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greeney2 wrote:At this point there is no international arrest warrents so that makes it a moot point. He has exhaused all legal avenues up to the UK Supreme Court, and failed in a appeal of that ruling, so he is in no position to negotiate terms. By walking into the embassy, he has violated his bail, I am not sure if the UK has formally revoked his bail, however they said if he steps out of the embassy, he will be arrested.
Australia has also dismissed the idea that Washington is keen to get Assange, with Foreign Minister Bob Carr saying Sunday there was "no hint" of a plan to extradite him to the United States.
rath wrote:Tuesday 28th February 2012 18:30 GMT
Confidential emails obtained from the US private intelligence firm Stratfor show that the United States Government has had a secret indictment against WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange for more than 12 months.
rath wrote:A. no arrest warrant, ...... if you say so.
b. The USA has told Australia's Foreign Minister Bob Carr that there is no plan to extradite Julian Assange.
Politic Politics Politics .........
weather there is CURRENTLY a plan to extradite Julian Assange is neither here nor there.
What we do know is that the USA wants to get Julian Assange BAD, ...... so bad they can taste it.
We also know that the US government & legal process is the same as the rest of the worlds, & as such the process it self, is a giant machine that takes time to deliver an outcome.
The Fact is, there is a grand Jury in session and there has been for a long time.
Why do they wait to hand down there decision to extradite Julian Assange or not.
Could it be that they are not ready until they know Julian Assanges final location.
After all, ... what would be the point of convening a grand jury or preparing an indictment to extradite Julian Assange from England if he is then returned to Sweden and incarcerated there.
This would mean that the entire grad jury process would have4 been a waste of time as all the legal
processes & warrants would be related to the jurisdiction of England.
& warrant to arrest Julian Assange in England would not be valid in a different jurisdiction such as Sweden
So if the warrants are all signed to arrest Julian Assange in England and then it looked like he was going to be moved to sweded ..... then the US grand jury would have to start all over again.
Fact is, it is much easier to have the grand jury wait in secret & once they know Julian Assanges final location just enter the name of f that country into the already prepared warrant.
But if the US grand jury jumps the gun and say ..... puts England as the jurisdiction to extradite julian assange from on the warrant, & julian assange is then extradited to sweden to face other charges.
Well than .....
A ... the warrant to arrest Julian Assange is no longer valid because julian Assange would be in a different jurisdiction ( that being Sweden when the warrant would be for England ) So the USA would not be able to touch him untill the grand jury starts all over again to get a new warrant to extradite julian assange from sweden & that could take months / yerars.
& who knows where/ what country Julian Assange would be in by then, & that would make the entire grand jury process a waist of time.
So it is most likely that the grand Jury had planed for Julian Assange to be arrested in Sweden, which means the Grand Jury has all it's paperwork, relating to the Jurisdiction of Sweden.
( & remember Sweden is where Julian Assange Lived & most likely were much of his paper trail, folders, phone numbers, ect ect will be in his home or office. ) So it makes sense that the USA & the US Grand Jury is waiting for Julian Assange to be returned to the Jurisdiction of Sweden before they hand down there verdict to grant the warrant to arrest Julian Assange in Sweden.
Furthermore, the grand Jury can't hand down the final decision which they have already made, but not handed down. ....... They can't hand it down until' Julian Assange lands in Sweden. Where & when the nano second he does, it is most likely he will be arrested again. only this time to be extradited to the USA.
Again i say, if Julian Assange is arested in sweden he will likely be placed in a jail cell of some sort, meaning he can't go anywhere & thus meaning the USA has time to dot the I's and cross the T's on its warrant to arrest Julian assange. as the grand jury has already made its decision to grant the arrest warrant for Assange, all they need to do is hand down their decision once assange is in Sweden.
& the same applies for Ecuador, because the warrant has been granted but the Jurisdiction for the arrest has not been given ( left blank ) it makes it easier to enter another jurisdiction than it does to get a second warrant.
Leaked e-mail tips US 'sealed indictment' on Julian Assange
http://www.globaltimes.cn/NEWS/tabid/99 ... sange.aspx
Charges against Assange drawn up in US, says email
http://www.theage.com.au/world/charges- ... 1u14c.html
http://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/37512 ... case-.html
Supporters say Julian Assange is considering seeking asylum in Switzerland. He told a Spanish newspaper that he faced "hundreds of death threats," including some targeting his lawyers and children, aside from the pressure he is getting from prosecutors in the U.S. and other countries.
U.S. Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell called Assange "a high-tech terrorist." He told NBC's "Meet the Press" hehopes Assange will be prosecuted for the "enormous damage" the disclosures have done to the country and to its relationship with its allies.
But even as governments put pressure on Assange, WikiLeaks lives on. The Swiss Pirate Party said Sunday that wikileaks.ch was receiving about 3,000 visitors a second.
The party also said supporters are creating "mirrors" of the WikiLeaks site on their own servers, meaning that the diplomatic cables will remain available even if WikiLeaks loses its own site.
"Even if you take down the server in Sweden, it's too late," Swiss Pirate Party Vice President Pascal Gloor told The Associated Press on Sunday.
"There are hundreds of mirrors of WikiLeaks now," he said. "It's a test for Internet censorship. Can governments take something off the Net? I think not. There are copies of the website everywhere."
The U.S. ambassador to Switzerland, Donald Beyer, told NZZ am Sonntag that Switzerland "should very carefully consider whether to provide shelter to someone who is on the run from the law." The SonntagsZeitung quoted Beyer as saying he told the Swiss government that WikiLeaks would likely post more than 250 cables from the American Embassy in Bern.
"We have hundreds of specific death threats from U.S. military militants. That is not unusual, and we have become practiced from past experiences at ignoring such threats from Islamic extremists, African kleptocrats and so on," he said.
"Recently the situation has changed with these threats now extending out to our lawyers and my children," he added. "However, it is the specific calls from the elites of U.S. society for our assassination, kidnapping and execution that is more concerning."
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