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Postby greeney2 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:40 pm

At this point there is no international arrest warrents so that makes it a moot point. He has exhaused all legal avenues up to the UK Supreme Court, and failed in a appeal of that ruling, so he is in no position to negotiate terms. By walking into the embassy, he has violated his bail, I am not sure if the UK has formally revoked his bail, however they said if he steps out of the embassy, he will be arrested.

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange Monday called for diplomatic guarantees he will not be pursued by the United States for publishing secret documents if he goes to Sweden to face criminal allegations.

The Australian, 40, said he is prepared to go to Sweden to face questioning over sex assault claims, but fears Stockholm will turn him over to the US where he could face espionage and conspiracy charges over revelations by WikiLeaks.

"Ultimately it may be a matter of what guarantees the United Kingdom, the United States and Sweden are willing to provide," he told the Sydney Morning Herald from the Ecuador embassy in London, where he is seeking asylum.

Assange believes Washington will pursue him after WikiLeaks published a cache of sensitive documents, including about the Afghan and Iraq wars, and thousands of diplomatic cables which have embarrassed governments worldwide.

"For example, if the US were to guarantee (it would) drop the grand jury investigation and any further investigation of WikiLeaks publishing activity, that would be an important guarantee ... diplomatic commitments do have some weight," he said.

Assange, who has been holed up in the Ecuador embassy for nearly a week to avoid extradition to Sweden, again criticised Australian Prime Minister Julia Gillard over Canberra's handling of his case.

The former computer hacker said his situation was "a serious political matter... (that) the Australian government should treat with the seriousness it requires".

"I have been attacked by the US, from the vice president down, as a high-tech terrorist, and by the Swedish prime minister and foreign minister -- surely that requires some direct response from the Gillard government."

Assange has said he chose Ecuador's embassy instead of his home country's because he felt Canberra had done nothing to protect him, a charge the government has denied.

Canberra has said it has limited capacity to help him because he is not in Australia and has not broken any Australian laws.

Australia has also dismissed the idea that Washington is keen to get Assange, with Foreign Minister Bob Carr saying Sunday there was "no hint" of a plan to extradite him to the United States.
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Postby rath » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:06 am

greeney2 wrote:At this point there is no international arrest warrents so that makes it a moot point. He has exhaused all legal avenues up to the UK Supreme Court, and failed in a appeal of that ruling, so he is in no position to negotiate terms. By walking into the embassy, he has violated his bail, I am not sure if the UK has formally revoked his bail, however they said if he steps out of the embassy, he will be arrested.

Australia has also dismissed the idea that Washington is keen to get Assange, with Foreign Minister Bob Carr saying Sunday there was "no hint" of a plan to extradite him to the United States.



A. no arrest warrant, ...... if you say so. :thumbdown:

b. The USA has told Australia's Foreign Minister Bob Carr that there is no plan to extradite Julian Assange.


Politic Politics Politics .........

weather there is CURRENTLY a plan to extradite Julian Assange is neither here nor there.

What we do know is that the USA wants to get Julian Assange BAD, ...... so bad they can taste it.

We also know that the US government & legal process is the same as the rest of the worlds, & as such the process it self, is a giant machine that takes time to deliver an outcome.

The Fact is, there is a grand Jury in session and there has been for a long time.

Why do they wait to hand down there decision to extradite Julian Assange or not.

Could it be that they are not ready until they know Julian Assanges final location.

After all, ... what would be the point of convening a grand jury or preparing an indictment to extradite Julian Assange from England if he is then returned to Sweden and incarcerated there.

This would mean that the entire grad jury process would have4 been a waste of time as all the legal
processes & warrants would be related to the jurisdiction of England.

& warrant to arrest Julian Assange in England would not be valid in a different jurisdiction such as Sweden

So if the warrants are all signed to arrest Julian Assange in England and then it looked like he was going to be moved to sweded ..... then the US grand jury would have to start all over again.

