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More Global Warming Show!!!!!!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081135/One-dead-thousands-power-October-snow-London-74-YEARS-Arctic-blast-sweeps-UK.html
One dead, thousands without power and the first October snow in London in 74 YEARS as Arctic blast sweeps across UK
"One man was killed and thousands were left without power today after inches of snow fell across the country overnight.
Just two days after the end of British Summertime, the first snowfall of the year saw a lorry driver killed when his vehicle collided with another lorry on the M40 in Buckinghamshire.
Tonnes of lard being carried in one of the lorries was left strewn over all six lanes of the motorway causing long delays.
Thousands of homeowners were today without power after high voltage cables were brought down by the night's snowfall.
Clusters of homes in Hertfordshire, Bedfordshire and Buckinghamshire were affected and energy provider EDF said it would work throughout the day to reconnect supplies.
Even London was hit by a light dusting last night - the first time the capital has seen snow in October since 1934.
That was the year footballer Stanley Matthews first pulled on an England jersey, Adolf Hitler became Fuhrer and Alcatraz prison opened its gates off San Francisco. "
READ the rest here, great snowy pics.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1081135/One-dead-thousands-power-October-snow-London-74-YEARS-Arctic-blast-sweeps-UK.html |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: Re: London Sees First October Snowfall in 74 Years |
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| More Global Warming Show!!!!!! |
How bout then melting polar ice caps? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Re: London Sees First October Snowfall in 74 Years |
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| More Global Warming Show!!!!!! |
How bout then melting polar ice caps? |
You obviously have been missing class. Polar ice and glaciers are growing. Sooooooooooooooooo, man or sun? |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:49 am Post subject: Re: London Sees First October Snowfall in 74 Years |
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| Jaack wrote: |
| More Global Warming Show!!!!!! |
How bout then melting polar ice caps? |
You obviously have been missing class. Polar ice and glaciers are growing. Sooooooooooooooooo, man or sun? |
Ocean currents run around the world.
Warm water floats and cold water sinks.
Hot air warms the ice, the cold water, from the ice, runs into the warm sea and sinks to the bottom. Do this for long enough and the belt stops for a few years, during the few years where the belt has stopped the earth cools
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| The global conveyor belt begins with the cold water near the North Pole and heads south between South America and Africa toward Antarctica, partly directed by the landmasses it encounters. In Antarctica, it gets recharged with more cold water and then splits in two directions -- one section heads to the Indian Ocean and the other to the Pacific Ocean. As the two sections near the equator, they warm up and rise to the surface in what you may remember as upwelling. When they can't go any farther, the two sections loop back to the South Atlantic Ocean and finally back to the North Atlantic Ocean, where the cycle starts again.The global conveyor belt moves much more slowly than surface currents -- a few centimeters per second, compared to tens or hundreds of centimeters per second. Scientists estimate that it takes one section of the belt 1,000 years to complete one full circuit of the globe. However slow it is, though, it moves a vast amount of water -- more than 100 times the flow of the Amazon River. [source: NOAA: "Currents"]. |
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| Cinching Our Belt?Many scientists fear that global warming could affect the global conveyor belt. If global warming leads to increased rain, as some believe it might, the added fresh water could decrease the salinity levels at the poles. Melting ice, another possibility of global warming, would also decrease salinity levels. Regardless of the means, the end scenario is the same: Warmer, less dense water won't be dense enough to sink, and the global conveyor belt could stop -- having far-reaching and devastating consequences [source: NOAA: "Currents"]. |
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Ok thanks.
So you say it's man?
Cause the amount of water in the atmosphere would drop if it all rained out, then the temperature of the air would drop. It's simple science [my side] vs. scare science [the other side who wants to reduce industrial nations to 2nd world status] |
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| Cause the amount of water in the atmosphere would drop if it all rained out, then the temperature of the air would drop. It's simple science [my side] vs. scare science [the other side who wants to reduce industrial nations to 2nd world status] |
do what.
what the hell are you on about. |
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| Cause the amount of water in the atmosphere would drop if it all rained out, then the temperature of the air would drop. It's simple science [my side] vs. scare science [the other side who wants to reduce industrial nations to 2nd world status] |
do what.
what the hell are you on about. |
Water vapor is the largest contributor to atmospheric temperature, not paltry changes in CO2.
