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 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: The Day After |
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Hello everyone,
Well, the day after the election is here. It was a heck of a race!
Am I surprised. No. Am I disappointed... extremely. After my 2 hour live broadcast the other night, I am worried for America, worried about our troops, worried about myself, but on the contrary, not so worried about the world view on America.
People will love Obama more, and subsequently America itself. For that, I guess this is a good day. But to be honest, we are a country who needs to thrive, be safe, and take care of itself. Protect those who deserve it, and thwart potential dangers before they arise.
World "approval" of our actions really don't amount to too much to me, I want to sleep better at night knowing I live in a safe, secure country. On January 20th, 2009, I now have my doubts if I still live in such a country.
The man I BELIVE QUALIFIED to lead us through these times was Senator John McCain. I will not renig on my original opinion -- and whomever wants to bash me for it go right ahead. No one can argue with me, that a little more than 46% of the country agrees.
As weighted as the election seems, it was close... very close. Ignoring the electoral count, approximately the same amount of votes seperated the candidates, that live in New York City alone. I think thats a very important point, and one President-Elect Obama keeps in mind as he transitions into the White House.
That said, I respect the office he is about to take. Although I am worried, I will support President Obama when he takes oath next year, and hope he leads this country to where everyone wants.
So here we go. To my fellow American Black Vaulters -- I appreciate you all listening to my ideas, opinions and your responses -- even though some were disgraceful!  This campaign has taught me that one person can make the difference in a campaign, and a political race can invoke emotions far beyond a smile, laugh, or sour face. It was the first time I volunteered for a Presidential nominee, and I worked hard for the campaign on my own time, in a state that is colored very blue. We lost, and that hurts, but it showed me even more how great this country is, and to be a part of that -- was awesome.
I was so motivated by the tens of thousands of people at Obama's rally's that despite my disagreement with him, he was able to touch and influence so many. I hope one day, I feel about President Obama, as I still believe in John McCain.
Obama is now a symbol of where our country has headed, what it has become, and now its his job, to prove where we are going.
Sincerely,
John Greenewald, Jr. |
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Well written and highly optimistic.
I hope one day Obama proves me wrong. |
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:37 am Post subject: |
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| Well said, John. I was raised to respect the Office of the President and will do so with President Elect Obama when he is sworn in. |
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Nobody in their right mind would want that particular job when it comes to the mess we are in. Nobody is qualified to run that office and anyone who believes that under our current circumstances we can vote in a political body and create drastic changes over the next four years is fooling themselves.
However change is what people wanted and drastic change is what we received.
Personally I am singing from the rooftops with joy.
We are re-entering the 21st century. I have to admit until the election was over only than did I realize that I have been holding my breath for the last eight years. Heck the weight that was lifted from my shoulders from these last eight years was unbelievable!!!!
It is not that I believe that this man is our total solution or our salvation. It is because this man will not continue to alienate this Nation from a large part of the world that we should have never been alienated from in the first place.
I don't vote for a person based on their religious background, nor their ethnicity nor does the color of ones skin matter to me. For some those qualities are important for me it is always about open mindedness and communication with the world in combination with their political motivations.
However this election was bigger than wanting Democrats to be in charge or re-electing Republicans for another 4 years.
How much more symbolic can it get to have a man in the White House who is half black and half white? Who's acceptance speech included every individuals diverse background as the fabric of what America is. Who's acceptance speech was not a big blast off of a party with balloons and fireworks and confetti. It wasn't about "we beat the Republicans".....
He wasn't even cheerful and he barely cracked a smile.
Speech writers are great and at this point I have no clue if he had some one actually write up his speech or if it came from him. Either way that particular somber message was a ray of hope for millions of American who are parched for change. "Yes we can".....not Obama, not McCain, not the Dems or the Repubs can.....no "we" can. And that includes all of us.
Without hope you have nothing.
But his win means more than political change, or possible change. It means that for the first time when a black child or Hispanic child says I want to become President those parent can say "follow your dreams". While I believe it to be a myth that anyone can become president I do believe that simple words like "follow your dream" creates change. Change in attitude, change in atmosphere of a country, or home, or environment.
His win is monumental for the black community and believe it or not for the white community as well. While it is easy to say that my generation had nothing to do with slavery and I am not responsible and can't they get over it, move on.....a wound is a wound until it is healed. And time doesn't necessarily heal all wounds. Actions do and this I honestly believe is a huge part that can help heal a division between both races. Watching the news and hearing that his win isn't only a huge win for black America but also a win for every white person who stood by blacks, who marched with them who stood up for their rights and where ostracized by their own kind.
There is so much more going on with this change than just politics. Positive and negative changes that we can't even foresee.
The war in Afghanistan won't go away.
The war in Iraq will not go away.
The war on terror will not go away.
The economy won't go away.
And I believe Barak Obama understands that very well nor do I think he takes it lightly. I've read many comments here tonight from those who are disappointed.....even you John wonder if you can sleep at night securely and safe. I guess the shoe is on the other foot now. While I have slept mostly sound at night for the last eight years I have watched how the opportunity of utilizing "fear" has degraded, alienated and created even greater hate for the US.
I do not envy the task Barak Obama has ahead of him. I would feel the same way if McCain would have won....it's a huge task.
I will welcome Obama here at least I know he will continue the path of imperial America. This turf I know and how the game is played.
McCain who was strongly military oriented with theocracy on his heals.....new game, new rules.....and not one ounce of me wants to ever experience such a combination.
