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Postby sandra » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:23 pm

at1with0 wrote:Or the meek are swept away.

Well put. You were able to articulate exactly what I happen to think.

On a different note.. You seen bladerunner? Remember how Rebecca (a replicant) was implanted with memories of a childhood? It's plausible that in every moment we are implanted with memories of our entire past, though I'm not sure why that would be.

You've probably heard of the butterfly effect. Well if a butterfly can cause a tornado, then what can a tornado cause?? 8-) Of course I mean that metaphorically, the meek and the not so meek.


Bladerunner, nope, prolly should then.
Yeah I like that question.... but what is meek anyways?
I once had a vision of being in the eye of a tornado, it was the will of God
coming for me, and I stood there and said I was ready. Luckily
no I did not fly to pieces, as everything I had not needed was already
gone.....and I just had not known it for some time. Kind of like
someone else that I know.
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Postby at1with0 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:05 pm

sandra wrote:
at1with0 wrote:
sandra wrote:And what will stand in its way....
And what can stand in the way of Children of God?
Nothing.
Nothing will be able to.
And nothing is right now.
They have the unchangeable to change everything.


Who isn't a child of God?


This question could have a million and 1 perceptions from each point
of consciousness here, however you are asking.
When your vibration can change anything and everything
that question doesn't need to be asked does it.


Indeed it could. What is your current understanding as to the answer?
What questions DO need to be asked??

Are you saying some people are singled out, and they are "Children of God" while others aren't? If we're not all "Children of God," then what defines a "Child of God?"

Sure, it would be nice if nothing will stand in one's way. I'm asking how one can get to that point if they aren't already automatically a Child of God. Perhaps it's simply realizing that one is.

sandra wrote:
at1with0 wrote:Or the meek are swept away.

Well put. You were able to articulate exactly what I happen to think.

On a different note.. You seen bladerunner? Remember how Rebecca (a replicant) was implanted with memories of a childhood? It's plausible that in every moment we are implanted with memories of our entire past, though I'm not sure why that would be.

You've probably heard of the butterfly effect. Well if a butterfly can cause a tornado, then what can a tornado cause?? 8-) Of course I mean that metaphorically, the meek and the not so meek.


Bladerunner, nope, prolly should then.
Yeah I like that question.... but what is meek anyways?

I thought you knew since you brought it up. 8-)


I once had a vision of being in the eye of a tornado, it was the will of God
coming for me, and I stood there and said I was ready. Luckily
no I did not fly to pieces, as everything I had not needed was already
gone.....and I just had not known it for some time. Kind of like
someone else that I know.

Anyone I know, per chance?
I wonder if nothing needs to happen, given that God is unchangable. It is widely held that God is all powerful but what if the true power is in realizing that nothing needs to be changed? That would be the case if it's true that "everything happens for a reason."
Interesting that it used a tornado to convey its message. I see that as a destructive force that you were able to handle by sound positioning. Do you also see it as a destructive force or perhaps just power. Do you think you own this power, that it is yours? Perhaps that's the nothing will stand in a "Child of God's" way; I assume you believe you're one of them.
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Postby sandra » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:57 pm

at1with0 wrote:
Indeed it could. What is your current understanding as to the answer?
What questions DO need to be asked??


The question is, Christ walked the earth thousands of years ago, how much
since do you think the Mind body and spirit of God and of Christ is now capable of?
Where are these perceptions going to come from, these new realities, how will
they be created and known? If Christ said to us that he was going to his father
and after even greater things would be done in his name.... when will those
things come to light and how? Who is going to be capable of first imagining
the perfection of this new life? This is how we know who is not a child of God,
if Christ can't have them, they can't have themselves, so in other words.
It is time that what will be shown is the strength in Christ which is
If he can't have you no one will and thats the way it has always been.
The destructive force of Love, is there such a thing? Ask that question
to yourself. How does it feel to go through the wringer and feel the burn
in every way possible, the death of self will. Sure feels good doesn't it,
Gods love sure feels good warm and fuzzy right. While being chosen by the
spirit, its a bad romance now isnt it. Its a if I can't have you no one will.
Lady gaga has a jam to that like nin.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I




Are you saying some people are singled out, and they are "Children of God" while others aren't? If we're not all "Children of God," then what defines a "Child of God?"


