Thank you for your post and brotherly consideration.
I am saying that the Muslims are attempting to attack something which never was Christian from the begining and they do not seem to realiize this. And in like manner ..neither do the Christians for whom the Muslims are attempting their position. This is very very ironic as are many conditions of men under such traditions.
The school boards like in Washington State or wherever it was in "concealed" protest against the boys group singing carols and handing out candy canes...neither group seems aware of the irony. The gnostic intelligent school board or NEA with their decidedly anti Christian position..the secular position...doesnt want any connection to what they think is Christian. LOL LOL LOL...they have deceived even their gnostic/secular conditioning/training. THey are all in confusion..against a placebo..neither position being Christian. How ironic.
Jerimiah 10 speaks of the traditions of the people being in vain that they bring a tree into the house, nail it upright and decorate it with silver and gold. Do we know of a people who would so such an thing today???
Brother, with all due respect. The significance is, if Christ hadn't been born, He wouldn't have been here.
Correct here in this...but His significance is that the tomb is empty. Not his birth. Once again..no such instruction for a Hebrew or Christian to celebrate a birthday of any kind. To do so is often self glorification. Glory is to God every day..all day. Not just on a particular holy day. These customs and traditions are part and parcel of what lost the Hebrews the land by 70 AD.
It is for whom He died...and took on the sins of His people..not his birth.
His birth is totally worth celebrating. As is His resurrection, which some call Easter; I call it "Resurrection Sunday."
We are to remember this every day..all day..continually..not just on one holy day. When we break of the bread and drink of the cup we are to remember Him. Our lives are to be a testement of Him who has purchased us in His Blood. To bear witness of He who lives in us...continually.
And brother, if we only do what we are instructed to do, we would be rightfully described as practitioners of legalism.
We like the Hebrews of olde are not to take on the customs and traditions of this world. We are to separate out from this world and not take on the unclean things of this world. For these things are in fact and often girded about with the very legalism of which you describe as many tend to put their stock in trade in them..as if they were Life itself.....Legalism...also known as a counterfeit.
The birth of the Messiah is, again, an event worth celebrating. Yes, His death on the cross for our sins is more worthy, but, still--it's worth celebrating.
Many Christian holidays were put in place--not because we felt obligated to celebrate a certain thing, but instead to offset and give an alternative to the Pagan holidays that were celebrated. In similar fashion, African Americans observe Kwanza during Christmas. Christmas was instituted to give the family of God an altnernative to the Pagan Winter Solstice celebration - and Christ's birth was the chosen event to celebrate at that time.
The Sun god under various guises ...is killed burried and then resurrected after three days. The Sun god dies on the shortest day of the year...the winter solstice...December 21/22..the shortest days of sunlight of the year. Three days in the grave and the sun god is raised, resurrected/reborn again on the 24/25th of December. This is the pagan/occult pattern...of the sun god/gods.
The family of God needs an alternative to pagan celebrations?? Wow!! Talk about legalism.
And so it is, during CHRIST-mas, we give all the glory to God... to Christ. And, in an effort to emulate God, we give to one another charitably and freely from the heart.
The custom of the times is to give gifts when coming before a king. This is the pattern of operation of the Magi or wise men..to bring gifts when coming before a king. We are not kings.
Charity is not limited to one day...but every day and yes..freely from the heart.
Now, I could have taken you wrong here bro, and forgive me if I did. But it sounded as though you were in opposition to the spirit of this thread because in your view, "Christmas" is not an event worth defending against fanatic Muslim attacks.
I differ with you on that, but I understand and respect your position.
I find it ironic Frostedman..that the Muslims are attempting to attack a position which never was of the Hebrews nor of the Christians from the begining. They are debating a false position and dont even seem aware of it. So too with many of the Christians. They too are not aware of it ..they have been doing it for so long by the customs and traditions of men. Unawares...both of them. Talk about fooling if possible the very elect.
How mighty is the Hand of the Lord..that He could hide a thing so out in the open...even from those who claim His name. And like Lucifer himself..hide it with a passionate burning from within. For they cannot ...not do it.
The time cometh when the Church will be once again openly persecuted and those steeped in the traditions of men will have to go through all these other churches steeped in the traditions of men before they get to the Lord's Church.
I too understand and respect your position ..even in disagreement. It is not worth defending to me. However...the view from Irony is very great in the overall perspective.
Originally and years ago...I gave it up because I tired of the economic treadmill foisted off on so many of us. But in process of time... and after my conversion I came to realize that there was so much more to what was going on annually. It is a perfect counterfeit to those who cannot see right in front of them.
But we are so often and easily attracted to beautiful things are we not? For who was in fact the beatuiful one??
There is no need to defend a false position from the Muslims.
Peace be with you and your house. The Lord Jesus the Christ for remission of sins be with you and your house.