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 Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 12:45 am Post subject: Meet Indiana Voter Jimmy Johns, As Registered By ACORN |
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And Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner (D) says there is no evidence ACORN is committing voter fraud.
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Jimmy John's was registered in Indiana, not Ohio
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I'm willing to bet every person who scream and still screams about the Gore loss, and say the second Bush election was fixed, will say nothing about Obama voter fraud.
I all the liberials really think voter fraud exists, they will give this the equal passion as they did to Bush. |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 3:28 am Post subject: Re: Meet Ohio Voter Jimmy Johns... As Registered By ACORN |
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And Ohio Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner (D) says there is no evidence ACORN is committing voter fraud. |
Naw; there "smarter" than that, Comrade:
First it was Obama saying that Reverend Wright of the "God Damn America" videos was not the Jeremiah Wright he knew over 20 years. That statement was quickly exposed as utter nonsense.
Then it was unrepentant terrorist bomber and self-described communist William Ayers Obama tried to pass off as just somebody from the neighborhood when in fact they worked together for several years dispensing over $150 million in an attempt to make socialists out of Chicago's teachers and students.
Now Obama is trying to disassociate himself from ACORN, the radical socialist organization in the forefront of intimidating banks and bankers to make subprime mortgage loans to low-income and minorities whose credit did not warrant the loans. ACORN also has a long history of voter registration fraud, not only in Chicago, but across the nation. ACORN, like most socialists, want to replace the free enterprise system with an authoritarian socialist state and all means to accomplish this end are allowable, including violent intimidation and, shall we say, careless and negligent voter registration efforts. Despite -- or because of -- this history the Obama campaign paid over $800,000 to an ACORN unit for voter registration work this year.
Obama first ran a voter registration project with ACORN in the early 1990s, so he has to be familiar with its long history of accusations, investigations and convictions involving fraudulent voter registration. Obama trained ACORN workers in the art of pressuring banks to make unsound loans. As a lawyer he even represented ACORN in a law suit to force the Clinton Administration to loosen mortgage loan standards even farther. In the last couple of years Obama said his views were still pretty much what they were during his ACORN days and this past November he was quoted as saying he had been fighting alongside ACORN" his entire career. ACORN's political arm has endorsed him for president and proudly announced it has registered 1.7 million this year; ACORN is being investigated by public officials in at least 12 states for registration fraud in this election cycle. (For voter fraud in 2006 ACORN workers went to jail in Washington State.) Again, Obama' denials are total nonsense, but the mainstream media is not calling him on them, but is giving him a pass as it has done for Jeremiah Wright and William Ayers.
Stanley Kurtz, an independent researcher from Washington's Ethics and Public Policy Center, sets the record straight on yet another of Obama's prevarications (ok, lies). Read "Inside Obama's ACORN" in National Review of May 29, 2008 and Kurtz's follow-up October 8th in the same publication. Also, see this IBD editorial.
We have covered ACORN's close relationship with Obama over several months. For example, click here and here.
Just as Obama learned from his first foray into community organizing it would be easier and more effective to get inside the system to effect socialist change, so too did ACORN. In his book Obama admits he went to Harvard Law School to learn how to game the system at the highest levels. ACORN followed the same route: It switched from holding city council protests to working the system. Rather than fight from outside, infiltrate the system with voter registration drives to elect your people and use the law courts to change such things as mortgage loan regulations to force more loans to be made to those with subpar credit. All along the way, Obama supported ACORN, using his position on charitable boards to pour money into ACORN's radical agenda.
McCain is now running ads detailing the Obama-ACORN connections and his preposterous denials as well as the long alliance with unrepentant terrorist and communist William Ayers in promoting socialist goals, which included, guess what, funding ACORN.
This is a very similar tact used by pro Muslim Jihadists political forces as well, if you ain't noticed. Get a clue. Comrade.
http://www.chathamrepublicans.com/archive/2008/10/first-it-was-obama-saying.shtml |
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| Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 5:16 am Post subject: |
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I'm willing to bet every person who scream and still screams about the Gore loss, and say the second Bush election was fixed, will say nothing about Obama voter fraud.
I all the liberials really think voter fraud exists, they will give this the equal passion as they did to Bush. |
Man, we need to move on from there. Those people can easily turn that around and ask why you are crying now about it but turned a blind eye to it all 4 and 8 years ago. |
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I did't turn a blind eye! Just like the 911 conspiracy theories, I looked at the evidence presented, and concluded they were full of boloney. Every single WTC and Pentagon theory was not been proven and the official reports were credible to me. Just as credible was the investigation of the elections. I debated the Gore loss, until we ran it into the ground, and the evidence that he lost. The entire thing was proven to not be true. The next one 4 years later was also proven to not be true.
Gore lost, that was a proven fact. So did Kerry! |
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| greeney2 wrote: |
I'm willing to bet every person who scream and still screams about the Gore loss, and say the second Bush election was fixed, will say nothing about Obama voter fraud.
I all the liberials really think voter fraud exists, they will give this the equal passion as they did to Bush. |
Man, we need to move on from there. Those people can easily turn that around and ask why you are crying now about it but turned a blind eye to it all 4 and 8 years ago. |
Where do you get off assuming that Liberals (like me) are fans of the Democratic side of the Business party? Crooks, the lot of them. |
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You have most certainly turned a blind eye to it all Greeney... Just like in 2008 you cast all this blame for the housing issues on Democrats and liberals, and ignore the existence of the Fannie and Freddie lobbyists in your man McCain's campaign. You turn a blind eye to the Diebold voting machine issues, the same as Democrats are doing so with ACORN... You are the opposite side of the same quarter.
There is absolutely no similarities between asking questions about Bush's past, and being called anti-American for doing so, and asking questions about Obama's past, and being called a racist for doing so... Right?
