frrostedman wrote:We've recently gone round and round with this khanster. I'm sure it's in a thread on page 1 of this forum.
Anyway, many believers will argue with me til the cows come home on this, but the fact is, if you believe the bible, then you must believe that we do not have 100% free will. We have free will, yes, but we do not have full autonomy.
Adam and Eve had 99.999999999% free will to do what they want without consequence. They could do an infinite number of things, but for 2: Don't eat the fruit from this tree and that tree. Were they satisfied? No. And so it goes. Most of us are utterly and completely dissatisfied unless we have full autonomy.
Frrosty, when you talked aobut Pi, the endless nature of the decimal point ment infinity to you, but this one 99.999999999 does not have the same meaning to you. If we agree 100% would be the highest numerical expression of free will, 99.9999999999% is infinate, why does that not compute to you, we have total and complete free will? Even if God limited the eating of the apple, Adam an Eve still have the free will to obey God 100%.