The real question is in a world that is going global, and will not be stopped, what role will the US really have? Will this Nation be part of the pact that leads or will we as a Nation just simply be another nation that belongs to the global network with little power. While we have a new President elect.....the current Administration can make the choice of what our position will be in this new world that is heading our way at a faster pace than most people can see. |
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The one great thing about this nation is that, we elect a leader every 4 years. One thing I have learned in my old age is that change doesn't come easy to most people. We have a natural tendency to resist change, but when the change is here, we usually adapt to it. Thats why I wrote about the era's we have lived thru, and this is a new era for sure. The last remnants of the Reagan years are leaving us, and we are not returning t the Clinton years again as the primaries dictated. The last remants of the Kennedy age is leaving as well. When Ted is gone, the Kennedy family has been in our Congress or the White house for 50 years. We are turning to a complete new direction, a new era, and the 20th century leaders are fading away.
Is Obama the next greatest President of all time? Lets all hope he is, because thats what our country needs right now. John McCain went out with real character and Obama came in with a vision of hope.
We all did a lot of heated debating about experience. America somehow brings out the best in us. The most unsuspecting people end up with the Medal of Honor. When the challege is in front of us, the best somehow comes out. Obama is going to have an Army of advisors, and he will do just fine.
History sometimes has shown that a Preisident with a congress dominated by his party, doesn;t always work well. They say our system actually works better when it is divided. The past 2 years of a Democratic congress, has resulted in an approval rating less than Bush's. Tuesday the buck stopped on the Democrates and the blame game is over. They added more seats in the House and the Senate. Its their ballgame now, and what scares me is the top 3 are the most liberial it can get. Harry Reed and Barney Franks, and others along with them.
Anyone who doesn't have doubts that we just we too far to the other side, has a right to worry. I hope they make the right decisions. |
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I usually respect the office of President, however this man is not , and never will be my President.
He was elected by a cult, not put there on merits. I have stood behind all former presidents in my life,because I truely believed they deserved to be there. Obama does not. He paid 600 million dollars for the position that is all.
He already lowered the bar during his acceptance speech. He had mentioned that some of the things he promised during the campaign will not take place during his term? Well my thought is, then don't promise them.If you have no intention on delivering.
Why do we continue to put people in office based on false promises just so they can be elected?
Anyway, I stand by my statement I will not support this man,he is not an American,and he is not looking out for our intrests. He is only there cause he wants to be. Not for the right reasons.
This is a sad day for this once great nation. As Biden says," Mark my words", this man will destroy what this country used to be. This is not fear mongering it is fact..
I will give this man the same respect that has been given to Presaident Bush for 8 years. They no longer have Bush to blame ,they have only themselves. And all the wellfare tards out there who put this man in office for their welfare checks their never going to get. I hope it's you or one of you're family members that get killed in the first test.
There will be many.
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I usually respect the office of President, however this man is not , and never will be my President.
He was elected by a cult, not put there on merits. I have stood behind all former presidents in my life,because I truely believed they deserved to be there. Obama does not. He paid 600 million dollars for the position that is all.
He already lowered the bar during his acceptance speech. He had mentioned that some of the things he promised during the campaign will not take place during his term? Well my thought is, then don't promise them.If you have no intention on delivering.
Why do we continue to put people in office based on false promises just so they can be elected?
Anyway, I stand by my statement I will not support this man,he is not an American,and he is not looking out for our intrests. He is only there cause he wants to be. Not for the right reasons.
This is a sad day for this once great nation. As Biden says," Mark my words", this man will destroy what this country used to be. This is not fear mongering it is fact..
I will give this man the same respect that has been given to Presaident Bush for 8 years. They no longer have Bush to blame ,they have only themselves. And all the wellfare tards out there who put this man in office for their welfare checks their never going to get. I hope it's you or one of you're family members that get killed in the first test.
There will be many.
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Well written, all the way around. Interesting to see the opinions so far. I will back Senator Obama as President as long as he is true to this nation and his Oath of Office.
Please keep in mind that no single person can ever change the United States or its Constitution; our Government was designed to prevent the possibility of such. Don't be surprised when, as usual, campaign promises aren't realized, and Mr. Obama seems to turn out like all our other Presidents.
Tired of the same old-school political stuff? Try electing new (read: NEW, not different) Senators and US Representatives. Try joining (or even forming) a Party other than Democrat or Republican: just because your family always was one or the other doesn't mean YOU have to be. There is no written law that states you must be Democrat or Republican, and if your Party becomes strong enough, you might change the United States, and maybe even the world.
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Bloodstone, we all have our doubts, especially the McCain supporters. However, we just have come off 8 years of exactly what you are proposing to do with Obama. Bush began his administration with the Gore controversy, which was proven to have been a true election and Gore lost by 537 votes. But those who believed otherwise spent 8 years groveling and doing everything in their power to crucify Bush, who was elected to a 2nd term anyway. Its no wonder, his approval rating and reputation ended up as low as it is. We have our share of those on the board who could care less it their bashing was fact or fiction, and when it was fiction, called everyone names for questioning them.
I agree that the first thing Obama did was give everyone his disclaimers and escape clauses, but how many people said those promises were unrealistic and will never happen. We herd one lady cheering on television how she was going to get a big check and now her house payment would disappear.
Like it or not, he is now the President and if things go bad, He and the totally Democratic congress will have it on their heads. Either a great new healing era will begin, or we will go futher down hill, in which case the buck has stopped entirly on the Democratic Party.
I say give them the support they need for sucess, critisize when it is fair and factual, but lets not do the kinds of slander and lies they have done with Bush over 8 years. |
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http://www.yahoo.com/s/983463
As far as I'm concerned he already failed. Look at the above article. His montra has been "change , we need to change Washington". "We need to get rid of all the insiders who have corrupted Washington".
Well his first pick is one of the biggest partisan insiders ever in Washington. How is this going to bring the other party to their side?
This guy is a failure , That is the way I see it.
nope, not my President.
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