Tairaa wrote:That has nothing to do with anything. The Bible is wrong about stuff, the Earth wasn't created in 7 days etc. The problem is you can interpret it to be anything you want.
If the bible can be interpreted to mean anything, how is it necessarily wrong about stuff?
So answer the question. What about everyone born before approximately 0 BCE? What about everyone who's died before they've been able to think for themselves or those who have never even heard of your God? What happens to them? They are burnt in hell forever for their ignorance?
The bible doesn't say one way or the other what happens to people who died before, or never heard of, Christ. You and I can take guesses, but what's the point of guessing. Hypothesizing about the fate of people we'll never know makes for interesting discussion I guess, but it's pretty irrelevant to us especially since we just don't know. I know that based on the character of God, my opinion is: anyone who died not knowing about Christ, is judged according to merit.
A mass murderer who accepts jesus into his heart before he dies is forgiven. yet a man who lives a good and humble life doing no wrong to anyone goes to hell. Sadism.
I cringe at the phrase "accepts Jesus" but anyway I know what you're saying so I'll move on. Sin... be it murder, abuse, adultery, stealing, and lying, is that. SIN. We all sin, fall short of righteousness, and fall short of worthiness. All of us. Jesus said Himself, No one is good but God alone
. It may seem crazy to you but we are all on equal footing when it comes to Judgment Day.
That's a strange thing to assume about a 'total stranger' as you put it.
It's not an assumption.
Ok, well then it's ignorant and arrogant.
In my case it's not guesswork at all. Do you think Christians read the bible, put it down, then just decide to believe it?
Yes. Whether or not you conciousless decide or if you disguise your conscious decision it is a decision.
Think about what you are saying. Someone can just sit down and decide
to believe something? You know, as hard as I try, I guarantee you I can't make
myself believe in the Tooth Fairy. I could read 500 books about the Tooth Fairy and still, it would require a miracle for me to believe. If you really think that someone could change himself from nonbeliever to believer--just by conscious decision--a decision that has deep, problematic, life-changing implications--then you, to put it politely, are quite naive. "You know Marge, I've been thinking... starting tomorrow, I'm going to start believing in Jesus as my Lord and Savior. What the heck, I'll give it a whirl!" That doesn't make a lot of sense, does it?
I've got news for you, I've read a great deal of the bible and also a bit of the old testament.
Redundant statement, but go ahead.
God never talked to me.
Ok, that's fine. I had a different experience. I didn't pick up the Bible until after
God entered my life. I tried to read it a few times as a nonbeliever but I got sick of it and put it down after a couple of chapters, everytime. Bored the living daylights out of me and made no sense to boot.
If he did for you and not for me then that's another sign that he's a sadist.
He hasn't accepted you yet
. That doens't mean He never will.
But to me it seems more logical that it's merely those who want to believe who hear him.
I'm sure there are people out there who are in a state of disbelief but want to hear God so bad their imagination plays tricks on them (or they subconciously and intentionally, trick themselves).
First of all personal experience doesn't equal fact. Not by a long shot. Especially when that personal experience is majorly rooted in emotion.
I can't understand that one. A personal experience can still be a factual experience without the presence of any
Second, in a practical sense you read a book and believed it. Which is NOT the same as me reading scientific literature and believing it. The difference is that of evidence, the bible has no evidence. You believe on blind faith, I decide what I believe in from conclusions drawn upon the available evidence. Huge difference.
You have absolutely zero evidence other than text and instructional videos that, for example, the theory of evolution has any merit whatsoever. What you call "evidence" is nothing but a book that makes claims and has a few names attached to it of people that you don't know. How are you any different than someone who reads the bible, then reads several books that support the bible, all written by highly educated scholars?