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THE AGENDA IS A ONE WORLD COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT AND NWO
Watch how Obama plays dumb in replying to some hard questions asked of him about his CFR connections, and the North American-Union and the Amero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8duHcXX0&feature=related
YouTube - Barack is asked about the CFR/NAU March 2008
Watch how the elite at the top of the secret government and corrupt hierarchy play down the North American-Union scam and make it appear innocuous when in actuality it will be the end of our nation, open borders with Mexico and Canada, as well as the end of our dollar and the introduction of a North American-Union currency called the Amero! Watch video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA&feature=related
YouTube - NORTH AMERICAN UNION
Obama lies! Obama is a CFR member and so is John McCain and Hillary Clinton:
The CFR membership list is a who's who of Washington and Wall St. elite going back nearly a century. It should not be surprising that most presidential candidates in the 2008 election are CFR members. Candidates do not advertise their CFR membership to the public. You might notice that if a CFR member is not on the "official membership list publicly" they'll often perform as a CFR speaker instead of publicly revealing their membership. They pose as "liberals" and "conservatives" to control all aspects of the debate. The CFR has stacked the deck for the 2008 election with several members in the race from both sides of the aisle. The 2008 candidates, and past candidates that are current members of the corrupt and shadowy CFR organization are listed below. You will notice that they are from both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party which means nothing because they are political actors and actresses, men and women.
They are:
Barack Obama
John McCain
Hillary Clinton
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Fred Thompson
Michael Bloomberg
Mitt Romney
Jim Gilmore
Newt Gingrich
John Edwards
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Ron Paul is the only candidate who is not a member of the CFR and the only one that doesn't play dirty corrupt politics like the rest of them.
Whenever you see the name ROCKEFELLER you can know that something completely nasty and grotesque is going on behind the scenes which will present itself in a war, open borders, North American-Union, NAFTA, etc. Rockefeller and his family are multi billionaires and are a huge part of the destruction of this country and even worse. Watch video here:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1193221/cheney_speaking_to_rockefeller_at_the_council_for_foreign_relati/
Cheney Speaking to Rockefeller at the Council for Foreign Relati - Video
The true covert purpose, scheme and conspiratorial agenda of the CFR:
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England… (and) …believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton
“Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“Roosevelt was surrounded by members of the various Communist movements… At the Yalta and the Tehran conference, where the acquisition of half of Europe by the Soviets was formalized by treaty after WWII, who was Roosevelt’s top advisor? Alger Hiss, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations who was later convicted of espionage as a Soviet spy.”
- “New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies”, by William T. Still, p. 171
“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.”
- Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law
“Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected.”
- James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984
“The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind, that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education.”
- 1944 Council on Foreign Relations Report
“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what’s really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the ’security community’ with a common ‘outer security perimeter…. [ie] wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada… at this … meeting [3-23-05]… President Bush pinned the epithet ‘vigilantes’ on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona… the CFR document calls for ‘a seamless North American market’ and for ‘the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico.’… adopting a ‘tested once’ principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards…. putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system. … a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges…. supervision by a North American Advisory Council of ‘eminent persons’.”
- The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler.
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries”
- David Rockefeller, Member CFR, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, of Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan and the Council on Foreign Relations, from his Memoirs in 2002.
“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”
- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)
“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.”
- Richard Gardner, CFR member writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs.
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..”
- President Bill Clinton, CFR Member USA Today (3/11/93)
I call out to all Americans to stand up for our Constitutional Republic! To stand up to the oppression that these evil men have in store for our nation! To DEMAND that those in Congress, not under the influences of the CFR, to INVESTIGATE these corrupt leaders! Anything short of doing this will result in the very Constitution of this great Country being in dire peril and the citizens of this nation will surely succumb to economic ruin and physical slavery. |
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ya know...personally I think you are paranoid to the point of almost being psychotic...but one thing I don't get is why this all scares you so much. One world government especially if that government embodied the same values we have in this country now would not be a bad thing, It would be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the world. It would end all the bullshit wars and international racism.
Are you afraid of that? Or are you just afraid that more of those brown or olive skinned people might have as much say as you do in how fair the world is? |
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ya know...personally I think you are paranoid to the point of almost being psychotic...but one thing I don't get is why this all scares you so much. One world government especially if that government embodied the same values we have in this country now would not be a bad thing, It would be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the world. It would end all the bullshit wars and international racism.
