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Postby bionic » Fri Mar 11, 2011 3:38 pm

Mael,
Glad you are okay.

I am so sorry and sad for ya'll over there. So awful.
You're in my thoughts and prayers.

I wonder if that comet Elinin(?) has anything to do with this.

Mael..you and yours stay safe...

I hear there are soem worries about nuclear meltdowns.
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Postby event_horizon » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:28 pm

Terrifying video of a boat caught in the vortex of a giant whirlpool created by the earthquake:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8WJ5tkghiI

Man, I hope no one was onboard.
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Postby bionic » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:41 pm

huh...a whirlpool implies a drain..water going down into something..a crack in the land underneath?
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Postby event_horizon » Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:57 pm

Definition of whirlpool:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/whirlpool

1. A rapidly rotating current of water; a vortex.
2. A) Turmoil; whirl. B) A magnetic, impelling force into which one may be pulled.
3. A bathtub or pool having jets of warm water that can be directed toward a body part as for therapeutic purposes.

Obviously this is referring to definitions 1 and 2, not 3.
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Postby greeney2 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:21 pm

We saw the same thing on a muchmuch smaller scale this morning in the Ventura Marina. OUr surge in Califoria was small but enough to have torn boats from their docks and pull them out the marina channels. The water receeds and sucks out to sea, than the surge comes back in. The outgoing and incoming rushes of water passing each other swirls and makes this whirlpool effect. The one I saw this morning in Ventura was something that was a fraction of the size of the one shown in the Japanese video, but how it was formed was the same. The one in Japan was big enough to completly control that large boat.
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Postby bionic » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:26 pm

I was just wondering if such a defined vortex like that could be caused by the changing currents by the earth shaking and roling and such. I assumed that rapid earth movments would have caused larger, generalized sloshing about and not such a defined vortex..that's why I was wondering if a definate crack had opened in the fault line under that area..or land under there had seriously sunk lower in that spot.
I guess the rapid current changes could account for it too
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vortex

oop..just saw that you explained it, Greeney
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Postby greeney2 » Fri Mar 11, 2011 7:37 pm

Where I grew up in Buffalo, we were only 10 miles from Niagara falls. The grand rapids gorge has a turn in the river, after the falls on the way to Lake Ontario. In that bend is a natural Whirlpool, which is someone along the size of the Japan video. There is a cable car ride over the top of it about 1/2 mile across. Where this clearly is a vortex that sucks things in, I'm not sure if the japan tide whirlpool can suck something down the center of it. At Niagara falls, large logs have been seen sucked right in and pulled under, as memory serves me.
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Postby rath » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:20 am

Explosion at Japanese nuclear power plant leads to meltdown fears

JAPAN is nervously waiting the ramifications of an explosion at a nuclear power plant last night amid fears it could leak.

"We are now trying to analyse what is behind the explosion," government spokesman Yukio Edano said, warning that people near the Fukushima No. 1 plant, 260km north of Tokyo, should quickly evacuate.

"We ask everyone to take action to secure safety. This is potentially very dangerous."

Four people were injured in the explosion that ripped through the reactor. It was a result of Friday's earthquake and tsunami knocking out power used to pump water to cool the reactor's core.

TV footage showed smoke billowing from the plant.

As radiation leaked from the plant, 45,000 residents around the plant were beginning to evacuate to a 10km safety zone.

Residents were told to avoid exposing their skin, cover their faces with masks and wet towels and avoid all tap water.


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Further complicating the crisis last night was a magnitude 4 earthquake in the region.

Japanese news agencies said Fukushima plant No. 2 was also malfunctioning with the radiation levels from both reaching almost 1000 times the normal level.

The two nuclear plants affected are in an urban area of 30 million people.

The Tokyo Electric Power released some radioactive vapour at the plants to relieve building reactor pressure.

When Friday's massive quake hit, the plants immediately shut down, along with others in quake-hit parts of Japan, as they are designed to do but the cooling systems failed, the Government said.

The major fear is fuel rods, which create heat through a nuclear reaction, could become exposed and release radioactivity.

When reactors shut down, cooling systems must kick in to bring down the very high temperatures. These systems are powered by either the external electricity grid, back-up generators or batteries. This is key to preventing a "nuclear meltdown" and major radioactive release.

Earlier, Prime Minister Naoto Kan had inspected the power plants to assess the situation.

Military personnel have been dispatched to Fukushima, including a chemical corps and an aircraft on a "fact-finding mission".

Nuclear expert Professor Paddy Regan, of Surrey University, said the explosion was of "considerable concern".

"It's not clear what has exploded. The big problem would be if the pressure vessel has exploded," he said.

"If the pressure vessel, which is the thing that actually holds all the nuclear fuel, if that was to explode - that's basically what happened at Chernobyl - you get an enormous release of radioactive material."

Yaroslov Shtrombakh, a Russian nuclear expert, said a Chernobyl-style meltdown was unlikely but could not be ruled out. "It's not a fast reaction like at Chernobyl," he said. "I think that everything will be contained within the grounds, and there will be no big catastrophe. But we need to know more about what happened in there."

In 1986, the Chernobyl nuclear reactor exploded and caught fire, sending a cloud of radiation over much of Europe.

Foreign Minister Kevin Rudd offered his Japanese counterpart Takeaki Matsumoto whatever expertise the Australian Radiation Protection Nuclear Safety agency could provide to help deal with the problem.

The Federal Ggovernment agency is responsibility for protecting people and the environment from the harmful effects of radiation (ionising and non-ionising).

"I also indicated we would be providing Japanese language capabilities, as we were sending Japanese language experts with the search and rescue teams, so there are no language problems on the ground," he said.

Former Adelaide resident Antonio Rossi, who now lives in Japan, said watching the explosion on television he could see a "sonic boom".

"You could see it quite graphically," he said.

"Tower one has exploded, it's gone, it's non-existent," Mr Rossi said.
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Postby rath » Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:21 am

Japan is Toast ........

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Postby rath » Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:32 am

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