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Postby greeney2 » Fri Mar 02, 2012 7:56 pm

Where have you been? Catch the Flu or something! :lol:
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Postby Nesaie » Sat Mar 03, 2012 1:10 pm

Nope, no flu. I moved cities...maybe a midlife crisis or something. :D
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Postby capricorn » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:40 pm

Came across this link today from the British Medical Journal

Commentary on the Article:
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) uses a manufactured number of 36,000 annual deaths from seasonal flu in order to scare the masses into accepting a harmful chemical cocktail, all to the benefit of Big Pharma and the medical community. But all you’ve been told about flu deaths and the flu vaccines — in fact, about vaccines in general — is a lie.

In December 2005, Peter Doshi published a report in the British Medical Journal (online) stating that “U.S. data on influenza deaths are a mess.” His research indicated the CDC uses the terms “flu death” and “flu associated death” interchangeably and that there were significant statistical incompatibilities between official estimates and national vital statistics data.

In fact, the CDC’s numbers are a combination of influenza and pneumonia deaths. But as David Rosenthal, director of Harvard University Health Services, said: “People don’t necessarily die, per se, of the [flu] virus—the viraemia. What they die of is a secondary pneumonia. So many of these pneumonias are not viral pneumonias but secondary [pneumonias].”

What Doshi found was that in 2001, influenza and pneumonia caused 62,034 deaths. Of those, 61,777 were attributed to pneumonia; only 257 were attributed to the flu. But in the 257 cases blamed on the flu, the flu virus was identified in only 18.

Doshi writes: “Between 1979 and 2001 [CDC] data show an average of 1,248 [flu] deaths per year (range 257 to 3,006).” This obviously is far less than the 36,000 figure used to frighten people into rushing to get a vaccination.

For a better idea of how vaccine-pushing researchers create numbers out of thin air, consider the recent announcement by an international team of researchers regarding deaths from the swine flu pandemic-that-wasn’t in 2009. According to the World Health Organization, 18,500 people died worldwide as a result of swine flu. That’s far short of the hundreds of thousands of deaths WHO warned about as the pandemic-that-wasn’t first began.

The researchers published a study in the Lancet Infectious Diseases journal claiming an estimated 284,500 to 575,400 actually died of the disease. It provided no autopsy data for its claim, nor did it explain how family members of those 265,500 to 526,400 people failed to miss them for three whole years or what happened to all the bodies.

In addition to the inflated figures about the dangers of seasonal flu, the CDC also fails to mention that seasonal flu vaccines are ineffective 99 percent of the time. Two years ago, I wrote about a report by the independent research firm The Cochrane Library (TCL) that blew a big hole in the CDC/Big Pharma vaccine lie. Now, The Lancet has published a report that echoes TCL’s report.

It showed that 2.7 percent of 13,000 unvaccinated adults caught the flu virus, while 1.2 percent of 13,000 vaccinated adults caught the virus. That means that the vaccine prevented only 1.5 of every 100 adults from getting sick.

Researchers also found that:

The vaccine had no effect on hospital admissions or complication rates.
Vaccine use did not affect the number of people hospitalized or working days lost.
Reliable evidence on vaccine efficacy is thin, but there is evidence of widespread manipulation of conclusions (in fact, TCL’s report is based mostly on pharmaceutical company-sponsored research that, when analyzed, still showed the vaccines didn’t work as claimed).
Vaccines do not affect the transmission of disease, even though their stated purpose is to reduce transmission of disease.
In average conditions (which means a partially matching vaccine) and because the WHO has to guess which strain of flu will be most prevalent in the coming year, 100 people must be vaccinated to prevent one set of flu symptoms.
The CDC — as well as doctors and pharmacies, which get kickbacks on the vaccines and drugs they administer — also fails to divulge what harmful additives are found in vaccines and the side effects that can result.

Flu vaccines contain aluminum, formaldehyde and thimerosal. Side effects of the vaccines include narcolepsy, Guillain-Barre Syndrome and autism, plus a worsening of the flu’s affects. British Columbia Centre for Disease Control researcher Dr. Danuta Skowronski conducted a trial study with 32 ferrets that showed that the symptoms in vaccinated animals were worse than those in unvaccinated animals.

“The findings were consistent with the increased risk that we saw in the human studies,” Skowronski said.

Aluminum is added to vaccines to act as an immune adjuvant, which enhances the immune response — and thus boosts the immune system — or to make it react as intensely as possible for as long as possible. But aluminum has been linked to Parkinson’s disease, ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease) and Alzheimer’s disease. Researchers have also found that vaccinations with aluminum-containing adjuvants could trigger the cascade of immunological events associated with autoimmune conditions, including chronic fatigue syndrome and macrophagic myofasciitis, a condition that resembles multiple sclerosis.