Can everyone in this moment
be a child of God and yet remain in darkness as a result of the light
and Gods plan for a new creation?

The Dark has no say what God wills and creates.

A child of God is to be made perfect in Love, unchangeable while able to change anything, out of Love. As much was added to that as ok to right now, we are all in a different place in mind, which I don't like to overlook.

Anyone I know, per chance?
I wonder if nothing needs to happen, given that God is unchangable. It is widely held that God is all powerful but what if the true power is in realizing that nothing needs to be changed? That would be the case if it's true that "everything happens for a reason."
Interesting that it used a tornado to convey its message. I see that as a destructive force that you were able to handle by sound positioning. Do you also see it as a destructive force or perhaps just power. Do you think you own this power, that it is yours? Perhaps that's the nothing will stand in a "Child of God's" way; I assume you believe you're one of them.


Of course I am a child of Christ, and if you haven't figured that out as of yet, than you have never truly known ANY, you have never known ANY in the light of the TRUTH.
Things of yourself have remained hidden. And you have fooled yourself into
believing you know the light of the TRUTH in CHRIST while being strong enough
to reject what YOU will. What you have rejected has not been the truth, if that
were the case, you would be the only one to accomplish the absolute impossible.
Even Satan believes he knows Christ. Believes he can avoid the love of Christ. :lol:
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astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
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Postby at1with0 » Sat Dec 18, 2010 8:06 pm

This is a man with spirit and tenacity, just as I view someone like Jesus who can move mountains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veG67c--h0U
The antithesis of meekness, there, and through opposite a defining trait of meekness.
But are Christians or "Children of God" the only ones who have the will like this? Hell no. Those of "Darkness" can be as of this, and not to be underestimated. God lets Darkness reign all the time, don't forget. After all, it was created by God.

sandra wrote:The question is, Christ walked the earth thousands of years ago, how much
since do you think the Mind body and spirit of God and of Christ is now capable of?

Not much it isn't capable of but this capability is not only for certain people nor is it exactly beneficial to the meek. oppression.

Where are these perceptions going to come from, these new realities, how will
they be created and known?

They're already there to be seen with eyes to see.

If Christ said to us that he was going to his father
and after even greater things would be done in his name.... when will those
things come to light and how?

If they haven't already.


Who is going to be capable of first imagining
the perfection of this new life?

I'm not sure what you think perfection is. I've revised my definition a lot. Right now is perfect for me at least.

This is how we know who is not a child of God,
if Christ can't have them, they can't have themselves, so in other words.

So you in your mind segregate people into two compartments. I doubt it's that simple.


It is time that what will be shown is the strength in Christ which is
If he can't have you no one will and thats the way it has always been.

You mentioned Satan. You don't think Satan will have those whom Christ doesn't have on occasion? The temptation-force is omnipresent as well.


The destructive force of Love, is there such a thing?
Of course there is. If someone was hurting someone I Love, consider the amount of destruction that can be wrought.

Gods love sure feels good warm and fuzzy right.
I'm afraid so.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrO4YZeyl0I

I've never heard a song like this b4. What interesting timing. And I think it is how Jesus must view those who are caught in temptation, as the Love is unquenchable and unstoppable.



Can everyone in this moment
be a child of God and yet remain in darkness as a result of the light
and Gods plan for a new creation?

Ever hear of the prodigal son?

The Dark has no say what God wills and creates.
Nothing does.

