The Black Vault

Quite surprised that none here have ventured down this path. Any thoughts on this horrific crime?

As for me............probably write a book!

Cole

The almighty game of football, and image of a University, was the prioriety. And the students rioted for the honor of almighty coach, who kept his mouth shut with them. Sports needs to take a good look at who we put on pedistals, and shut our eyes to, over a stupid game.

It's deeper than that, being just a game I mean. I've followed it since it first broke and have seen all of the opinions from anyone and everyone. Above all Franco Harri's was by far the very very worst, one too many blows to the head in my opinion.

The real truth has yet to be told, I doubt it ever will. Too many very very powerful forces involved, it's the only way this could have been muzzled for so long.

It's very very possible that Joe Pa is so, was so disconnected, that he's completely ignorant of how very horrific this sort of thing truly is, but more likely he simply turned a blind eye. I can see that being a result of his generation, upbringing, belief system, and of course his age. Maybe he didn't believe it was as bad as it really was. Who knows?

I saw him in the footage, clearly he's very very far " out of touch " 84 years old.....Just so obvious that he's well well beyond anything even close to his past presence...........to me he looks more like a relic than a Division 1 Head coach...Does he still drive a car? Can he drive a car and drive it safely?

Surely given some of his recent statements his judgmental skilz have long since evaporated, at least they're nothing like they used to be.

I'll say something that to date I've seen no one else say of put forward. It is my opinion that those involved were not protecting Penn State or it's athletic Dept by not going to the police, they were protecting something else. If they weren't, then these past 9 years of abuse would have never ever happened because they would have taken care of it immediately after the grad assistant first informed Paterno of what he witnessed in the shower in 2002. Yet for some unanswered, yet to be answered reason, they did not.

I'm interested to see just exactly what the investigation uncovers, and exactly HOW FAR they're willing to go!!!

Anyone who knows me knows exactly how sore this subject is to me personally, it's something that no one of any age should ever have to endure, let alone being 8,9, 0r 10 years old when it happens.

This man should be shot dead and left to hang in the town square until the vermin pick his bones clean, even that would be too good for the sick bastard.

Sure he'll eventually get some penal justice at the hands of inmates, but only if he goes to prison and not some day spa type confinement, So I say go Gary Gilmore on his ass and call it a day.

Cole

LIke I said, pick a sport, and you find it full of every gambit of abuse under the sun. Aggression and dominance is what its all stems from. Macho stuff, who is stronger, at what cost? The sports jocks all seem to love their coaches in school. Some progress into being a beloved University coach, like Paterno or Woody Hayes was. Many move onto the pros where they really are revered. If you were never a sports jock in high school most high school memories include stories about PE teachers, that were known as "the ***holes of the earth" to most. Maybe that is a clue about sports the majority are left with as kids. The gym teachers to most kids, are complete idiots, and their idiotic ways are talked about at every high school reunion. The great almighty coaches turned out to really be total idiots in reflexion.

The sport itself seems to be the secondary ingrediant that fuels the disfunctional prevailing behavior. Beat the Dog, beat the wife, beat the kids if you loose the game. Get drunk, get stoned, get wasted is things go bad on the field. Yell at everyone, abuse everyone, lie, cheat and steal, they are all beneith you. Take whatever you want to, the fans all love you. Date Rape who cares! You can get away with murder it you are the charmed running back of the universe. Protect the image, do what every you want to, you can get away with it. As long as we put these people on pedistals, make them rich beyond belief, nothing will ever change in sports.

I am disgusted by it all
not just the people involved in it and the cover up but all those people out there that were rallying for Patterno
they should be ashamed of themselves


the way it was all covered up and worke don within the organization and such..instead fo directly going to the police..so reminds me of the Catholic church child molestation and rape scandals

bionic wrote:I am disgusted by it all
not just the people involved in it and the cover up but all those people out there that were rallying for Patterno
they should be ashamed of themselves


the way it was all covered up and worke don within the organization and such..instead fo directly going to the police..so reminds me of the Catholic church child molestation and rape scandals

I've said it here more than once, probably dozens of times. The youth of today ( not all ) but the vast majority, are too stupid to grasp anything on this scale--------------it has nothing to do with coaches, sports, athletics, professional, amateur, or the likes. Neither about protecting any institution or University--------------It happens every single day, every day...it's about the who, what, where, and when of exactly what actually happened..........