Formaldehyde is used to kill and preserve bacterial toxins and make viruses unable to replicate or reproduce themselves. It is listed as a carcinogen by government scientists and warnings are issued about formaldehyde exposure from fumes emanating from plywood and particle board and for workers exposed to it in funeral homes and hair salons. But formaldehyde and its chemical kin, formalin, is present in most vaccines.

Thimerosal is a preservative that allows vaccine makers to distribute their vaccines in multi-dose vials. Thimerosal contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight. But mercury is classified as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Mercury tends to accumulate in the brain; and it has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and other nervous-system disorders.

And while doctors readily try to force — or at least coerce — vaccinations on their patients, half of them reject vaccinations for themselves because of concerns the vaccines may harm their health.

Of course, Big Pharma no longer has to concern itself about the health effects of its vaccines. Lawmakers have exempted them from liability, and the U.S. Supreme Court has ruled the laws shield vaccine makers from product-liability lawsuits that are filed in State courts and seek damages for injuries or death attributed to vaccines.

There is a much safer way to keep yourself disease-free. Take vitamin D3 (I take 30,000 IU daily and give my wife 20,000 IU) daily. It is a potent neuroregulatory steroidal hormone that influences nearly 3,000 of our 25,000 genes.

Besides, the germ theory of disease — that we “catch” the flu and other diseases by being exposed to people who are “contagious” — is a foolish hoax created by Louis Pasteur. Disease comes from within the body when it is overly fatigued with excess stress, toxins and malnutrition.
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Postby Nesaie » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:45 am

Disease comes from within the body when it is overly fatigued with excess stress, toxins and malnutrition.


Vaccines have never really proven themselves. The Saulk vaccine never got rid of polio, they just changed the name to meningitis. All vaccines are based on that one Saulk vaccine. It's easier to get passed through and approved. Then they add things like mercury as a preservative.

One of the "side effects" of a flu vaccine is "flu like symptoms" for a week or two. long does the flu last?

You wanna be imune from the flu? Eat right (that is a whole different subject). Get your vitamin D3 in the winter and sun in the summer. Try to relax, life is only temporary. And LAUGH! :D
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Postby greeney2 » Tue Jun 03, 2014 12:50 pm

This thread died out a long time ago, maybe because no one was vaccinated :lol:

Saw this this morning and it reminded me of this debate. the rise of statistics in measles, mumps, whooping cough, etc. and how the movement to NOT vaccinate comes from. Appears to be baseless in theory by measuring the results in cases. Apparently a lot more ideas than actual medical data has led to all the non-vaccination theories. It is a comedy skit, but with an actual message behind it from real statistics. Worth the watch anyway. ... 00792.html
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Postby greeney2 » Wed Jan 21, 2015 1:00 pm

This has been a dead subject for a while, but the idea of no vaccinations is really in the news now. An outbreak of measles in California is spreading, and traced to Disneyland. This morning I read 5 Disneyland employees also got it, and many are told to take paid leaves until they are clear. The disease is now spreading, and is very dangerous to potential life threatening to some.

In true political correctness form, the blame was being put onto "those who do not believe in vaccinations, and those who believe in the theory of autism caused by them". What is not said, which would be one more nail in Obama's immigration policy, is that 10 million undocumented people are in this country, enrolling kids by law in our schools, and many or most of them DO NOT have vaccinations.

When my kids were young and went to school, we had to show and verify they had all these standard vaccination, including measles, mumps & rubella, the polio vaccination. If you did not have them current, you could not enroll. OUr kids went to private schools and this was a requirement, not sure about the public schools in those days, I think now they can not force them or refuse admission.

What cause this to occur from Disneyland? Obviously a place of world travelers, people coming into the USA and leaving after a vacation, Las Vegas is similar in that context. My daughter who worked in the Ex Caliber restaurants was required to have shots and the hepatitis vaccinations, or she could not work there. I am surprised 5 Disneyland employees were affected, very surprised they would not require vaccinations working with so many world wide visitors. that can bring it in and take it out of the country.

In short, there is no proof vaccinations cause autism, and more than proof vaccinations have saved millions and millions of lives. We are taking steps backwards now in not requiring them in schools, and in jobs with such direct contact with the public, especially those dealing with world wide tourism.

Vaccinate your kids for their sake and for the sake of the kids in the next desk.
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