For there to be enough rain to lower oceanic salinity to the amounts required for water to not cool and drop the atmosphere would have to open a deluge thus lowering the amount of water vapor. Less water vapor cooler temperatures thus an ice age.
Now for all the global warming hype and hysteria, an ice age is actually devastating. Warm and warmer means more arable land for plants. Ice age or cold means less.
That's what I'm on about. |
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| Cause the amount of water in the atmosphere would drop if it all rained out, then the temperature of the air would drop. It's simple science [my side] vs. scare science [the other side who wants to reduce industrial nations to 2nd world status] |
do what.
what the hell are you on about. |
Water vapor is the largest contributor to atmospheric temperature, not paltry changes in CO2.
For there to be enough rain to lower oceanic salinity to the amounts required for water to not cool and drop the atmosphere would have to open a deluge thus lowering the amount of water vapor. Less water vapor cooler temperatures thus an ice age.
Now for all the global warming hype and hysteria, an ice age is actually devastating. Warm and warmer means more arable land for plants. Ice age or cold means less.
That's what I'm on about. |
I think one of us misunderstood the other.
I thought we were on about the ice melting and stopping the belt, not rain or CO2.
It would be impossible for rain to change the amount of salt in the sea. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:24 am Post subject: Re: London Sees First October Snowfall in 74 Years |
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| Cinching Our Belt?Many scientists fear that global warming could affect the global conveyor belt. If global warming leads to increased rain, as some believe it might, the added fresh water could decrease the salinity levels at the poles. Melting ice, another possibility of global warming, would also decrease salinity levels. Regardless of the means, the end scenario is the same: Warmer, less dense water won't be dense enough to sink, and the global conveyor belt could stop -- having far-reaching and devastating consequences [source: NOAA: "Currents"]. |
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| Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:28 am Post subject: Re: London Sees First October Snowfall in 74 Years |
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| Cinching Our Belt?Many scientists fear that global warming could affect the global conveyor belt. If global warming leads to increased rain, as some believe it might, the added fresh water could decrease the salinity levels at the poles. Melting ice, another possibility of global warming, would also decrease salinity levels. Regardless of the means, the end scenario is the same: Warmer, less dense water won't be dense enough to sink, and the global conveyor belt could stop -- having far-reaching and devastating consequences [source: NOAA: "Currents"]. |
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Bollocks it would take years of constant rain to have any effect.
Just plain 100% bollocks! |
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| You quoted the source. |
And the lesson there kids is don’t do four things at once. You make yourself look like a complete prat. 
sorry Jack. |
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Yes well it all fits in with the Climate change schedule that we have ahead of us. Disrupted ocean currents fail too bring as much warm air too Europe. Just like when the current day "Hudsons Bay" puddle escaped from the continent and was dumped into the ocean at the end of the last ice age and put Europe into a cold trend for a while long by hitting that critical desalinization point. Not as extreme in this instance, but all in the schedule.
Yes. An ice age would be devestating. Much moreso than warmer trends. There would be a lot of meat going on. We'd really need too protect the wildlife in that sort of scenario.
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| You quoted the source. |
And the lesson there kids is don’t do four things at once. You make yourself look like a complete prat.
sorry Jack. |
No problem. |
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LOL
Yes well it all fits in with the Climate change schedule that we have ahead of us. Disrupted ocean currents fail too bring as much warm air too Europe. Just like when the current day "Hudsons Bay" puddle escaped from the continent and was dumped into the ocean at the end of the last ice age and put Europe into a cold trend for a while long by hitting that critical desalinization point. Not as extreme in this instance, but all in the schedule.
Yes. An ice age would be devestating. Much moreso than warmer trends. There would be a lot of meat going on. We'd really need too protect the wildlife in that sort of scenario.
Man may be all powerful compared too life on Earth, but without life on Earth we are dead. |
What schedule?
There is less heat because the sun is in a major calm period. A cycle that is greater than the 11.5 year sun spot cycle. Less energy from the sun, less heat on earf mum [that's cause Aquarian calls it Earth Mother].
So man caused the last mini ice age? What schedule were we on then? |
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