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Postby blackvault » Sat Dec 29, 2012 9:30 am

Oh look... more guns in households across my state... and yet.. less deaths and injuries.

Hmmmm... that couldn't be right. :wave:


Sacramento Bee wrote:California gun sales jump; gun injuries, deaths fall

By Phillip Reese

Gun deaths and injuries have dropped sharply in California, even as the number of guns sold in the state has risen, according to new state data.

Dealers sold 600,000 guns in California last year, up from 350,000 in 2002, according to records of sale tallied by the California Attorney General's office.

During that same period, the number of California hospitalizations due to gun injuries declined from about 4,000 annually to 2,800, a roughly 25 percent drop, according to hospital records collected by the California Department of Public Health.

Firearm-related deaths fell from about 3,200 annually to about 2,800, an 11 percent drop, state health figures show.

Most of the drop in firearm-related injuries and deaths can be explained by a well-documented, nationwide drop in violent crime.

The number of California injuries and deaths attributed to accidental discharge of firearms also has fallen. The number of suicide deaths involving firearms has remained roughly constant.

Two caveats: State figures track gun sales, not ownership. They treat a family's first gun purchase the same as a collector's twelfth. Second, gun sales in California peaked in the early 1990s, as violent crime also peaked.

These charts show gun injuries, deaths and sales trends over the last ten years.

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Sources: California Attorney General's office; California Department of Public Health

© Copyright The Sacramento Bee. All rights reserved.


Source: http://www.sacbee.com/2012/12/27/507915 ... rylink=cpy
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Postby at1with0 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 10:52 am

ain't arguing with rath swell? :wall:
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Postby capricorn » Sat Dec 29, 2012 1:04 pm

blackvault wrote:Oh, and one last thing. Have a pleasant day :)

And... Thanks for coming. :lol:
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Postby greeney2 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 2:42 pm

The odds of being murdered, You have a nearly 10 times greater chance of fatally falling in the shower, equal chance of fireworks injury, 3 times greater chance of injury shaving, 6 times greater chance being injured mowing the lawn. We obsess over lighting and shark attacks, while the odds of self inflicted deaths are twice as many to murders. You have an equal chance of being killed in a car or falling, yet we do not require helmets for driving or walking.

Lets put in proper perspective:

Strange Odds


Strange Odds


Odds that a person between the age of 18 and 29 does NOT read a newspaper regularly: 3 to 1

Odds that an American adult does not want to live to age 120 under any circumstances: 3 to 2

Odds of injury from fireworks: 19,556 to 1

Odds of injury from shaving: 6,585 to 1

Odds of injury from using a chain saw: 4,464 to 1

Odds of injury from mowing the lawn: 3,623 to 1

Odds of fatally slipping in bath or shower: 2,232 to 1

Odds of drowning in a bathtub: 685,000 to 1

Odds of being killed on a 5-mile bus trip: 500,000,000 to 1

Odds of being killed sometime in the next year in any sort of transportation accident: 77 to 1

Odds of being killed in any sort of non-transportation accident: 69 to 1

Odds of being struck by lightning: 576,000 to 1

Odds of being killed by lightning: 2,320,000 to 1

Odds of being murdered: 18,000 to 1

Odds of getting away with murder: 2 to 1

Odds of being the victim of serious crime in your lifetime: 20 to 1

Odds of dating a supermodel: 88,000 to 1

Odds of being considered possessed by Satan: 7,000 to 1

Odds that a first marriage will survive without separation or divorce for 15 years: 1.3 to 1

Odds that a celebrity marriage will last a lifetime: 3 to 1

Odds of getting hemorrhoids: 25 to 1

Odds of being born a twin in North America: 90 to 1

Odds of being on plane with a drunken pilot: 117 to 1

Odds of being audited by the IRS: 175 to 1

Odds of having your identity stolen: 200 to 1

Odds of dating a millionaire: 215 to 1

Odds of dating a supermodel: 88,000 to 1

Odds of writing a New York Times best seller: 220 to 1

Odds of finding out your child is a genius: 250 to 1 ( I did this one twice) :lol:

