greeney2 wrote:Cole I know you know a lot about boxing. Are there any statistics about injuries being reduced when they went to 12 rounds instead of 15? I'm sure Greg Page was in the 15 round era also, but the injury was in a 2001 fight. This was probably a result of a single blow, but the accumulative career damage is what i'm talking about.
Few people would volunteer to be hit one time by a Forman punch. I'm surprized people like George or a Tyson Punch never did the same thing to anyone. Moorer never made any kind of foritable come back after George either.
TV doesn't do boxing justice, never has and never will, not even HD. Many untold stories of Boxing's bad side will always remain buried to protect the Gate at the Main event events.
One fight was responsible for making Championship fights 12 rders instead of 15 ABOVE ALL OTHERS. The Ray " BOOM BOOM " Mancini vs D k Kim~~a brutal war that by all rights should have been stopped. I remember that like it was yesterday. A sad day unfolded on network TV disguised as a classic fight, only Kim died of injuries sustained in the fight. It effectively ended two careers, Mancini was a shell of his former self after that fight. This fight went far to spur on Pay Per View events complete with disclaimers for those buying the feed. Legal loop holes for money. I've many on tape.
One of the three factions wba, wbc, other idiots, kept 15 rders but it only lasted a few more fights before they caved to the Doctors who had run certain tests on ex boxers. It helped Leonard when he used the ploy against Hagler. 12 instead of 15. 12 is plenty to test any fighter, 10 always provided a sense of urgency but was too tough a sell to the public for main events.
Don't forget about Ali and all the 15 ers he did, going the distance in many against younger fighters when he was in his thirties. His condition also was all the stats most close to boxing needed to change the number of rounds for each fight.
I'm sure Rocky M did his share of brain damage as did Jake LaMotta. I've seen screw drivers used to pry open mouths after broken jaws to keep the fighter from suffocating on their own blood. That never gets shown on TV. That happened in one of Jerry Cooney's early fight as a young Pro. He had a guy on the ropes and hit him flush with that left hook breaking his jaw. The follow up broke the nose and shut off most of the air.
Yeah lots of history on boxing injuries. Speaking of Cooney, Norton was lucky all that got broken was his jaw.
watch the second close his air off by pinching off the nose so he's forced to open his mouth so he can remove the mouthpiece after he's knocked unconscious. The camera cuts away just as it happens.
The left hook dug to the body that lifted Norton off the canvas was the punch yet even Cooney thinks it was the right hand. His right hand was weak, his left hook lethal. Hell you can hear it. Realistically it's the third punch of the fight from Cooney at the .23 mark. Like I said you can hear it and Norton is all but done from there.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Fb0Qidm9Fg Cole
Can you believe that Foreman did the exact same thing to Cooney. Another shot to the chest and Coony folds like a cheap lawn chair. 2nd round. Cooney was shown the door after this beating.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2XlGWhY_5I
Yeah I'd pass on anything from George, even the jab!