Of course I am a child of Christ, and if you haven't figured that out as of yet, than you have never truly known ANY, you have never known ANY in the light of the TRUTH.
I have figured something out but it isn't to put you into ONE of TWO compartments that all people must fit within. Overly simplistic. I think highly of you and if there were two compartments people are in, you're definitely in the one you think you're in. Your focus determines your reality, but not mine.

Things of yourself have remained hidden. And you have fooled yourself into
believing you know the light of the TRUTH in CHRIST while being strong enough
to reject what YOU will.

Well I'm at least glad that you are trying to help but I am not broken or in need of fixing.

What you have rejected has not been the truth, if that
were the case, you would be the only one to accomplish the absolute impossible.
Even Satan believes he knows Christ. Believes he can avoid the love of Christ. :lol:

Oh rilly? :lol:
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Postby sandra » Mon Dec 20, 2010 3:47 am

at1with0 wrote:This is a man with spirit and tenacity, just as I view someone like Jesus who can move mountains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veG67c--h0U
The antithesis of meekness, there, and through opposite a defining trait of meekness.
But are Christians or "Children of God" the only ones who have the will like this? Hell no. Those of "Darkness" can be as of this, and not to be underestimated. God lets Darkness reign all the time, don't forget. After all, it was created by God.


6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and
against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

oh now wait a minute, whats heavenly realms got to do with that?

Why would spiritual forces of evil be in heavenly realms?


Christ says that people have had it soo rough their souls
have fallen asleep, now thats rough? Now thats knowing
evil? Being in darkness is knowing Evil? hmmm?

11:34 Your eye is the lamp of your body. When your eyes are good, your
whole body also is full of light. But when they are bad, your body also is
full of darkness.

What does that say?

Why does God let darkness reign as you put it?

Does the truth of ourselves mirror back reflections
we cannot always understand? How could
it be put into words the truth that our relation
to love will create everything and anything we
should ever know and experience being
part of One Body? Where in that body would
we want to be? Does the mind tell the body what
to do or does it not? What is the importance of mind
and matter to you?

I, therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, entreat you to walk in a manner worthy of the calling with which you have been called, 2 with all humility and gentleness, with patience, showing forbearance to one another in love, 3 being diligent to preserve the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ's gift. 8 Therefore it says, “When He ascended on high, He led captive a host of captives, And He gave gifts to men.” 9 Now this expression, “He ascended,” what does it mean except that He also had descended into the lower parts of the earth? 10 He who descended is Himself also He who ascended far above all the heavens, that He might fill all things. 11 And He gave some as apostles, and some as prophets, and some as evangelists, and some as pastors and teachers, 12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ; 13 until we all attain to the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a mature man, to the measure of the stature which belongs to the fulness of Christ. 14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves, and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming; 15 but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him, who is the head, even Christ, 16 from whom the whole body, being fitted and held together by that which every joint supplies, according to the proper working of each individual part, causes the growth of the body for the building up of itself in love.


Let me ask you something.
If we were to grow into the HEAD of CHRIST do you think we would know
the heavenly realms of EVIL, of darkness?

I know how high you think of me, in other words.

That lady gaga tune, in the video as she is dancing she even threw in there the sign of the cross, marking for the father the son and the holy spirit. Most people like the sound of the music right, doesn't mean they see or hear it for what it is.

You say if someone was hurting someone you love...?
Does Christ Love all of us?
Not for who we want to be, but for who ourselves are in truth, in our
relation to his love that is a part of us, whos burden is it anyways that we
should know any of these things? Maybe knowing evil is leaving
the mind of God. What leaves the Mind of God ends up leaving the Body.
If we are all part of the body, why have some of us remained
in realms considered to be of evil and it not be a reflection of
the truth of God, of Love? Why can the world not stop what
it is doing? Where is the truth in that?
Who is ever truly left to their own device.
What does it mean that God should know everything?
Is God just simply everything, what would it be like
to be human and be Jesus Christ the physical manifestation
of everything and anything in existence, Human and conscious
of your entire body down to the most finite and most infinite
and living with the understanding that no one could
ever entirely know you for everything that you were...
maybe we will all get to someday know love for everything
that it is and remain in it. Maybe that is the precise
reason we are still all growing up, maybe it is the reason
many of us often are or feel alone, not loved, angry,
hateful, jealous, abused, while sometimes we
experience joy happiness peace and love...
Who is to say that Christ cannot give us
all everything
that he is. And that to give us all everything
that he is, which is Love, takes great measure
of his own.