Fact is, it is much easier to have the grand jury wait in secret & once they know Julian Assanges final location just enter the name of f that country into the already prepared warrant.

But if the US grand jury jumps the gun and say ..... puts England as the jurisdiction to extradite julian assange from on the warrant, & julian assange is then extradited to sweden to face other charges.

Well than .....

A ... the warrant to arrest Julian Assange is no longer valid because julian Assange would be in a different jurisdiction ( that being Sweden when the warrant would be for England ) So the USA would not be able to touch him untill the grand jury starts all over again to get a new warrant to extradite julian assange from sweden & that could take months / yerars.

& who knows where/ what country Julian Assange would be in by then, & that would make the entire grand jury process a waist of time.

:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:


So it is most likely that the grand Jury had planed for Julian Assange to be arrested in Sweden, which means the Grand Jury has all it's paperwork, relating to the Jurisdiction of Sweden.

( & remember Sweden is where Julian Assange Lived & most likely were much of his paper trail, folders, phone numbers, ect ect will be in his home or office. ) So it makes sense that the USA & the US Grand Jury is waiting for Julian Assange to be returned to the Jurisdiction of Sweden before they hand down there verdict to grant the warrant to arrest Julian Assange in Sweden.


Furthermore, the grand Jury can't hand down the final decision which they have already made, but not handed down. ....... They can't hand it down until' Julian Assange lands in Sweden. Where & when the nano second he does, it is most likely he will be arrested again. only this time to be extradited to the USA.


Again i say, if Julian Assange is arested in sweden he will likely be placed in a jail cell of some sort, meaning he can't go anywhere & thus meaning the USA has time to dot the I's and cross the T's on its warrant to arrest Julian assange. as the grand jury has already made its decision to grant the arrest warrant for Assange, all they need to do is hand down their decision once assange is in Sweden.


& the same applies for Ecuador, because the warrant has been granted but the Jurisdiction for the arrest has not been given ( left blank ) it makes it easier to enter another jurisdiction than it does to get a second warrant.



Leaked e-mail tips US 'sealed indictment' on Julian Assange

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99 ... sange.aspx


Charges against Assange drawn up in US, says email

http://www.theage.com.au/world/charges- ... 1u14c.html




http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/37512 ... case-.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Stratfor_email_leak
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Postby rath » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:33 am

STRATFOR EMAILS:

STRATFOR SYDNEY BASED WATCH OFFICER CHRIS FARNHAM CONNECTION TO SWEDISH WOMAN IN ASSANGE CASE

Tuesday 28th February 2012 23:00 GMT

On February 27, 2012, WikiLeaks began publishing The Global Intelligence Files, over five million e-mails from the private intelligence organization Stratfor, a US company based in Texas. Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm, Stratfor, reveal that the firm’s Sydney based watch officer, says he has connections with a friend of one of the Swedish women in the Assange case.

In a late 2010 email exchange with George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder, Farnham writes, "BTW, close family friend in Sweden who knows the girl that is pressing charges tells me that there is absolutely nothing behind it other than prosecutors that are looking to make a name for themselves. My friend speaks rather disparagingly about the girl who is claiming molestation. I also think the whole rape thing is incorrect for if I remember correctly rape was never the charge." (1657727)

Farnham elaborates in another email: "If it really matters I can look into it, but from what I am hearing that is not the case. That’s not to say that my friend is foolproof either. She knows nothing of law or politics, she just knows the girl in question and follows the news." (1681746)

Assange has not been indicted in the Swedish case, but recently released emails have revealed that the United States Government has had a secret inditement against the WikiLeaks founder for more than twelve months: "Not for Pub — We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect." (375123)

A few weeks earlier, following Julian Assange’s release from a London jail, where he had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor’s arrest warrant, Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, and a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS), told SkyNews: "extradition [to the US is] more and more likely". (373862).

Moreover, the bilateral agreement between the United States and Sweden allows Julian Assange to be extradited to the US as soon as he arrives in Sweden.