Odds of catching a ball at a major league ballgame: 563 to 1

Odds of becoming a pro athlete: 22,000 to 1

Odds of finding a four-leaf clover on first try: 10,000 to 1

Odds of a person in the military winning the Medal of Honor: 11,000 to 1

Odds of winning an Academy Award: 11,500 to 1

Odds of striking it rich on Antiques Roadshow: 60,000 to 1

Odds of getting a royal flush in poker on first five cards dealt: 649,740 to 1

Odds of spotting a UFO today: 3,000,000 to 1

Odds of becoming president: 10,000,000 to 1

Odds of winning the California lottery: 13,000,000 to 1

Odds of becoming a saint: 20,000,000 to 1

Odds of a meteor landing on your house: 182,138,880,000,000 to 1

Chance of an American home having at least one container of ice cream in the freezer: 9 in 10.

Chance of dying from any kind of injury during the next year: 1 in 1,820

Chance of dying from intentional self-harm: 1 in 9,380

Chance of dying from an assault: 1 in 16,421

Chance of dying from a car accident: 1 in 18,585

Chance of dying from any kind of fall: 1 in 20,666

Chance of dying from accidental drowning: 1 in 79,065

Chance of dying from exposure to smoke, fire, and flames: 1 in 81,524

Chance of dying in an explosion: 1 in 107,787

Chance that Earth will experience a catastrophic collision with an asteroid in the next 100 years: 1 in 5,000

Chance of dying in such a collision: 1 in 20,000

Chance of dying from exposure to forces of nature (heat, cold, lightning, earthquake, flood): 1 in 225,107

Chance of dying in an airplane accident: 1 in 354,319

Chance of dying from choking on food: 1 in 370,035

Chance of dying in a terrorist attack while visiting a foreign country: 1 in 650,000

Chance of dying in a fireworks accident: 1 in 1,000,000

Chance of dying from overexertion, travel or privation: 1 in 1,428,377

Chance of dying from food poisoning: 1 in 3,000,000

Chance of dying from legal execution: 1 in 3,441,325

Chance of dying from contact with hot tap water: 1 in 5,005,564

Chance of dying from parts falling off an airplane: 1 in 10,000,000

Chance of dying from ignition or melting of nightwear: 1 in 30,589,556

Chance of dying from being bitten by a dog: 1 in 700,000

Chance of dying from contact with a venomous animal or plant: 1 in 3,441,325

Chance of dying from being bitten or struck by mammals (other than dogs or humans): 1 in 4,235,477

Chance of dying from a mountain lion attack in California: 1 in 32,000,000

Chance of dying from a shark attack: 1 in 300,000,000

Chance of having a stroke: 1 in 6

Chance of dying from heart disease: 1 in 3

Chance of getting arthritis: 1 in 7

Chance of suffering from asthma or allergy diseases: 1 in 6

Chance of getting the flu this year: 1 in 10

Chance of developing schizophrenia: 1 in 00

Chance of contracting the human version of mad cow disease: 1 in 40,000,000

Chance of dying from SARS in the United States: 1 in 100,000,000

Chance of American man developing cancer in his lifetime: 1 in 2

Chance of an American woman developing cancer in her lifetime: 1 in 3

Chance of getting prostate cancer: 1 in 6

Chance of getting breast cancer: 1 in 9

Chance of getting colon / rectal cancer: 1 in 26

Chance of beating pancreatic or liver cancer: 1 in 9

Chance of beating thyroid or testicular cancer: 9 in 10
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Postby at1with0 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:29 pm

I wonder what the odds are of one school being the stage for a mass murder.

According to this
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
there are at least 100,000 schools in the USA.

That would put the odds at around 1 in 100,000 or .001%.
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Postby hxxx » Sat Dec 29, 2012 4:02 pm

Hmmm.

How bout the odds of an American in America suffering violence caused by a terrorist?

Lemme guess, the astronomical odds are because of the gazillions we've spent :roll:
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Postby blackvault » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:39 pm

at1with0 wrote:I wonder what the odds are of one school being the stage for a mass murder.

According to this
http://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=84
there are at least 100,000 schools in the USA.

That would put the odds at around 1 in 100,000 or .001%.


Actually, I think that would be wildly inaccurate. You didn't calculate the rate of which mass school murders occur.