What is perfection to me? I think perfection is
in everything. It is the part inside of us
that wants nothing to do with the nonsense
of the world, but rather with the sense
of living freely.
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
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Postby at1with0 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:03 pm

sandra wrote:
at1with0 wrote:This is a man with spirit and tenacity, just as I view someone like Jesus who can move mountains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veG67c--h0U
The antithesis of meekness, there, and through opposite a defining trait of meekness.
But are Christians or "Children of God" the only ones who have the will like this? Hell no. Those of "Darkness" can be as of this, and not to be underestimated. God lets Darkness reign all the time, don't forget. After all, it was created by God.


6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and
against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.



For a second there I thought it was going to include the struggle within.


Since we're quoting so much, I'll include mine which your eyes might glaze over as mine do with all the frequent mentioning of Christ. Though I either already knew or disagreed with everything, I would never call you a fool.

Slave To The Cross by Deicide


Killing, blood spilling for faith in your god
Spreading the message defending his fraud
Murder unheard of until their belief
Rape of the willing is blessed by the priest
Travel to new worlds enslaved under god
Destroy their cultures then leave them to rot

Purification, consent to concede
Killing the ones who will never believe
Annihilation, convert to the cross
Civilization all under one god

SLAVE TO THE CROSS
SLAVE TO THE CROSS

Splitting masses in division
Genocidal inquisition
Unified through their religion
Wreck this world with heaven's wisdom

Reign of the cross, the aggressor
Has killed more people than cancer
Slave to the cross of deception
When will we stop his infection

SLAVE TO THE CROSS - SLAVE TO THE CROSS

Terrify into religion
Rectify the church ambition
Crucify who will not listen
Wreck this world with heaven's wisdom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P5WRI3FDCI

Killing is in the deprivation of eternal life. Jesus condones this. Therefore, supposedly, Jesus does not love those who don't meet the criteria as dreamed up by some people.
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Postby at1with0 » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:14 pm

I the Sun ov man
The offspring ov the stellar race
My halo fallen and crushed upon the earth
That I may bring balance to this world

I son ov perdition
From sheer nothingness transgressed
Unto the highest self -- to utmost freedom
To explore the starry nature ov my rage

I pulse ov existence
The law ov nature undenied
I hold the torch ov Heraclitus
So I can shake the earth and move the suns

I divine Iconoclast
Injecting chaos into my veins
With life accepted
With pain resurrected
Is the embrace ov god in man profound

The joy ov a dawn
The ecstasy ov dusk
Nourished have I this karmic flow
Where great above meets great below
Let it be written!
Let it be done!
Scattered I walk towards the fractured light

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AViJM56x8UY


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus

Heraclitus is famous for his doctrine of change being central to the universe, as stated in his famous saying, "You cannot step twice into the same river." He believed in the unity of opposites, stating that "the path up and down are one and the same," existing things being characterized by pairs of contrary properties, and other explorations of the concept of dualism. His cryptic utterance that "all things come to be in accordance with this Logos," (literally, "word," "reason," or "account") has been the subject of numerous interpretations.
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Postby sandra » Mon Dec 20, 2010 1:48 pm

at1with0 wrote:
sandra wrote:
at1with0 wrote:This is a man with spirit and tenacity, just as I view someone like Jesus who can move mountains.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veG67c--h0U
The antithesis of meekness, there, and through opposite a defining trait of meekness.
But are Christians or "Children of God" the only ones who have the will like this? Hell no. Those of "Darkness" can be as of this, and not to be underestimated. God lets Darkness reign all the time, don't forget. After all, it was created by God.


