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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Sun May 06, 2012 9:38 pm

shadowcass wrote:you can DO anything you want


No, you can't.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Sun May 06, 2012 9:41 pm

at1with0 wrote:Limited free will does not imply no free will.


What does limited free will imply?
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby khanster » Sun May 06, 2012 11:47 pm

As long as there exists at least two choices or options, then there is free will.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby shadowcass » Mon May 07, 2012 12:12 am

Sure you can...
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby khanster » Mon May 07, 2012 12:47 am

shadowcass wrote:
In other words you can DO anything you want



I want to levitate and fly like an eagle using telekinetic mind power.

I as yet have not achieved that ability.

I cannot do anything I want.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Mon May 07, 2012 6:18 am

Let us not belabor the point, khan. If cass wishes to pretend she can do anything, that is her choice.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby at1with0 » Mon May 07, 2012 8:11 am

DIss0n80r wrote:
at1with0 wrote:Limited free will does not imply no free will.


What does limited free will imply?


Limited free will implies free will. :shock:
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby khanster » Mon May 07, 2012 11:55 pm

Free will is parameterized by causal constraints.
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby DIss0n80r » Tue May 08, 2012 2:12 am

"Unto the empty night I plead
And wait absurdly for the lie
That will surely set me free
Until the very day I die!"
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Re: Free Will, Does it Exist?

Postby khanster » Thu May 10, 2012 1:04 am

Freedom is power
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