the corporations, and for the corporations."


In the introduction to his magnificent The Age of Betrayal: The Triumph of Money in America, 1865-1900, Jack Beatty notes a CBS News/New York Times poll, from 2004, in which 64 percent of the respondents answered in the affirmative to the first of these choices: "Would you say the government is pretty much run by a few big interests looking out for themselves or that it is run for the benefit of all the people?"

Not very surprising, you say? Hardly even noteworthy? By itself, that would be true; even from an anecdotal approach one can quickly -- and accurately -- surmise that most Americans have little faith in their government's virtuous independence.

But Beatty's purpose wasn't solely to point out that 21st-century America is off to a rocky start, confidencewise. His purpose was, rather, to note the remarkable acceleration of civic America's discontent: when the same question was asked in the 1960s, only about half of the later number were willing to agree that "the government is pretty much run by a few big interests."

Within the same 40-year period -- and need I remind you that this was the era of Reaganism Rising, that prolonged epoch of propagandistic reassurances that a government much closer to the people was finally at hand -- the number of Americans who agreed that "public officials don't care about what people think" also nearly doubled, from 36 to 66 percent.

Moreover, two scholars of Congress, Norman Ornstein and Thomas Mann, were in the early 2000s offering academic evidence to confirm the popular opinion that when it comes to kowtowing to big business, the House of Representatives -- the people's house -- "more closely resembles the House of the 19th century than that of the 20th, of the Gilded Age more than the Cold War era."

What's more, as though more was needed, in 2004 the American Political Science Association issued a report, "American Democracy in an Age of Rising Inequality," which bluntly concluded that "Our government is becoming less democratic, responsive mainly to the privileged and not a powerful instrument to correct disadvantages or to look out for the majority."

All the above comes from Beatty -- who, when not writing political history, acts as a senior editor at the Atlantic Monthly -- like a shotgun blast, packed as it is in less than one full paragraph. In other words, there's more, and Beatty's concentrated explosion is merely meant as a wake-up call, before he plunges into the Gilded Age politics that looked astonishingly similar to today's, or should I say, today's politics which look astonishingly similar to the Gilded Age.

To Beatty's searing critique, I would add this not unique observation: James Madison's theory of pluralistic politics, once promenaded on stilts, now seems to limp along on crutches. You may recall that this founding father had argued that a representative democracy was in fact a feasible system of governance in an expansive republic, even though, as his detractors pointed out, factions and special interests would grow intolerably with the geography. Yes, they would indeed grow, countered Madison; but, over time, he asserted, they would effectively cancel each other out. Hence republicanism, civic virtue, collective wisdom and all that would by and large, and ultimately, reign.

But that argument elided in large part the coming, immense concentrations of capitalist wealth in America, and how immensely powerful those concentrations would emerge in their influence on money- and reelection-hungry Congressmen. In short, "the people" can be well aware of and quite dissatisfied with big money's influence, and Congress, in turn, can be well aware of the people's dissatisfaction -- but, as they say, money talks louder.

And that's why there's such a depressingly familiar feel to every journalistic lede to every legislative story today, such as the NY Times' weekend piece that began, "As the health care debate moves to the floor of Congress, most of the serious proposals to fulfill President Obama’s original vow to curb costs have fallen victim to organized interests."

The following paragraph is just as expectedly familiar: "And now the last two initiatives with real bite that are still in contention" -- I was about to include what those initiatives are, but let's face it, that makes no difference; if they have "bite," they're toast --"are under furious assault."

And again: "Although the bills contain other measures aimed at medical costs, most of the surviving ones do not antagonize any organized interest." They antagonize only "the people," most of whom had re-cranked their faith in "the system" just a few months ago.

I'll repeat my dogged contention that President Obama is not to blame for this unmistakably sorry state of health-care affairs. As a young, incoming president, he needed, above all, a checkmark in the "W" column. That's just the way it is -- a presidential axiom as fundamental as the influence of money in Congressional politics.

But after this pitiable "reform" of health care in America passes Congress (assuming it does), Obama shall -- and should -- find himself liberated, I hope, to start kicking some Capitol Hill butt. However much asterisked, he'll still have his "W," and he might as well use it abrasively, before watching every other reform go down to Congressional graft.

He likely wouldn't succeed, liberally speaking. But does he wish to be remembered as a liberal president who failed because he compromised everything to death upfront, or as a liberal president who largely failed because he tried, against all the odds, to attain his ideals?

Otherwise it's a sure thing: he might as well commend to his diary -- now -- what Gilded Age President Rutherford B. Hayes confided to his diary, eleven years after leaving office: "This is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government by the corporations, of the corporations, and for the corporations."



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Postby tigger » Tue Oct 13, 2009 11:41 am


Cartier was a typo, Ceausescu's "retarded" sewer mongers settled the West.

"He's queer, he's crazy, he put a hit on me, he took his clothes off." Ron Paul, leaving Bruno's hotel room. Reciting a spin doctard's mantra.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXxbQrl3UX8



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Postby gudskepteacal » Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:02 am

tigger wrote:That you tube link wouldn't work for me, what is it?


If you are referring to the last youtube link I posted tigger, then it was a short(2 min.)clip of a Sean Hannity segment where Dick Morris was talking about what Obama and the other G20 members had agreed upon in their meeting in April.

Dang it MS! Would you please stop out-linking me? You're making me look slow and incompetent here... - don't say it ; stepped out in the middle of the road with that one but that's got to be just too easy for you.

Seriously though; that's some good stuff in your last. :)
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Postby MonarchSmile » Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:23 pm

If I can be of further help, please let me know.
I probably have a book about it, or know of one.
:D

PS Gas not oil, is cleaner, conservation is cleaner than both.
Things are heating up and a lot of educated people are worried
all over the world. We need to become better stewards of our
world. She will be kicking a lot of our asses unless we do something
different, soon :!:
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Postby gudskepteacal » Wed Dec 09, 2009 1:01 am

A major hurdle (government controlled healthcare) to the 'fundamental transformation of America' is almost cleared...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php ... hcare-bill

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/ar ... gMPsWbqORw

The last link refers to the recent vote by senators to do away with the amendment that would stop government funding of abortion. If the bill were signed by Obama today, everybody would take part in funding abortions. Since when did healthcare become an unalienable Right? Much less the consent to tax people for non-medical emergency abortions? Make your feelings known if you feel the same way...

http://www.rallycongress.com/the-nation ... ealthcare/

The current healthcare bill will hurt us more than help.

WE MUST STAND NOW AND DEFEAT EFFORTS TO FURTHER ENSLAVE US!!
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