The REALITY of what has become of the USA is only just starting to kick us in the ass... The freedom fighters we funded in the past are now the terrorists that attack us, the unregulated capitalist free market we love has just stolen 7 trillion dollars from us, our once democratic elections have been reduced to a mockery of what democracy is... And all you can do is sit here and play the pathetic Republicans vs. Democrats BS, picking sides like it's a damn football game. When your next president, Obama, starts taking advantage of the degradation of our constitutional rights that has been going on for the past 7 years, I bet you'll be turning a blind eye to what president and party made that possible for him.
Good thing I was typing and not talking, I hate wasting breath. |
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You have most certainly turned a blind eye to it all Greeney... Just like in 2008 you cast all this blame for the housing issues on Democrats and liberals, and ignore the existence of the Fannie and Freddie lobbyists in your man McCain's campaign. You turn a blind eye to the Diebold voting machine issues, the same as Democrats are doing so with ACORN... You are the opposite side of the same quarter.
There is absolutely no similarities between asking questions about Bush's past, and being called anti-American for doing so, and asking questions about Obama's past, and being called a racist for doing so... Right?
The REALITY of what has become of the USA is only just starting to kick us in the ass... The freedom fighters we funded in the past are now the terrorists that attack us, the unregulated capitalist free market we love has just stolen 7 trillion dollars from us, our once democratic elections have been reduced to a mockery of what democracy is... And all you can do is sit here and play the pathetic Republicans vs. Democrats BS, picking sides like it's a damn football game. When your next president, Obama, starts taking advantage of the degradation of our constitutional rights that has been going on for the past 7 years, I bet you'll be turning a blind eye to what president and party made that possible for him.
Good thing I was typing and not talking, I hate wasting breath. |
This is an excellent post! Very blunt, very astute. Very honest and frightening, yes. The truth so often is.
This can of worms is still opening. |
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| Robb you forgot to tell me what an expert you are in this subject like you are an expert in the medical field. Does everyone who doesn;t see things like you do have a blind eye? |
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| Robb you forgot to tell me what an expert you are in this subject like you are an expert in the medical field. Does everyone who doesn;t see things like you do have a blind eye? |
Let's hear again what makes YOU such a God damn expert that makes it possible for YOU to roam around here acting like YOU know it all, and telling everyone that YOU know better than them?
Hey Greeney... McCain has Fannie and Freddie lobbyists working in his campaign, and doing fund raising for him, at least 2 of whom are former Republican senators! Turn the blind eye, as you jump on Obama for his receiving the second most campaign funds from them or getting advice from their former CEO.
Hey Greeney... The former CEO of Diebold, Walden O'Dell, raised over 100 thousand dollars for Bush/Cheney '04, while he was still the CEO of Diebold! Turn the blind eye, because it's ok for the CEO of a vote machine company to donate money to a presidential candidate, as well as write a fund raising letter to Ohio state Republicans talking about how he is committed to delivering the electoral votes to the president, all the while you jump on Obama for his giving money to ACORN and getting an endorsement for president from them.
Hey Greeney... Where are the WMD? Remember those? Turn the blind eye.
Hey Greeney... Bin Laden killed thousands of Americans on 9/11, and Bush said that he no longer cares about capturing or killing him, saying he doesn't even think about the murderer of thousands of your fellow Americans! Turn the blind eye to that, while you jump on Clinton for not arresting him when the chance was there.
It's amazing, in Greeneyworld, Republican's do no wrong... If the president is Republican it's all the Democratic congresses fault, if the congress is Republican it's all the Democratic presidents fault... And if both the presidency and congress are controlled by Republicans, just blame Clinton.
It's not turning a blind eye when I don't agree with you, Greeney, it's turning a blind eye when both sides are blatantly doing the same things, and you blatantly ignore it coming from those you support. |
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What makes greeney's opinion qualified?
Well, his son has a conspiracy site on duh internets, for one thing.
That gives him plenty opportunity to troll around, dishing out the gospel to the "hecklers" who might actually have nerve enough to be concerned with the information, the documents, that his son John's site provides. |
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| Let's hear again what makes YOU such a God damn expert that makes it possible for YOU to roam around here acting like YOU know it all, and telling everyone that YOU know better than them? |
Maybe everyone should just ask your permission who we should vote for and what stories we should believe!  You do your share of roaming around here and acting like you know everything from government conspiracies to AIDS FACTS. Oh, I forgot you know how to clean a bed pans, so it you arn't an expert with your exposure to smart asses who is? |
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| Let's hear again what makes YOU such a God damn expert that makes it possible for YOU to roam around here acting like YOU know it all, and telling everyone that YOU know better than them? |
Maybe everyone should just ask your permission who we should vote for and what stories we should believe! You do your share of roaming around here and acting like you know everything from government conspiracies to AIDS FACTS. Oh, I forgot you know how to clean a bed pans, so it you arn't an expert with your exposure to smart asses who is? |
Have been here since 2001, and this seems to be a recurring theme with you, once you can't actually defend your stances or beliefs, or those of the people you support, you bring things up that have nothing to do with the topic at hand, resorting to personal attacks.
Come on big mouth, you wanna roam around trashing only Democrats for the state of the housing and credit market, explain McCain having 19 Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists running his campaign, and doing fund raising for his campaign. Too difficult?
I eagerly await your well thought out response. |
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The insults started with you! Like you said on the AIDS post, you were too busy to be bothered with me anymore.
Your opinions are no more expert than any of the other people on this board, or mine, and if you can show me where I said I was an expert in this forum, show me.
I have my opinions, just like you, and preference who I intend to vote for, and it isn;t going to be the combination of the 2 most liberial Senators, working with the most liberial Speaker of the house in History. |
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