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Postby rath » Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:53 pm

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US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has told an audience in Perth that the American influence on Asia is "here to stay".

Mrs Clinton arrived in Perth yesterday for annual strategy and policy talks with Prime Minister Julia Gillard, Foreign Minister Bob Carr and Defence Minister Stephen Smith.

At the launch of a new US-Australasian think tank last night, Mrs Clinton gave a speech about the important relationship between the US, Australia and other countries in the region.

The Perth USAsia Centre will focus on economic, cultural and defence strategies in the region.

Mrs Clinton said the US has always had a presence in the region and considers itself a Pacific power.

She said that presence would only get stronger.

"In the 21st century it's important that we make absolutely clear we are here to stay," she said.

She highlighted the growing importance of India's contribution to the region.

"We would welcome joint Australian-Indian naval vessel exercises in the future," she said.

"It's exciting to see the developments as the world's largest democracy and a dynamic emerging economy begins to contribute more broadly to the region," she said.

Mrs Clinton said that with Australia surrounded by the Pacific and Indian oceans it was no surprise foreign investment was booming in the country.

"The oil, the natural gas, the iron ore produced here that flows through the trade routes to the entire world," she said.

Mrs Clinton said the US supported the peaceful rise of China and hoped to see a gradual opening up of the country.

"And [a] political system that will more closely give the Chinese people the opportunities that we in the United States and Australia are lucky to take for granted," she said.

Mrs Clinton says she wants to see China become a responsible stakeholder in the international community.

Weapons protest
Mrs Clinton will today attend the annual AUSMIN talks where the rotation of US marines in Darwin will be among the issues discussed.

She is due to meet Senator Carr and Mr Smith at a venue in Perth's Kings Park.

Human rights activists will stage a protest on the outskirts of Kings Park to coincide with the visit.

Members of organisations, including Amnesty International and Oxfam, will use the meeting to lobby for tough new rules on the international weapons trade.

Ming Yu from Amnesty International says it is a rare chance to send a direct message to Mrs Clinton.

"It was Hillary Clinton that formally announced on behalf of the US in 2009 it would engage in establishing a global arms trade treaty that would basically try to stop weapons falling into the wrong hands," she said.

"So we appeal to Mrs Clinton to ensure she does uphold that pledge she made."

She says they want Mrs Clinton to support a tougher arms treaty at a coming United Nations meeting.

"The purpose of the Arms Trade Treaty is to say that when weapons are likely to fall into the wrong hands, or used to commit serious human rights violations," she said.

"These weapons should not be transferred to that country. So we're asking the US to set a strong example because it is the world's largest arms exporter."

Mrs Clinton has been given the keys to the city of Perth in recognition of her leadership and achievements.
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Postby rath » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 am

rath wrote:US secretary of state Hillary Clinton has told an audience in Perth that the American influence on Asia is "here to stay"..



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:roll:

U.S influence in Asia ...... What influence.

That's why the USA & Canada' keeps begging Australia to get the them onto the many Asian economic trade groups, because the USA is Broke & has zero influence to trade with Asian nation's.

Europe is no better, having blocked Asia & Australian company's from their markets for so long, ....... Now Europe & North America are behaving like $2 whores .......

Begging Asian & Pacific nations for trade Scraps to feed their poor & fix their economy's. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Only problem is your actions are 20 years to late.

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Postby rath » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:06 am

Clinton encourages Australia-India relationship.

November 13, 2012

US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has lauded Australia’s burgeoning relationship with India and encouraged Australia to deepen its military co-operation – including through joint-naval exercises – with the world’s largest democracy.

In her first remarks on a visit to Perth for high-level talks with the Gillard government, Mrs Clinton gave China relatively short shrift in her speech at the University of Western Australia, saying only that “we look for ways to support the peaceful rise of China”.

Mrs Clinton is in Perth for AUSMIN, where she will discuss deepening co-operation between Australia and the US as her nation looks to “pivot” its strategic focus to Asia. US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta is also in the city for the talks Wednesday with Australia’s Defence Minister Stephen Smith and Foreign Minister Bob Carr.

Hailing India as the “world’s largest democracy and a dynamic emerging economy”, Mrs Clinton welcomed Australia’s “burgeoning relationship” with the country.


“We would welcome joint Australia-Indian naval vessel exercises in the future and we’re eager to work together in the Indian Ocean Rim Association for Regional Co-operation,” she said, referring to the grouping of 19 Indian rim nations.

She also said the US had made a strategic priority of encouraging Delhi to play a larger role in world affairs.

Earlier, Mr Smith spoke enthusiastically about the key strategic role the Indian Ocean would play in future global affairs as he flagged that Wednesday’s talks would include preliminary discussion of greater US naval access to Perth’s HMAS Stirling base.

