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SouthwestRanger
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 Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Gun, ammo sales increase as election nears |
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Oct 24, 2008
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Several gun stores in the valley have seen an increase in firearm and ammunition sales lately. News 3's Dan Ball explains why the election and the economic crisis have people pulling the trigger.Jeffrey Bergman and his sister came to the Gun Store on Tropicana to practice their aim.
"We've had things like break-ins in the neighborhood," says Jeffrey. "We're concerned about the increase in crime in the area and protecting ourselves."Gun Store employees like Randy Formanek say they are seeing more and more folks like Jeff come into the store.
"They see a necessity to arm themselves so that they can defend themselves," explains Randy. "You're going to see more and more people without jobs, more and more economic desperation. When people get desperate, they do stupid things, and you need to prepare yourself for the eventuality of that."Besides self-protection, gun experts and gun users at the Gun Store say they are also concerned about what the next President may do about gun control.
"Some people are coming in due to the election coming up - kind of to hedge their bets, or get what they want before it may be banned," says Randy. "The concern is that the price of guns and ammo are going to skyrocket with any kind of ban in the future."
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SR: As are we all. Buy weapons in military calibers. That ammo will be the most plentiful and the last to dry up. 9mm, .308, .223, etc.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:09 am Post subject: |
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Reloading a firearm isn't that hard if you're familiar with the process, especially if it's not bolt action.
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:14 am Post subject: |
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Don't be afraid to buy yourself a piece to defend yourself!
It will never be a disadvantage should the **** ever hit the fan in your locale.
Aim for the head or crotch or appendages/limbs that have large arteries such as the neck, legs or arms.
I'd invest in a good HP rifle too just to be sure in case the need for it should ever arise. |
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| Well getting my FAC is high up on my list. I want an assault rifle because I like guns, and it would be sufficient for defense of me and mine should something big ever go down, but mainly I want too have a bolt action hunting rifle. Semi-auto would be ok, but I'd prefer bolt action for hunting. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:40 am Post subject: |
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| Oh surplus Russian ammo, how I love thee. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 9:42 am Post subject: |
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| Well getting my FAC is high up on my list. I want an assault rifle because I like guns, and it would be sufficient for defense of me and mine should something big ever go down, but mainly I want too have a bolt action hunting rifle. Semi-auto would be ok, but I'd prefer bolt action for hunting. |
For home defense, a shotgun is really the best to go.
Should something ever happened, you'd want to keep yourself in your house as much as possible. Don't go out LOOKING for a reason to shoot someone, but the spread and the sheer power of a 10 gauge can stop a person quicker and tear them up much faster than an AR. |
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| Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:46 am Post subject: |
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i agree with WZ..
plus that lovely sound of a shotgun cocking will probably stop anyone.
, but even a 12 or a 20 will hurt..
and # 6 or 5 birdshot, REALLY HURTS!
and at 10 feet, more than hurts..
makes speghetti..
lots of it.
better pattern. |
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This is true, I never thought about it that way. I had envisioned it would be handy for moving around should it become a necessity. More time in the house the better true, but if supplies should run out a weapon with a long range would be of use. Of course no one would want too go looking for a reason to kill. Or at least I find the idea ridiculous. Protection of mine are of the utmost importance, I don't care about anyone looting so long as they take it isn't hurting or sabotaging us.
Yeah, bird pellet seems like the way too go. It's my understanding that they have a higher spread (obviously an advantage when shooting birds) than normal shells do, harder too miss intended target.
Personally I've put quite a bit of thought into the "what if" scenarios, what if, what if, what if.
I think in most cases it would be good too get away from cities, as far away from ammassed population as possible, preferably in an area relatively hard too access, like the top of a mountain. With as few an entrance and exit as possible with I think an ideal minimum of 3 or 4 if I could be a chooser, all seeable from the highest point. I think second priority would be getting off this Island. It's a huge disadvantage. I live on Vancouver Island btw, I couldn't get off without months of preperation assumign that in the end I could construct a makeshift vessel too traverse too the mainland, which I somehow doubt, and so I'd want too be getting a way for us too all get off the Island and then get a ways inland and sit and hide somewhere cozzy. North probably.
That's my 'master plan'  I'm not thinking I should actually have too implore such drastic mearures, but I do worry and that's the best I can come up with.  |
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I doubt anything would go on long enough for "supplies" to run out.
But if it did indeed happen, and you had to make a supplies runs, I would invest in a Russian SKS, or if you really had money to spare, an M1 Garand.
Almost all fully auto ARs that would be the most helpful in these kinds of situations are illegal, so you might as well go with a reliable semi-auto with a good sized magazine and a powerful cartridge. |
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I wouldn't fire a full auto anyway, I'm not a professional, I can't maintain accuracy at range with fully auto. I'm a big fan of the semi-auto. But yeah I doubt too that anything would ever last that long, mind you I have a rather large immediate family, there's like 7 of us, so supplies'd go down quicker than a family of 3 or 4.
Just a light-weight (Composite perhaps?), 30 round, 5.56 or 9mm. Buttstock and perhaps 2X scope. But again, I like guns, so I'd like to have it just for the fun of it too use at a rifle range. |
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Times will get tougher, and the next president might "that one" who will either make guns or ammunition illegal to own, or tax guns or ammunition to astronomic levels. ...
An Obama presidency represents the biggest assault against the 2nd Amendment in our nation's history, and an Obama presidency also represents why the Founders gave us this right in the first place....
Obama has promised to ban all semi-autos and many high power rifle rounds if he should get to be elected president.He says that all he wants us to have pretty much nothing more than a single shot squirrel rifle at best, which flies right in the face of the Second Amendment and defending our country against tyranny.
Just as with Clinton promoting the assault weapons ban there was a big surge in purchases for guns and ammo there will be a large surge here also.
One other point while we are talking about this: Whenever possible, buy from an individual, preferably at a gun show (PA and in areas where this is legal). Private sales are untraceable. They can't come after what they don't know you've got. If you have weapons with a paper trail, make sure they've been "sold" before the brownshirts come a-knockin'. |
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| Well up here too my knowledge no one is seriously proposing a ban on SA rifles. But I'm sure there are people that would like too. If the US were too ban SA rifles than I bet that Canada wouldn't be far behind. |
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I doubt anything would go on long enough for "supplies" to run out.
But if it did indeed happen, and you had to make a supply runs, I would invest in a Russian SKS, or if you really had money to spare, an M1 Garand.
Almost all fully auto ARs that would be the most helpful in these kinds of situations are illegal, so you might as well go with a reliable semi-auto with a good sized magazine and a powerful cartridge. |
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| evutch wrote: |
i agree with WZ..
plus that lovely sound of a shotgun cocking will probably stop anyone.
, but even a 12 or a 20 will hurt..
and # 6 or 5 birdshot, REALLY HURTS!
and at 10 feet, more than hurts..
makes speghetti..
lots of it.
better pattern. |
Pump actions are not for home defense.
Now a double barrel 8 gauge sawed off...
You don't even have to aim. |
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| evutch wrote: |
i agree with WZ..
plus that lovely sound of a shotgun cocking will probably stop anyone.
, but even a 12 or a 20 will hurt..
and # 6 or 5 birdshot, REALLY HURTS!
and at 10 feet, more than hurts..
makes speghetti..
lots of it.
better pattern. |
Pump actions are not for home defense.
Now a double barrel 8 gauge sawed off...
You don't even have to aim. |
You don't have to worry about your arm staying in the same place either.
A double barrel or an over-under would be the best route though for keeping a house safe and secure. |
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