Are you afraid of that? Or are you just afraid that more of those brown or olive skinned people might have as much say as you do in how fair the world is? |
You are speaking out of deep ignorance. A one world government would be a beautiful thing, indeed, if it were based upon encompassing freedom & equality. But the proponents & engineers of the NWO, those ideologues who are themselves responsible for so much death & destruction throughout human history, have no intention of creating an all-inclusive utopia for us & our children. There will be no end to the bullshit wars, no end to the hatred and greed and manipulation. Instead, these will be so deeply and thoroughly systematized & made manifest as an overt global power structure of corruption & domination that even the very hope of essential, vital individual free thought and expression itself will be well-nigh extinguished on this planet. It is for the sake of everyone, no matter the skin color, that such criminals and their monstrous ambitions must be countered whenever possible and put to a stop. |
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| Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:55 am Post subject: Re: BARACK OBAMA IS A DECEPTIVE LYING GLOBAL ELITIST! |
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THE AGENDA IS A ONE WORLD COMMUNIST GOVERNMENT AND NWO
Watch how Obama plays dumb in replying to some hard questions asked of him about his CFR connections, and the North American-Union and the Amero:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbV8duHcXX0&feature=related
YouTube - Barack is asked about the CFR/NAU March 2008
Watch how the elite at the top of the secret government and corrupt hierarchy play down the North American-Union scam and make it appear innocuous when in actuality it will be the end of our nation, open borders with Mexico and Canada, as well as the end of our dollar and the introduction of a North American-Union currency called the Amero! Watch video here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA&feature=related
YouTube - NORTH AMERICAN UNION
Obama lies! Obama is a CFR member and so is John McCain and Hillary Clinton:
The CFR membership list is a who's who of Washington and Wall St. elite going back nearly a century. It should not be surprising that most presidential candidates in the 2008 election are CFR members. Candidates do not advertise their CFR membership to the public. You might notice that if a CFR member is not on the "official membership list publicly" they'll often perform as a CFR speaker instead of publicly revealing their membership. They pose as "liberals" and "conservatives" to control all aspects of the debate. The CFR has stacked the deck for the 2008 election with several members in the race from both sides of the aisle. The 2008 candidates, and past candidates that are current members of the corrupt and shadowy CFR organization are listed below. You will notice that they are from both the Democrat Party and the Republican Party which means nothing because they are political actors and actresses, men and women.
They are:
Barack Obama
John McCain
Hillary Clinton
Rudy Giuliani
Mike Huckabee
Fred Thompson
Michael Bloomberg
Mitt Romney
Jim Gilmore
Newt Gingrich
John Edwards
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Bill Richardson
Ron Paul is the only candidate who is not a member of the CFR and the only one that doesn't play dirty corrupt politics like the rest of them.
Whenever you see the name ROCKEFELLER you can know that something completely nasty and grotesque is going on behind the scenes which will present itself in a war, open borders, North American-Union, NAFTA, etc. Rockefeller and his family are multi billionaires and are a huge part of the destruction of this country and even worse. Watch video here:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1193221/cheney_speaking_to_rockefeller_at_the_council_for_foreign_relati/
Cheney Speaking to Rockefeller at the Council for Foreign Relati - Video
The true covert purpose, scheme and conspiratorial agenda of the CFR:
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England… (and) …believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton
“Once the ruling members of the CFR shadow government have decided that the U.S. Government should adopt a particular policy, the very substantial research facilities of (the) CFR are put to work to develop arguments, intellectual and emotional, to support the new policy, and to confound and discredit, intellectually and politically, any opposition.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.”
- Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“Roosevelt was surrounded by members of the various Communist movements… At the Yalta and the Tehran conference, where the acquisition of half of Europe by the Soviets was formalized by treaty after WWII, who was Roosevelt’s top advisor? Alger Hiss, a member of the Council on Foreign Relations who was later convicted of espionage as a Soviet spy.”
- “New World Order: The Ancient Plan of Secret Societies”, by William T. Still, p. 171
“For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the USA. But he didn’t. Most of his thoughts, his political ‘ammunition,’ as it were, was carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations-One World Money Group.”
- Curtis Dall, ex-President Franklin Roosevelt’s son-in-law
“Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected.”
- James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984
“The sovereignty fetish is still so strong in the public mind, that there would appear to be little chance of winning popular assent to American membership in anything approaching a super-state organization. Much will depend on the kind of approach which is used in further popular education.”
- 1944 Council on Foreign Relations Report
“The powers of financial capitalism had (a) far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank…sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world.”
- Carroll Quigley, member of Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), mentor to Bill Clinton, quote from “Tragedy and Hope”, 1966
“The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) has just let the cat out of the bag about what’s really behind our trade agreements and security partnerships with the other North American countries. A 59-page CFR document spells out a five-year plan for the ’security community’ with a common ‘outer security perimeter…. [ie] wide-open U.S. borders between the U.S., Mexico and Canada… at this … meeting [3-23-05]… President Bush pinned the epithet ‘vigilantes’ on the volunteers guarding our border in Arizona… the CFR document calls for ‘a seamless North American market’ and for ‘the extension of full labor mobility to Mexico.’… adopting a ‘tested once’ principle for pharmaceuticals, by which a product tested in Mexico will automatically be considered to have met U.S. standards…. putting illegal aliens into the U.S. Social Security system, which is bound to bankrupt the system. … a major fund to finance 60,000 Mexican students to study in U.S. colleges…. supervision by a North American Advisory Council of ‘eminent persons’.”