Your stat would be right if you calculated the "odds of a school shooting on 12/14/12 [or a single day]". That doesn't happen every day. So, you need to calculate the frequency of said "mass shooting." I think the odds would be MUCH greater.
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Postby at1with0 » Sat Dec 29, 2012 7:43 pm

The assumption was one mass shooting per year. If there are n mass shootings, then the probability would then be n in 100,000...which is at least 1 in 100,000.
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Postby rath » Sun Dec 30, 2012 3:51 am

blackvault wrote:
Rath wrote:Another web site with no accreditation being run bay a fat kid ( future mass murder ) on his moms computer.

All these reports are just last ditch attempts by a desperate group of psychopath gun owners.


You know, it's sad when you say something like the above. Actually, really sad. Do you even know who runs The Blaze? Do you know the impact that the "fat kid" you reference had on television here in America? He set television records, and has a HUGE following here in America and across the world. In fact, this "fat kid" in a very short amount of time, has achieved being within the top 1,000 sites IN THE WORLD (Source: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theblaze.com) and in the top 250 in the U.S. Not bad for a "fat kid" on mommy's computer, huh rath?

Not to long ago, you reference "Slander & liable" [sic] (Source) in one of your posts. It's actually "libel and slander". Yet, you reference one of the most powerful names in journalism, and say "future mass murder". :?: :?:

I think my sourced facts and figures speak for themselves. But, maybe I am just a desperate "fat man" too on mommy's computer.

Does that make someone like you feel better? Just out of curiosity. Down under, you can live in "fantasyland." Here in America, some of us anyway, want to live in the real world where 1+1 equals 2 and all that jazz.


Oh so much to reply to & oh so little time .... Ill have to get back to you in the new year.

But i can't leave without point out your comment on Slander & libel ....... It can be said either way Slander & libel. Or Libel or Slander. as they are both very different things.

It's like running & walking you can also say walking & running. :thumbup:

Oh & a pleasant day to you as-well kind sir.

& a Happy New year as-well.
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Postby rath » Sun Dec 30, 2012 5:54 am

blackvault wrote:you reference one of the most powerful names in journalism, and say "future mass murder". :?: :?:

I think my sourced facts and figures speak for themselves. But, maybe I am just a desperate "fat man" too on mommy's computer.

Does that make someone like you feel better? Just out of curiosity. Down under, you can live in "fantasyland." Here in America, some of us anyway, want to live in the real world where 1+1 equals 2 and all that jazz.


One of the most powerful names in journalism ..... :lol: Hardly. ( maybe in the USA ..... but not globally )

One of the top 1000 web sites in the world ..... :lol: Hardly. ( maybe top 1000 in the USA ) but nowhere near the top sites on the net.
For example ( Google, Microsoft, News corporation, Wiki-leaks )

blackvault wrote:
Rath wrote:Another web site with no accreditation being run bay a fat kid ( future mass murder ) on his moms computer.

All these reports are just last ditch attempts by a desperate group of psychopath gun owners.


You know, it's sad when you say something like the above. Actually, really sad. Do you even know who runs The Blaze? Do you know the impact that the "fat kid" you reference had on television here in America? He set television records, and has a HUGE following here in America and across the world. In fact, this "fat kid" in a very short amount of time, has achieved being within the top 1,000 sites IN THE WORLD (Source: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/theblaze.com) and in the top 250 in the U.S. Not bad for a "fat kid" on mommy's computer, huh rath?

Not to long ago, you reference "Slander & liable" [sic] (Source) in one of your posts. It's actually "libel and slander". Yet, you reference one of the most powerful names in journalism, and say "future mass murder". :?: :?:

I think my sourced facts and figures speak for themselves. But, maybe I am just a desperate "fat man" too on mommy's computer.

Does that make someone like you feel better? Just out of curiosity. Down under, you can live in "fantasyland." Here in America, some of us anyway, want to live in the real world where 1+1 equals 2 and all that jazz.


Oh so much to reply to & oh so little time .... Ill have to get back to you in the new year.

But i can't leave without point out your comment on Slander & libel ....... It can be said either way Slander & libel. Or Libel or Slander. as they are both very different things.

It's like running & walking you can also say walking & running. :thumbup:

Oh & a pleasant day to you as-well kind sir.
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