For anyone to suggest that Joe Pa was out of the loop is absolute stupidity-------I made a reference to his age, and his generation as it may reflect on his awareness, or his understanding of what actually happened---------------but NEVER would I dare to suggest or even think that he didn't know--------------He was driving the Bus--------------he had to know, end of discussion.

Question:

Is there any chance that more than one person was involved with the victims? Akin to a ring hiding in plain sight!

I ask this because Sandusky was still hanging around campus, still had an office, still doing stuff in, near, and around the immediate area....

Who was in position of authority that was able to sweep all of those possibilities under the big rug in the corner?

Just read through some of the names of those who sat/sit on the board of the " SECOND MILE "......................I hate to say this but being 100% as honest as possible..................this was easier for Sandusky than pouring a morning cup of coffee.............Everything was set up right there in front of him.................all he had to do was act and it was easy given the fact that based on evidence collected thus far, it seems as if someone enabled him the entire time this was taking place. JMHO...............But I'm not going to be surprised if they uncover more than one person with a thing for young boys.

Just a few others in the long list of truly sick and twisted individuals whom walk among us on a daily basis.

I would hope to see them made an EXTREME example of, obviously that would require going outside the rule of law..............A pity in my book, especially when it comes to children.

Cole

Don't recall his name, the young red haired coach, who the put on suspension, who was the eye whitness to Sandusky, said tonight that he stopped the insodent, reported it to Paterno and he also went to the police. He talked to police dectectives at the time of the insodent. Take this one step further, that the University possibly with the Police opted to cover this up. I'm sure this went right to the heads of the city, mayor, the cops, with the university, and they all conspired to leave it alone, for fear of what it would result in.

If the University got kicked out of the football leagues like USC was this last year, the city and University would loose a fortune. They would not recover for years to come. All the revenue lost, from home games would kill their local business all around town. The entire fall economy would go right down the drain. It would kill the University from that revenue, and tarnish the University for decades. Enrollment would plummet. Everything from Motels, Hotels, cabs, restraunts, parking lots, car rentals, other night life, and all the revenue produced from all the out of towners coming in. The taxes the city and state make from sales. It would have been disasterous, and that is why they all shut up about it. The knew the football season means hundreds of millions per year to their local economy, plus the University income.

I agree on the rev stream issue as it pertains to football, but this is bigger than that.

I learned last night that Penn State is one of three institutions in the state of Pennsylvania that is exempt from disclosure law. This means they do not have to honor FOIA requests and are covered by law........

In looking at the BIG PICTURE it was my first question.....How keeping such a thing under wraps was even remotely possible without others being involved.

Now many a smart investigator is asking the very same question........Happy Valley's Police Chief refused to speak with the media. One has to assume that he gets his cues from someone else.............So back to what is really going on and who may or may not be involved.

Cole

if I decided to go serial killer...

Yep it's all coming undone, becoming a bit clearer. The judge has been replaced---conflict of interest via marriage. Imagine that!!!!!

The Police are denying that McGuery ( sic ) ever talked with them---------well he actually claims to have talked with the campus police---------They say they have no " REPORT " Why would they ever admit to that, they don't have to publicize anything...................so WTF would you ever expect them to say......

I'm not saying that they are lying----------but they could have shredded everything and no one would ever consider it anything other than business as usual.

No Sir-------------you've got yourself something far beyond one person here.........Fully half the Town/locals are beholden to Penn State for personal income.........Once that wall is breached it's more than likely that all hell is going to break loose.

The local High School is now involved------------they too handed Sandusky the keys to the city ( so to speak ) Many many lawsuits coming, many many people going down in flames------------pity that they pay with their jobs and shame as opposed to their lives. Jmho

Cole