Sweden has not opposed an extradition to the US since 2000.

Julian Assange has been under house arrest for 448 days with no charge, since he was released from solitary confinement at Wandsworth prison in the UK on 7 December 2010. He awaits a ruling on his extradition appeal v. the Swedish Judicial Authority which was heard before the UK Supreme Court’s on February 1 and 2, 2012.

Assange’s appeal questioned whether the Swedish prosecutor, who issued the European Arrest Warrant, can claim to be called a ’judicial authority.’ As Geoffrey Robertson QC, Australian born human rights lawyer, has argued: "The notion that a prosecutor is a ’judicial authority’ is a contradiction in terms."

The decision to issue a European Arrest Warrant (EAW) and an INTERPOL Red Notice for the purpose of questioning a person, fully cooperating with authorities is highly suspect, as is the refusal of the Swedish prosecutor to interview Assange in London, as has been offered, and since doing so would be in accordance with the rules set forth under the terms of Mutual Legal Assistance.

At a February 7 and 8, 2011 hearing on the extradition case, Assange’s lawyers also argued that the UK should not extradite him to Sweden because Assange would not face a fair trial.

If extradited to Sweden, Assange will not be judged by an ’independent and impartial tribunal’, a fundamental requirement under the European Convention of Human Rights (article 61.) Three out of the four judges are lay judges, appointed by political parties with no formal, legal training.

On December 08, 2010 The Independent, a UK newspaper, reported that Sweden and the United States were already holding informal negotiations about Assange’s onward extradition. (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...))

On February 20, 2011, Louis Susman, US Ambassador to the UK said in a BBC interview with Andrew Marr, "[A]t this point in time, we have brought no action against Mr. Assange and we will have to see how it plays out in the British court."
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Postby rath » Mon Jun 25, 2012 1:37 am

PRESS RELEASE - STRATFOR EMAILS: US HAS ISSUED SEALED INDICTMENT AGAINST JULIAN ASSANGE

Tuesday 28th February 2012 18:30 GMT

Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States Government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months.

Fred Burton, Stratfor’s Vice-President for Counterterrorism and Corporate Security, is a former Deputy Chief of the Department of State’s (DoS) counterterrorism division for the Diplomatic Security Service (DSS).

In early 2011, Burton revealed in internal Stratfor correspondence that a secret Grand Jury had already issued a sealed indictment for Assange: "Not for Pub — We have a sealed indictment on Assange. Pls protect." (375123) According to Burton: "Assange is going to make a nice bride in prison. Screw the terrorist. He’ll be eating cat food forever." (1056988) A few weeks earlier, following Julian Assange’s release from a London jail, where he had been remanded as a result of a Swedish prosecutor’s arrest warrant, Fred Burton told SkyNews: "extradition [to the US is] more and more likely". (373862).

Emails from Fred Burton reveal that the US Government employs the same counterterrorism strategy against Julian Assange and WikiLeaks as against Al Qaeda: "Take down the money. Go after his infrastructure. The tools we are using to nail and de-construct Wiki are the same tools used to dismantle and track aQ [Al Qaeda]. Thank Cheney & 43 [former US President George W. Bush]. Big Brother owns his liberal terrorist arse." (1067796)

Ten days after the CIA reportedly assassinated Osama bin Laden, Burton writes in an email sent to Stratfor’s "Secure" mailing list that he "can get access to the materials seized from the OBL [Osama bin Laden] safe house." (1660854)

Burton states: "Ferreting out [Julian Assange’s] confederates is also key. Find out what other disgruntled rogues inside the tent or outside [sic]. Pile on. Move him from country to country to face various charges for the next 25 years. But, seize everything he and his family own, to include every person linked to Wiki." (1056763)

Along with the FBI, the Diplomatic Security Service and the Department of Defense (DoD) form a multi-agency US Government outfit seeking to criminally indict and prosecute WikiLeaks and Julian Assange. According to the Department of State, the DSS handles the investigation of all leads that involve the DoS and assists the DoD in forensic analysis of hard drives seized by the US Government in its ongoing criminal investigation.