6:12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the
rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and
against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.



For a second there I thought it was going to include the struggle within.


Since we're quoting so much, I'll include mine which your eyes might glaze over as mine do with all the frequent mentioning of Christ. Though I either already knew or disagreed with everything, I would never call you a fool.

Slave To The Cross by Deicide


Killing, blood spilling for faith in your god
Spreading the message defending his fraud
Murder unheard of until their belief
Rape of the willing is blessed by the priest
Travel to new worlds enslaved under god
Destroy their cultures then leave them to rot

Purification, consent to concede
Killing the ones who will never believe
Annihilation, convert to the cross
Civilization all under one god

SLAVE TO THE CROSS
SLAVE TO THE CROSS

Splitting masses in division
Genocidal inquisition
Unified through their religion
Wreck this world with heaven's wisdom

Reign of the cross, the aggressor
Has killed more people than cancer
Slave to the cross of deception
When will we stop his infection

SLAVE TO THE CROSS - SLAVE TO THE CROSS

Terrify into religion
Rectify the church ambition
Crucify who will not listen
Wreck this world with heaven's wisdom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3P5WRI3FDCI

Killing is in the deprivation of eternal life. Jesus condones this. Therefore, supposedly, Jesus does not love those who don't meet the criteria as dreamed up by some people.


Nice one, therefore the love of Christ is not what has been thought, but is known in its
entirely when the greatest measure of darkness and the greatest measure of light
is known to be one in the same. In the head of Christ is a realm of peace, of calm,
with the knowledge and wisdom in understanding that the body too will become
calm and at peace once again. In the mind of God there is only Love for the body,
and who knows love for what it is other than God that he too at the end of the
day should only want to be loved for who he is. In the greatest darkness
and in the greatest light there are people slaves to both, and then there is Love,
free, the unchangeable within the changeable, the truth in the will. What is the
greatest darkness that the greatest light is not? Love is the unchangeable, and
is always present, to what depths can the mind see it, know it, feel it,
become one with it. How much of this do you know it for what it is?
Or is there a face value of your own love. A beginning and an end?
A limit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlWks8jTpBA
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
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Postby sandra » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:09 pm

Since we're quoting so much, I'll include mine which your eyes might glaze over as mine do with all the frequent mentioning of Christ. Though I either already knew or disagreed with everything, I would never call you a fool.


You have, over and over and over again. :lol:
Understandable.
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
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Postby sandra » Mon Dec 20, 2010 2:32 pm

There is no limit to Gods Love.
Not in the darkest of darks or the lightest of lights.
If we can not see it, we must not be very loving,
and those doors remain closed at a result
of our own relation to the will of all in Truth.
We see do and think things for reasons of
our own and the effects can kill us, make us sick,
make us sad, make us everything we do not want
to be, because we are not being what we should.
The Love of God is in all things, when we never
lose sight of Gods Love, there is NO darkness
that can get in the way of that perfection
as the will of God is omnipotent- The darker
the place, the better you had be able to see,
and you don't get to see Love in everything
without perfect vision. Become one with what it
is, find what love has to do with it, and you
might find yourself everywhere and anywhere.
What does love have
to do with everything that I should never shut up
about it... everything.

We are becoming a near sighted people..
the kingdom of God is the kingdom to everything.
When you find that kingdom, no one or nothing
is outside of it. Love is all there is because
Love is the only thing we have become.
When love is all we have left to lose,
when all we have left to lose is the will of
God which cannot be lost but rather always
found. What do you know about maintaining
such a point in consciousness other than
these things being a figment of your
imagination at the clear indication of the
stretch of your own will in accordance with
truth in the ultimate reality, the pinnacle
of all pinnacles, the fire of all encompassing
fires?
“Living backwards!” Alice repeated in great
astonishment. “I never heard of such a thing!”
“—but there’s one great advantage in it, that one’s
memory works both ways.”
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