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Postby sandra » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:49 am

US: $3B to end royalty dispute with Indian tribes

Written by Associated Press
Wednesday, 09 December 2009 10:38

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WASHINGTON (AP) – The Obama administration on Dec. 8 proposed spending more than $3 billion to settle claims dating back more than a century that American Indian tribes were swindled out of royalties for oil, gas, grazing and other leases.
Under the agreement, the Interior Department would distribute $1.4 billion to more than 300,000 Indian tribe citizens to compensate them for historical accounting claims and to resolve future claims. The government also would spend $2 billion to buy back and consolidate tribal land broken up in previous generations. The program would allow individual tribe citizens to obtain cash payments for land interests divided among numerous family members and return the land to tribal control.
The settlement also would create a scholarship account of up to $60 million for tribal citizens to attend college or vocational school.
If cleared by Congress and a federal judge, the settlement would be the largest Indian claim ever approved against the U.S. government – exceeding the combined total of all previous settlements of Indian claims.
In 2008, a federal judge ruled that the Indian plaintiffs are entitled to $455 million, a fraction of the $47 billion or more the tribes have said they are owed for leases that have been overseen by the Interior Department since 1887.
President Barack Obama said settlement of the case, known as Cobell v. Salazar, was an important step to reconcile decades of acrimony between Indian tribes and the federal government.
“As a candidate, I heard from many in Indian Country that the Cobell suit remained a stain on the nation-to-nation relationship I value so much,” Obama said Dec. 8 in a written statement. “I pledged my commitment to resolving this issue, and I am proud that my administration has taken this step today.”
Interior Secretary Ken Salazar called settlement of the 13-year-old case a top priority for him and Obama and said the administration worked for many months to reach a settlement that is both honorable and responsible.
“This historic step will allow Interior to move forward and address the educational, law enforcement, and economic development challenges we face in Indian Country,” Salazar said.
Elouise Cobell, a citizen of the Blackfeet Tribe from Montana who was the lead plaintiff in the case, called the proposed settlement crucial for hundreds of thousand of Native Americans who have suffered for more than a century through mismanagement of the Indian trust.
“Today is a monumental day for all of the people in Indian Country who have waited so long for justice,” said Cobell, who appeared at a news conference with Salazar, Attorney General Eric Holder and other U.S. officials.
“Did we get all the money that was due us? Probably not,” Cobell said, but added: “There’s too many individual Indian beneficiaries who are dying every single day without their money.”
The proposed settlement affects tribes across the country, including virtually every recognized tribe west of the Mississippi River. Tribes in North Dakota, South Dakota, Oklahoma and Montana are especially affected by the breakup of Indian land into small parcels, said Keith Harper, a lawyer who represents the plaintiffs.
The settlement would give every Indian tribe citizen with an Interior Department account an immediate check for $1,000, with additional payments to be determined later under a complicated formula that takes into account a variety of factors. Many tribal citizens also would receive payments for parcels of land that are held in some cases by up to 100 family members, in an effort to consolidate tribal land and make it more useful and easier to manage.
The settlement does not include a formal apology for any wrongdoing by the U.S. government, but does contain language in which U.S. officials acknowledge a “breach of trust” on Indian land issues.
An apology “would have been nice,” Cobell said, but was less important than settling the dispute. “Actions are more important to me than apologies,” she said.

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Postby Cole_Trickle » Tue Dec 15, 2009 8:23 am

Do you have any thoughts of your own on this? I'm curious!

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Postby sandra » Tue Dec 15, 2009 12:59 pm

well I have very mixed feelings. On one hand this is 3billion dollars, on the other, tribes claim they are owed somewhere around 40billion......on another note***There are many american indian tribes not even federally recognized, thats where I would start for "a nation-to-nation relationship" that obama values so much.

Every year around Christmas time I start getting donation requests from tribes who have elders dying from having no heating source and so forth, why haven't the other american indian tribes stepped in. American Indian tribes claim their soveirnty, but listen, by no means are most american indians living a simple pure traditional...take and give to mother earth type a life. American Indian governement has turned more corrupt than most can imagine. My cousin is Melanie Benjamin, she was the chief of my tribe Mille Lacs Band of Ojibwe for several several years until I even signed a petition throwing her out of office for "mismanaged funds", she and our elder "spiritual advisor", were taking money from community development and other tribe resources for their personal gain when both had already been living one hella life.,,,,,gold toilet seat in a cedar mansion.

My tribe already has the funding for my college education (i pay nothing for college) and even receive living expense money, do I appreciate this...omg yes, do I feel other american people deserve these opportunities just as much, yes. If per cap does not change, my son alone will receive more than 250,000 on his 18th bday, cash, from being a mille lacs band member. If per cap rises,,,,which now it could in bonus payments, who knows, and what does an 18 yr old do with this kind of money. Use your imagination. yiiiikes....they arent worrying about college funds, or health care, it turns into BOOZE fest. Not gnna happen.

