The Black Vault

Wing-Zero wrote:

Tar is tar, and smoke is smoke.

It's common knowledge that when you have heated smoke that goes into your lungs, whether it be from a bong, a joint, or a bubbler, it's going to burn the cilla in your lungs and the moisture inside your lungs is going to turn that into tar. Thats going to cause respitory problems, etc. I know many people who have smoked a lot of weed who wake up every day coughing up a storm, hacking up black s**t, and unable to run as fast as they use to because of the fact they smoked.

I don't personally know any old time stoners. The people I know, it was a high school thing. Do you have any more information about this? Preferably by a non-government source?

As for medical risks, marijuana is less damaging then cigarettes and alcohol, and it's less mentally distorting then alcohol is. But yes, of course it's not healthy. It's not like your body benefits from it's use.

I know several people in that age group that smoke pot daily and they too have all those above listed issues. However one of the things I appreciate about weed is that once you stop you don't need a very prolonged period before those issues go away. I found this both in myself and in others who have quit it who used to smoke it. It's almost as if it just keeps you high in a really minor sense, so it effects everything for 2 or 3 days afterwards just in the littliest degree, and it builds up after a while.

Never experienced it, but I know what you're talking about. Some people get it. I never did.

Thanks for the links Wing-Zero.

Both of those studies come from the same data set based on surveys, given by the government, National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey. People tend to lie on surveys. Surveys can also be written in such a manner as to produce the "right answer". Without knowing the actual questions, I can't say for sure how well done this survey was. Both of those studies also admit that 77% of pot smokers are cigarette smokers. Don't you think that kinda affects the data? We know what cigarettes do.

The government has been trying to demonize pot for years, I'm sure this is another example. They claim that through some magic of math they "controlled" out the 77% of cigarette smokers. I say, they kept them in intentionally to screw up the data and make pot look bad. In the Yale study, the National Cancer Institute was involve. The cancer industry has a need to demonize pot too. Real studies and real life testimonies actually say the opposite. There is likely something in THC that not only helps to cure cancer but also prevent it. But, the NCI can't have that, there is too much money to be had in the cancer industry.

NHANES: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nhanes.htm

Yale Study: http://www.yaledailynews.com/articles/v ... ?badlink=1

If you can find any legitimate research on pot, let me know. I'll warn you, it is very difficult to find legit cancer studies in the US. Unless a big pharma co, or the government is actively involved, it is close to impossible for a school to study marijuana. They can get heroin, crack, coke, etc. easily to study...but pot...no way. The government is scared of us finding out that they're lying about it, IMO.

Oh, and most of the studies the government has conducted, that I've read, are flawed. You can tell the flaws when you read their methodology.

I've read some interesting peer-review articles. It was found to be very likely that Delta-9-Tetrahydracannabinol does infact fight free-radicals in your body and help to slow the growth of preexisting cancer and to prevent new cancer from developing.

They also found that they are utterly unable to give rats cancer with marijuana, despite their best efforts.

Do you have any links to those studies SRO? I'd be interested.

I had them in document form, not link form. And alas I haven't held onto them, but I bet I could come across them again. However at the moment I've an abligation. But I'll look for them afterwards.

Alas I've given it a try and I cannot seem to find said articles.

Should I happen across them in the future I'll send them along to you.