Burton also says he "would pursue [c]onspiracy and [p]olitical [t]errorism charges and declassify the death of a source someone which [he] could link to Wiki" (1074383). Burton’s strategy is to: "[b]ankrupt the arsehole first," Burton states, "ruin his life. Give him 7-12 yrs for conspiracy." (1057220)

WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said: "For over a year now, the US Attorney General Eric Holder has been conducting a "secret" Grand Jury investigation into WikiLeaks. This neo-McCarthyist witch hunt against WikiLeaks may be Mr Holder’s defining legacy. Any student of American history knows that secret justice is no justice at all. Justice must be seen to be done. Legitimate authority arises out of the informed consent of the governed, not Eric Holder’s press secretary. Secret Grand Juries with secret indictments are apparently Eric Holder’s preferred method of dealing with publishers who hold his administration to account. Eric Holder has betrayed the legacy of Madison and Jefferson. He should drop the case or resign. Should he continue, however, the Obama administration may not — Democrats and Republicans alike believe in the right to tell the truth."

As early as June 2010, after the release of the Collateral Murder video but prior to the Afghan War Diaries release, the emails talk of a sealed indictment. In an email conversation between Shane Harris, a National Security journalist, and Burton, Harris is surprised that Assange was reporteded to be attending a Las Vegas Investigative Reporters and Editors (IRE) conference. Burton remarks: "As a foreign national, we could revoke [Julian Assange’s] travel status and deport. Could also be taken into custody as a material witness. We COULD have a sealed indictment and lock him up. Depends upon how far along the military case is" (391504). Julian Assange cancelled his appearance at the IRE conference due to security concerns.

In another email to Stephen Feldhaus, Stratfor legal counsel, about Ronald Kessler, a "pro-FBI journalist", Burton remarks: “I look forward to Manning and Assange facing a bajillion-thousand counts [of espionage]." (1035283)

In July 2010 alleged WikiLeaks source Bradley Manning was moved from Camp Arifjan, Kuwait to the Quantico Brig in the Military District of Washington at the request of Maj. Gen. Terry Wolff, then Commanding General of the 1st Armored Division/US Division – Center in Iraq.

Wolff requested Manning’s move, the Pentagon reported, "due to a potentially lengthy pre-trial confinement because of the complexity of the charges and an ongoing investigation.” Three days before Manning arrived at Quantico Brig, Burton wrote to George Friedman, Stratfor CEO and founder:

“We probably asked the ASIS [Australian Secret Intelligence Service] to monitor Wiki coms and email, after the soldier from Potomac was nabbed. So, it’s reasonable to assume we probably already know who has done it. The delay could be figuring out how to declassify and use the Aussie intel on Wiki... The owner [Julian Assange] is a peacenik. He needs his head dunked in a full toilet bowl at Gitmo.”
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Postby greeney2 » Mon Jun 25, 2012 8:25 am

So you are confirming there is no international arrest warrent yet, just like I said!

You copy and pasted a whole bunch of boloney, but I missed it saying 2 things. Nothing in your story tells a tale of the documents getting to Assange via your fabricated fairytale, about China and not Bradley Manning. Or that anything was unjust about his UK court rulings up to their Supreme Court.

All he has done is evade justice, and expect Austrailia, Sweden, UK, and USA to all ignore crimes he committed, and these are all governments of the free world. He now expects Equcuador, to give him assylm after the Supreme Court of the UK ruled against him.
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Postby rath » Mon Jun 25, 2012 11:38 am

Please ..... it's all there mate.

bet you didn't even read any of it .......

just stuck to your usual ignorant ling of attack.

You fail.



rath wrote:Tuesday 28th February 2012 18:30 GMT

Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States Government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months.




rath wrote:A. no arrest warrant, ...... if you say so. :thumbdown:

b. The USA has told Australia's Foreign Minister Bob Carr that there is no plan to extradite Julian Assange.