Im curious to see how much of this money will be used for what its meant, and how many american indians will even be aware of this settlement.....will it also go into per cap bonus payments, or into new "programs that NO ONE FRIGGIN USES", resources....thats where the embezzlements can be covered.

While some people will receive 'parcels for land payments', what about the people that had to sell a certain quantum of their family blood to get land in the first place, and now their decendants do not even qualify for tribal enrollement and will not be benefiting from anything. The atrocities of tribal enrollments and base rolls are a whole nother dispute on whats gone on for ndn people.

My thoughts are endless but I will not give up trying to see a bttr day for Indian people out there really fighting for 'a good life'. There are some american indians I know that have refused to even enroll themselves in their tribe, they want nothing to do with governement, or selling their real identity.....Federally recognized indians carry around tribal member cards,,,,they are the only people to be defined by blood quantum in government and so forth.
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Postby Cole_Trickle » Wed Dec 16, 2009 7:15 am

I'm sure most will be aware of the settlement. But like you say, what will they do with it is anyone's guess.

I appreciate your honesty as well as the insight.

Not many of Toady's youth know much about the American Indian, I find that a real pity. Most school systems don't really teach much of the real history associated with the American Indian. They offer up watered down versions for some stupid reason.

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Postby frrostedman » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:52 am

Cole_Trickle wrote: Not many of Toady's youth know much about the American Indian, I find that a real pity. Most school systems don't really teach much of the real history associated with the American Indian. They offer up watered down versions for some stupid reason.

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Not to politicize this, but, there is a progressive agenda in our schools to erase anything they don't like from our history. We slaughtered Indians in cold blood? Ok, then quit teaching it and after several generations it will never have happened. We were founded as a nation by God-fearing, bible-toting believers? Expunge any mention of it in the books... and remove the Declaration of Independence from the walls because it mentions a Creator. Heck, they are even testing a new pledge of allegiance... coming soon to a school near you:

"I pledge allegiance
to the Earth
and all the life which it supports.
One planet,
in our care,
irreplaceable,
with sustenance and respect for all."

This is already posted in a 2nd grade classroom (next to a book about Obama's dog).

http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/198/29820/

I don't mind us pledging to take care of Earth, but lets not remove the original pledge of allegiance entirely. Why do that. Oh yeah, because it says something about a Creator.
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Postby rath » Sat Dec 19, 2009 8:17 am

US: $3B to end royalty dispute with Indian tribes


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Postby AlphaOmega » Mon Jan 11, 2010 7:58 am

Not to politicize this, but, there is a progressive agenda in our schools to erase anything they don't like from our history. We slaughtered Indians in cold blood? Ok, then quit teaching it and after several generations it will never have happened. We were founded as a nation by God-fearing, bible-toting believers? Expunge any mention of it in the books... and remove the Declaration of Independence from the walls because it mentions a Creator. Heck, they are even testing a new pledge of allegiance... coming soon to a school near you:

"I pledge allegiance
to the Earth
and all the life which it supports.
One planet,
in our care,
irreplaceable,
with sustenance and respect for all."

This is already posted in a 2nd grade classroom (next to a book about Obama's dog).


3 words for you on this pledge "NEW WORLD ORDER"
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Postby Dark-Samus » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:11 am

They dont give a crap about money, stay out of the FOREST!
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Postby dumberthanb4 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 5:27 pm

Something everyone needs to know before they gasp at the amount, whatever financial settlements are given to native tribes, the tribe only receives one penny on the dollar of the amount that is awarded. 99 cents goes to the BIA ( bureu of indian affairs ) and gets routed back to the original government funding source. The news never publishes this because they want people to hate each other over things like this. It's more of the divide and conquer principle. Never believe what you read in the news. The gov is still partaking in the genocide of the native people to this day. You really have no idea.

Another thing most people don't know is that tribes cannot have casinos without gov consent even though they are supposed to be sovereign. The majority of tribes never receive permission. Other tribes are blackmailed. They are awarded compensation for past treaties only if they allow nuclear waste to be deposited onto their land or other haneous deals. This has had devestating results.

Why don't they move to be able to feed their families ? Because if there are not a certain amount of people living on the res our gov will take the land and declare the tribe extinct. Not many people know that either.
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Postby sandra » Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:58 pm

Very good post on the subject dumber, and welcome to the black vault, hope you stick around here for many more. I can't say much right now, as I am headed out the door, its friiiiday. ;)
But yes, I was aware of all those things you had to say, thanks for speaking them, its good for people to know. I've lived on a reservation for more than half my life, all my dads family is there, and I'm there atleast a few times a month. Right now Im living down town in Minnesota. Besides living on reservation (lake lena district 3 of mille lacs band) and (danbury wisconsin st croix ndns), I have visited close to all the rest in the Minnesota, Wisconsin, and South Dakota area, plus many more throughout the states. Each reservation is subject to different obstacles with the government and surrounding community, as well as by their own jurisdiction. I'll write more, tomorrow. gtta go.
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