I absolutely know of MANY documented cases of people who have had ZERO brain waves and ZERO heart beat that have had NDE's. No need to get rude with me either. There is a show on Cable called "I survived, beyond and back" It has many such cases on it. Don Piper is another case. He is a Southern Baptist Preacher who was literally dead for 90 minutes, went to heaven and came back. He couldn't be lying because 3 different sets of paramedics checked him and declared him dead at the scene of a horrific car accident. He was run over by a semi truck. His book is called 90 Minutes in heaven. D.L. Moody, a GREAT evangelist who was as big as Billy Grahm in the 1800s had a NDE. He died and came back 15 minutes later, told about heaven and seeing his grandkids, talked to his children about what he wanted them to do with his ministries, then died for good. Most people that have NDE's can see their body and people trying to help them. The see and hear everything that's going on, but no one can hear or see them because it's their soul leaving their body. They say it's like entering into a warm bath, everything is complete and utter peace and time has no meaning.
Here are some episodes of "I survived Beyond and Back". Watch them and tell me if I'm talking out of my rear: If the link doesn't work, type in "I survived beyond and back episodes" in your google search and click videos.http://www.youtube.com/results?hl=en&su ... a=N&tab=w1