Politic Politics Politics .........

weather there is CURRENTLY a plan to extradite Julian Assange is neither here nor there.

What we do know is that the USA wants to get Julian Assange BAD, ...... so bad they can taste it.

We also know that the US government & legal process is the same as the rest of the worlds, & as such the process it self, is a giant machine that takes time to deliver an outcome.

The Fact is, there is a grand Jury in session and there has been for a long time.

Why do they wait to hand down there decision to extradite Julian Assange or not.

Could it be that they are not ready until they know Julian Assanges final location.

After all, ... what would be the point of convening a grand jury or preparing an indictment to extradite Julian Assange from England if he is then returned to Sweden and incarcerated there.

This would mean that the entire grad jury process would have4 been a waste of time as all the legal
processes & warrants would be related to the jurisdiction of England.

& warrant to arrest Julian Assange in England would not be valid in a different jurisdiction such as Sweden

So if the warrants are all signed to arrest Julian Assange in England and then it looked like he was going to be moved to sweded ..... then the US grand jury would have to start all over again.

Fact is, it is much easier to have the grand jury wait in secret & once they know Julian Assanges final location just enter the name of f that country into the already prepared warrant.

But if the US grand jury jumps the gun and say ..... puts England as the jurisdiction to extradite julian assange from on the warrant, & julian assange is then extradited to sweden to face other charges.

Well than .....

A ... the warrant to arrest Julian Assange is no longer valid because julian Assange would be in a different jurisdiction ( that being Sweden when the warrant would be for England ) So the USA would not be able to touch him untill the grand jury starts all over again to get a new warrant to extradite julian assange from sweden & that could take months / yerars.

& who knows where/ what country Julian Assange would be in by then, & that would make the entire grand jury process a waist of time.

:boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo: :boohoo:


So it is most likely that the grand Jury had planed for Julian Assange to be arrested in Sweden, which means the Grand Jury has all it's paperwork, relating to the Jurisdiction of Sweden.

( & remember Sweden is where Julian Assange Lived & most likely were much of his paper trail, folders, phone numbers, ect ect will be in his home or office. ) So it makes sense that the USA & the US Grand Jury is waiting for Julian Assange to be returned to the Jurisdiction of Sweden before they hand down there verdict to grant the warrant to arrest Julian Assange in Sweden.


Furthermore, the grand Jury can't hand down the final decision which they have already made, but not handed down. ....... They can't hand it down until' Julian Assange lands in Sweden. Where & when the nano second he does, it is most likely he will be arrested again. only this time to be extradited to the USA.


Again i say, if Julian Assange is arested in sweden he will likely be placed in a jail cell of some sort, meaning he can't go anywhere & thus meaning the USA has time to dot the I's and cross the T's on its warrant to arrest Julian assange. as the grand jury has already made its decision to grant the arrest warrant for Assange, all they need to do is hand down their decision once assange is in Sweden.


& the same applies for Ecuador, because the warrant has been granted but the Jurisdiction for the arrest has not been given ( left blank ) it makes it easier to enter another jurisdiction than it does to get a second warrant.



Leaked e-mail tips US 'sealed indictment' on Julian Assange

http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99 ... sange.aspx


Charges against Assange drawn up in US, says email

http://www.theage.com.au/world/charges- ... 1u14c.html




http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/37512 ... case-.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Stratfor_email_leak
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Postby rath » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:40 am

greeney2 wrote:
Supporters say Julian Assange is considering seeking asylum in Switzerland. He told a Spanish newspaper that he faced "hundreds of death threats," including some targeting his lawyers and children, aside from the pressure he is getting from prosecutors in the U.S. and other countries.


U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called Assange "a high-tech terrorist." He told NBC's "Meet the Press" he
hopes Assange will be prosecuted for the "enormous damage" the disclosures have done to the country and to its relationship with its allies.


