greeney2 wrote:However you did say in reply you are a strong Atheist, and Humphrey stated a weak athiest just does not believe, and also has no proof, where a strong Atheist presents proof of the non-existance of God. Is that true, a strong Atheist can proove God does not exist, since a weak Atheist claim he can not?
"Strong atheism, also sometimes referred to as explicit atheism, goes one step further and involves denying the existence of at least one god
, usually multiple gods, and sometimes the possible existence of any gods at all. Strong atheism is sometimes called "gnostic atheism" because people who take this position often incorporate knowledge claims into it — that is to say, they claim to know in some fashion that certain gods
or indeed all gods do not or cannot exist."http://atheism.about.com/od/atheismques ... g_weak.htm
I deny the existence of the "Biblical God," and also any "omnipotent/omniscient/omnipresent God." But I do not deny the existence of "any gods at all." For instance, if an alien race created us, you could call them our gods. Or if a race in another dimension created this universe (as I stated previously) you could call them our gods.
The most obvious proof that the "Biblical God" does not exist is the fact that modern humans have existed for much more than 6,000 years. That's all the proof anyone should need, but obviously many people deny the facts.
The omnipotence paradox states that:
"Could an omnipotent being create a stone so heavy that even he could not lift it?" If he could lift the rock, then it seems that the being could cease to be omnipotent, as the rock was not heavy enough; if he could not, it seems that the being was not omnipotent to begin with."
Omnipotence combined with omniscience creates another paradox:
"Does God know what he's going to do tomorrow? If so, could he do something else?" If God knows what will happen, and does something else, he's not omniscient. If he knows and can't change it, he's not omnipotent."
As far as omnipresence goes...
The "omnipresent God" was invented at a time when humans thought that Earth was all there was -- it was flat, and was comprised of just several continents. For such a finite space, such a being is easy to conceive. But it's ridiculous to think that a "God" can exist at all locations at once in this vast cosmos of hundreds of billions of galaxies...unless this universe were some sort of computer program (or hologram), and even if so, the actual creator of it wouldn't be omnipresent, just the program would.
Of course, I know that's not absolute proof of non-omnipresence...that's just my take on it. You could call it logical proof.
I don't believe what I believe because it's what I desire to believe. I believe what I believe because it's what logic causes me to believe.