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Postby rath » Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:02 am

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Postby Aquatank » Wed Apr 14, 2010 8:12 am

I only found number 5 "hair in pizza dough" gross, but since most things can be broken down chemically its probably not as bad as it sounds. I've read cooking recipes that would make many people worldwide squeemish (and I'm not talking about microlivestock) but are actually quite healthy for you if one can get over the "yuck" factor.

Human Waste for doors is kind of silly since dirt would probably do just as good, but properly treated Human Waste as a source fertilizer & biogas is great.

Its the culturally biased "yuck" factor that causes problems, some places things are easilly accepted others they are not. Many people would find the thermal depolymerization of human corpses horrific but its far less wasteful of raw esources than most burial practices and in the end it'd produce water and many raw materials that could be used in a variety of industries. Already most of us smear products made from human placenta on our bodys in the form of hypoallergenic creams and soaps. Like I said its just a matter of getting over the "Yuck" factor. Believe me I know, I'd have trouble working in a butcher shop, but I still eat burger.
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Postby rath » Thu Apr 15, 2010 2:58 am

Aquatank wrote:I only found number 5 "hair in pizza dough" gross, but since most things can be broken down chemically its probably not as bad as it sounds. I've read cooking recipes that would make many people worldwide squeemish (and I'm not talking about microlivestock) but are actually quite healthy for you if one can get over the "yuck" factor.

Human Waste for doors is kind of silly since dirt would probably do just as good, but properly treated Human Waste as a source fertilizer & biogas is great.

Its the culturally biased "yuck" factor that causes problems, some places things are easilly accepted others they are not. Many people would find the thermal depolymerization of human corpses horrific but its far less wasteful of raw esources than most burial practices and in the end it'd produce water and many raw materials that could be used in a variety of industries. Already most of us smear products made from human placenta on our bodys in the form of hypoallergenic creams and soaps. Like I said its just a matter of getting over the "Yuck" factor. Believe me I know, I'd have trouble working in a butcher shop, but I still eat burger.



The turd burger, didn't turn your stomach.

rath wrote:Crap!

Shiit.

Poo Poo.


Humans Have 101 Uses For Human Waste.

Waste Not, Want Not:

Scientists makes meat from poo

The livestock industry is responsible for around 18 percent of global greenhouse gas emissions, due largely in part to emission of methane from the animals. But researchers in Japan may have a solution - that may be a little difficult to stomach.

http://www.thegreenpages.com.au/Environ ... ent_burger

Recycling Organic human Waste, is cheap .... & effective way to reduce green house gases & pollution over all.

Some companies are making bricks from sewage sludge, too. A French company manufactures Ecobrique that uses sewage sludge to create ceramic building material. The sludge is partially dried and mixed with clay to create bricks or lightweight concrete. They are then fired at kilns to make them hardy and lightweight like conventional building materials.

Making Biogas from Human Waste

http://www.appropedia.org/Making_Biogas ... uman_Waste

http://www.fastonline.org/CD3WD_40/JF/432/24-573.pdf
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Postby Aquatank » Thu Apr 15, 2010 5:31 am

Its a seperated protein extract used as an additive. The only problem here is if Prions get involved.
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Postby CodeBlack » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:09 pm

Check out Westland, Netherlands in Google Earth. An entire city covered in solar panels. I guess the land that gave us windmills has moved on to solar.
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Postby Aquatank » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:59 am

Interesting device, a bit silly IMO but theres one thing My question is: will they make edible green screen masks? I'm serious what real use is it if there isn't a proper way to use it afterwards? Will there be bioreactors to put all this extra greenery in to get energy from or can we eat it, or can it grow lumber for building and fuel, otherwise its just making a new kind of problem that will give off methane when it dies which is three times worse than the CO2 it filtered. Still properly figured it out it might reduce the risk of catching airborne pathogens.
http://www.ecouterre.com/16363/green-sc ... -bacteria/

This is a bit ingenious especially with its success rate, the Groasis Water Box
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/12/groasis ... he-desert/
After seeing it I decided to test a quick and dirty version of my own using a Two liter pop bottle, a strip of ripped t-shirt, a rubber band, and 1/2 a zip lock freezer bag. Well see if helps a tiny tree in my yard.
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Postby vulcan6gun » Fri Apr 30, 2010 9:37 pm

The Triffids are coming! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!

