frrostedman wrote:Hamas, the Palestinian leadership, has as its highest, ultimate priority, establishing a worldwide caliphate. You know what that means. Maybe not today, but, if given enough time and power, they will want you, me, and every Westerner converted or dead. A mentality like this needs to be confined and kept from spreading. Occupied ancestors' territory or not, the boundaries have been drawn. Maybe the Palestinians--if they truly just wanted their ancestors' land back instead of being filled with constant bloodlust--could play smart like the Progressives did in the USA. The Progressives worked toward their goal for many decades... building power... playing nice. Palestine would get 2 or 3 times the aid they are getting now if they would just calm the F down and act like human beings for a little while. How many cease fires were offered--Israel abiding by every one of them... Palestine breaking every one of them. Enough is enough. Barbarism has got to go. Hamas is just another piece of the Muslim Brotherhood. The whole thing needs to be cut away from civilization and irradiated like a malignant tumor.
The boundaries were drawn, and then slowly erased and re-drawn by Israeli Leadership, much like the territories of the Native Americans you mention below. That doesn't give Hamas the right to shoot rockets into Israeli land and kill Israeli people. That entire area's fascination with violent retribution is nothing I would ever agree with. I understand why they're doing it, and I know that Israel has to defend itself. It's a mess, just like the last time, and the time before that, etc.
frrostedman wrote:Cole and Wing. Wherever you live. If you are consistent with your line of reasoning.. If you truly believe in your position.. then if Native American Indians fired a constant barrage of rockets and missiles into your city, killing friends, even family... you would get the Indian headdresses out and do a war dance in celebration and support of them. After all, you ARE occupying their ancestors' territory. They have every right to slaughter you in the streets. Am I wrong?
It's an interesting point, to be sure. No one has the right to slaughter people in the streets, regardless of whose land it really is. If it ever came to be that there was a true negotiation to give back territory to Native peoples, and if my property happened to be in it, I reckon I'd leave. Or buy it from them, if they were willing to sell. That's just me, though.
Then again, I rent, so it doesn't really affect me.
War is an extension of economics and diplomacy through other means.
Economics and diplomacy are methods of securing resources used by humans.
Securing resources is the one necessary behavior for all living things.
War = Life