But even as governments put pressure on Assange, WikiLeaks lives on. The Swiss Pirate Party said Sunday that wikileaks.ch was receiving about 3,000 visitors a second.

The party also said supporters are creating "mirrors" of the WikiLeaks site on their own servers, meaning that the diplomatic cables will remain available even if WikiLeaks loses its own site.

"Even if you take down the server in Sweden, it's too late," Swiss Pirate Party Vice President Pascal Gloor told The Associated Press on Sunday.

"There are hundreds of mirrors of WikiLeaks now," he said. "It's a test for Internet censorship. Can governments take something off the Net? I think not. There are copies of the website everywhere."



The U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, Donald Beyer, told NZZ am Sonntag that Switzerland "should very carefully consider whether to provide shelter to someone who is on the run from the law." The SonntagsZeitung quoted Beyer as saying he told the Swiss government that WikiLeaks would likely post more than 250 cables from the American Embassy in Bern.


"We have hundreds of specific death threats from U.S. military militants. That is not unusual, and we have become practiced from past experiences at ignoring such threats from Islamic extremists, African kleptocrats and so on," he said.

"Recently the situation has changed with these threats now extending out to our lawyers and my children," he added. "However, it is the specific calls from the elites of U.S. society for our assassination, kidnapping and execution that is more concerning."
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Postby greeney2 » Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:53 am

You can run but you can't hide, they will find you! The ball is in Ecuador's court, to decide assylm or not, either way he can not stay in the embassy forever. If they grant it, what happens between the embassy and the airpport, if he can be arrested or recieves diplomatic immunity leaving the country? If he is rejected, arrest will probably occur the minute he comes out, and this will seal his fate being extradited. Sweden when they recieve him, will now view this as a diffinate flight risk, and may very well hold him in jail, for this investigation. There is a big difference between dipolmatic immunity that evades some legal proceeding, but in this case all legal proceedings were done allready, and the only reason he walked into the embassy was due to having bailm in which he has violated those conditions. Not so sure he gets a free ticket to the airport in this case, since he had his day in court and it failed by due process. That is not political oppression by any means.

UK police demand Assange leave Ecuador embassy
Reuters – 42 mins agoEmailShare4PrintRelated ContentWikiLeaks founder Julian Assange …
LONDON (Reuters) - British police summoned WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange to a London police station on Thursday as part of his extradition process, demanding he leave Ecuador's embassy where he has been holed up seeking political asylum.

Assange, 40, is wanted for questioning in Sweden over sex crime allegations and took refuge in Ecuador's London embassy in a surprise move last week.

He now risks being arrested the moment he steps outside the red-brick building after breaching bail terms, keeping both his supporters and police puzzled as to what he might do next.

On Thursday, police said it had formally "served a surrender notice upon a 40-year-old man that requires him to attend a police station at date and time of our choosing".

It added: "He remains in breach of his bail conditions, failing to surrender would be a further breach of conditions and he is liable to arrest."

The statement, in line with UK police policy, did not name him but local media quoted sources identifying him as Assange.

The BBC reported the extradition unit delivered a note to both Assange and the Ecuador embassy. The embassy declined to comment. Other media reported that he was due to present himself to a police station on Friday.

Assange enraged Washington in 2010 when his WikiLeaks website published secret U.S. diplomatic cables.

He denies any wrongdoing in Sweden and says he fears that if extradited there he could be sent on to the United States, where he could face criminal charges punishable by death.

Assange, known for his unpredictable behavior, caused a media storm in Britain with his asylum bid. Ecuador's ambassador has in the meantime flown home to discuss whether to grant him asylum but the decision has yet to be made.

By diplomatic convention, police cannot enter the embassy without authorization from Ecuador. But even if Quito granted him asylum, he has no way of travelling to Ecuador without passing through London and exposing himself to arrest.

(Writing By Maria Golovnina; Editing by Jon Boyle)

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