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The eyes intrigue me. The mask is, um, somewhat repulsive. If it doesn't work as intended, it should still suffice as a form of passive self-defense. :lol:

Aquatank, get back to us on your 2-liter bottle experiment; it may provide a better idea than the water box. I can't envision a tree not getting cooked by a hydroponic box sitting in full sun with ambient temps of 115 or more degrees F.
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Postby Aquatank » Sat May 01, 2010 6:52 am

Well there isn't much to the two liter, and since its a tree that survived getting accidently mowed last summer it'll be interesting if it works right. The construction is fairly simple I cut off the bottom portion of a two liter bottle, and inserted about a foot and a half strip of ripped tee shirt through the nozzle with a large enough knot at the bottle end to hold it in. I dug about an 8 inch deep hole about six inches from the tree and hammered a 1/2 inch pole down the center about two feet pulled it and used it to insert the cloth strip down it. Then the two liter went in and got the dirt packed around it to hold it in. Then I cut a large zip lock freezer bag across the long diagonal making a funnel and cut a 1inch hole at the closed tip. I then inserted the bag into the two liter funnel downwards and held it in place with a rubber band. Results so far it does collect dew on the inside of the funnel at night and rain hasn't dislodged the funnel. It does need to be watched a litle since various organic debris like grass cuttings can block the funnel. Other than that at least I haven't mowed over the tree again.

and here's the latest news of interest I've gathered I'm surprised I did not catch this first one last year when it came out.

Are Fleischman and Pons Vidicated? US Navy confirms Cold Fusion.
Cold fusion experimentally confirmed by R. Colin Johnson 3-23-2009
http://www.eetimes.com/news/latest/show ... =216200272

Okay this one is a bit wild a self heating shower. Water passes through wildly shaped pipes creating friction heat which then heats the water.
Vein-Like Piezoelectric Shower Harvests Kinetic Energy to Heat Water by Kristi Bernick, 04/29/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/29/magnifi ... ore-111954


Purple Pokeberries Could Provide Low-Cost Solar for Developing Nations by Sarah Parsons, 04/30/10http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/30/purple-pokeberries-could-help-provide-low-cost-solar-for-developing-nations/#more-113122


Wind-Powered Knitting Machine Lets Nature Knit Scarves! by Bridgette Meinhold, 04/29/10http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/29/wind-powered-knitting-machine-lets-nature-knit-scarves/


Interesting Recycling Concept
Pepsi’s Reverse Vending Machine Pays You to Recycle by Sarah Parsons, 04/29/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/29/new-rev ... o-recycle/

Floating Poseidon Wind and Hydro Power Plant Will Be Extra Sturdy by Brit Liggett, 04/28/10 http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/28/floatin ... and-waves/

Direct Drive System Reduces Cost, Weight of Wind Turbines by Ariel Schwartz, 04/27/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/27/direct- ... -turbines/

Cactus Gum Can Purify Water Cheaply and Effectively by Ariel Schwartz, 04/27/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/27/cactus- ... fectively/

Pressure Cooker Creates Better Algae-Based Biofuel by Sarah Parsons, 04/26/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/26/pressur ... d-biofuel/

Dutch Propose Using Dikes to Generate Power by Brit Liggett, 04/26/10
http://inhabitat.com/2010/04/26/dutch-p ... ate-power/
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Postby vulcan6gun » Fri May 07, 2010 11:48 pm

The friction-based showerhead borders on 'weird'. Still cool, though. :)

Here's a newer link to cold fusion. Note that it's still a .com address; I didn't bother looking for a more reputable source (yet).

'Doh' Dept.: Was there some part of the term 'wind mill' that people don't get, as in a 'mill' can be any kind of machinery, including knitting machines?

Nice assortment of links, by the way. It's late, I gotta go (it's safe for other board members to log on again).
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Postby Aquatank » Sat May 08, 2010 7:01 am

Windmill will survive because its common usage, much like "laser rifle" is bit odd.
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