Wow...this isn't the thread I thought it would be.
Maybe somebody should try a do-over in a couple weeks. I see this is fairly fresh.
The original thread, from the old BV had some great links provided by partyghost. Try googling him, you may be able to find him.
There are so many people I wanted to respond to, but wanted to get through the whole thread first. Now...I don't know what to say.
As far as the old BV, I haven't seen any archival information or links. I did see a site a couple years back go down, without a word, and it attracted similar people. That is how I found it, the owner posted here. This is one of the things that makes me go "huh".
Back on topic?
My Mother, in 1959 had a child out of wedlock. She was catholic. So, she went to catholic "services" for "help". They delivered the child, and she gave it up to adoption. Then, from her catholic guilt, she was "diagnosed" with depression, so they gave her electro-shock"therapy". One of the experimental treatments of the time (MKULTRA) left her strapped down to a gurney. Yeah, that's what Jesus would do.
When she was pregnant with me she was on Valium, which is one of the causes of alcoholism (that's my excuse
). I was born an addicted baby, but the doctors that did that to me aren't in prison. That is why I don't take pills, not even the heroin pushing Bayor corporation's aspirin. At least wine is fermented...I hope it still is.
Today, my mother acts like she has alzheimers. It has to be from the drugs. She is brain dead and obese. She takes drugs 4 times a day, and they wonder why she can't think. But, she doesn't want to think. She never wanted to think. She never wanted her intelligence. With intelligence comes responsibility.
Give me the natural stuff, 'shrooms, weed, alcohol, valerian root, etc. and F^)& big-pharma. You are satan's spawn.
Where is that middle finger smilie? I need one now...oh and the one with the pants pulled down around it's arse.