Mrs Clinton took up the same theme, saying of the Indian Ocean: “Increasingly, these waters are at the heart of the global economy and a key focus of America’s expanding engagement in the region – what we sometimes call our pivot to Asia.”

By contrast with India, Mrs Clinton spoke only briefly of China, Australia’s largest trading partner.

“We look for ways to support the peaceful rise of China, to support China becoming a responsible stakeholder in the international community,” she said.

“And (we) hope to see gradual but consistent opening up of a Chinese society and political system that will more closely give the Chinese people the opportunities that we in the United States and Australia are lucky to take for granted.”



http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political ... tmlHillary
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Postby rath » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:50 am

How Stupid is Hillary Clinton & the USA.

Does the USA really think Australia is going to cut trade ties with China & the rest of Australia's Asian neighbor, & sever ties with the Asian economy's. & put all Australia's eggs in one basket ( India ) who is already like Australia's 2nd largest trading partners.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nationa ... 6213416704

NOW WHY ON EARTH Would Australia cut trade with Asian nations, & bankrupt the Australian Economy, So the USA can try stop the rise of china.

:roll: why does the USA think the fall of the USA & the rise of china is Australia's problem.

Oh i See .......... Screw the rest of the world to save yourselves. :oops:


( An economy that has out perform every other economy in the O.E.C.D ) & an economy that has seen Australia go 23 years without a rescission & with 23 years of continual growth.


What in the world does the USA & Europe Think.

Does Europe & the USA really think Australia would bankrupt itself & destroy all the hard work on trade with China & the rest of Asia so The once mighty .... But now weak & pathetic USA & Europe can regain their old place's in the world.

Why Oh why would Australia do that.

The USA & Europe had their chance to join Australia & they chose not to ....... Live with that choice.

Australia has already brought the USA & Europe into our trade relationships with Asia ....... But don't push it.


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Postby rath » Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:19 pm

U.S alliance comes at cost of regional status - Keating

November 15, 2012

THE former Australian prime minister, Paul Keating, has accused the federal government of eroding Australia's foreign policy influence by clinging to the United States alliance at the expense of relations with key Asian neighbours.

Mr Keating said both the Rudd and Gillard governments had made the same mistakes as the former Howard government in weakening Australia's crucial relationships in Asia, particularly with Indonesia.

As a result, he said, Australia had been marginalised in regional diplomacy and the era had passed in which the country was an effective foreign policy activist.


''Our sense of independence has flagged, and as it flagged we have rolled back into an easy accommodation with the foreign policy objectives of the United States,'' he said, delivering the Keith Murdoch Oration at the State Library of Victoria on Wednesday night. ''More latterly, our respect for the foreign policy objectives of the United States has superimposed itself on what should otherwise be the foreign policy objectives of Australia.''


Mr Keating said Australia had been ''traded down in the big stroke business'' since it played a key role in diplomatic initiatives such as the creation of the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation forum.

''Even states like Indonesia are dubious of us because they do not see us making our way in the world or their world other than in a manner deferential to other powers, especially the United States,'' he said.

Mr Keating said the problem became apparent during John Howard's prime ministership and had remained apparent under the leadership of Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillard.

''After playing the deputy sheriff, John Howard had us dancing to the tune of the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan,'' he said.
The WikiLeaks cables then revealed to the Chinese that prime minister Rudd ''had been advising the United States to reserve the military option against them''.

Under the Gillard government, the US President, Barack Obama, had ''made an oral and policy assault on China and its polity from the lower chamber of our Parliament House''.

Mr Keating called for a return to the priority given to Australia's relationship with Indonesia during his prime ministership in the early 1990s. ''No country is more important to us,'' he said.

He said he had been right in assuming former president Suharto had a generally benign view of Australia, despite ''the preoccupation of the Australian media'' with the killing of Australian journalists at Balibo in East Timor in the 1970s.

''I was completely determined to establish a totally new and durable basis for our relationship with Indonesia other than the one we had which saw everything through the prism of East Timor,'' he said.

In recent years the relationship with countries such as Indonesia and Malaysia has focused on ''transactional issues of marginal long-term significance'' such as refugees and live cattle exports.

''Policy towards our nearest, largest neighbour, Indonesia, has languished, lacking framework, judgments of magnitude and coherence,'' he said.

There should be positive discrimination in Australia's relationship with Indonesia to reduce the country's ambivalance towards us.
''Whichever way we cut it, Australia must lay a bigger bet in its relationship with Indonesia. And this has to be cultural and commercial as well as political,'' Mr Keating said.
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