- The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)
“We shall have World Government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World Government will be achieved by conquest or consent.”
- Statement made before the United States Senate on Feb. 7, 1950 by James Paul Warburg son of Paul Warburg who wrote the Federal Reserve Act, and nephew of Max Warburg who had financed Hitler.
“We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto-determination practiced in past centuries”
- David Rockefeller, Member CFR, in an address to a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991
“For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”
- David Rockefeller, of Standard Oil, Chase Manhattan and the Council on Foreign Relations, from his Memoirs in 2002.
“We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money.”
- Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)
“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.”
- Richard Gardner, CFR member writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs.
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..”
- President Bill Clinton, CFR Member USA Today (3/11/93)
I call out to all Americans to stand up for our Constitutional Republic! To stand up to the oppression that these evil men have in store for our nation! To DEMAND that those in Congress, not under the influences of the CFR, to INVESTIGATE these corrupt leaders! Anything short of doing this will result in the very Constitution of this great Country being in dire peril and the citizens of this nation will surely succumb to economic ruin and physical slavery. |
You still pushin' this crap, get over it Ron Paul is a LOSER  |
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| You are speaking out of deep ignorance. A one world government would be a beautiful thing, indeed, if it were based upon encompassing freedom & equality. But the proponents & engineers of the NWO, those ideologues who are themselves responsible for so much death & destruction throughout human history, have no intention of creating an all-inclusive utopia for us & our children. There will be no end to the bullshit wars, no end to the hatred and greed and manipulation. Instead, these will be so deeply and thoroughly systematized & made manifest as an overt global power structure of corruption & domination that even the very hope of essential, vital individual free thought and expression itself will be well-nigh extinguished on this planet. It is for the sake of everyone, no matter the skin color, that such criminals and their monstrous ambitions must be countered whenever possible and put to a stop. |
really?
and your evidence for such pessimism is what?
These "monsters" you pretend intend to live in this same world. raise children etc. Thats just paranoid bullshit.
Just like the bullshit about how the government in"trying" to kill us all with approving sugar substitutes or some of the other hogwash. These people self serving as they may be also have their own families even their own lives to consider, sometimes they do the wrong thing to make a buck but these people are no the "devil on earth" whose sole intention is to create misery and strife for all the world. They are still normal human beings and I think most of the people morons like Iam1 try to vilify are not the demons he pretends. Doesnt mean they are necessaarily correct in their goals or their methods but they arnt trying to turn earth into hell.
If the entire earth were under the same kind of government we have in the united states there would be much less war, much less poverty, much more sharing of the resources available. When is the last time you saw one of our states attack another?
You idiots pretend that the goal is power and then say how they want to kill us all...and have power over what?
too stuck in "they're gonna get us" paranoia.
I am surprised Iam1 can even get out of bed in the morning since even the clerk selling him his morning burrito at 7-11 is obviously just waiting for his chance to turn the world into ash.
moronic?...damn if they gave degrees for that Iam1 would have a doctorate. |
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| You are speaking out of deep ignorance. A one world government would be a beautiful thing, indeed, if it were based upon encompassing freedom & equality. But the proponents & engineers of the NWO, those ideologues who are themselves responsible for so much death & destruction throughout human history, have no intention of creating an all-inclusive utopia for us & our children. There will be no end to the bullshit wars, no end to the hatred and greed and manipulation. Instead, these will be so deeply and thoroughly systematized & made manifest as an overt global power structure of corruption & domination that even the very hope of essential, vital individual free thought and expression itself will be well-nigh extinguished on this planet. It is for the sake of everyone, no matter the skin color, that such criminals and their monstrous ambitions must be countered whenever possible and put to a stop. |
Yes really.
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| and your evidence for such pessimism is what? |
Personal experience and research. Plus, my eyes are open. They've opened wider over the years.
| Rhythm wrote: |
| These "monsters" |
..."criminals and their monstrous ambitions", I wrote. But would it be too controversial to consider sociopathic individuals who have no regard for the sanctity of life, who live to dominate, manipulate, exert control, get off on it, sating their desires at the expense of others, and in whose nature it is to gravitate toward power as "monsters"?
| Rhythm wrote: |
| you pretend intend to live in this same world. raise children etc. Thats just paranoid bullshit. |
Continue to pretend that there are no "monsters"...
| Rhythm wrote: |
| Just like the bullshit about how the government in"trying" to kill us all |
Wrong assumption. Not everyone, of course. Most of the "monsters" are sane and intelligent (often quite intelligent) enough to recognize the need for pawns and peons. It wouldn't be much fun for them otherwise, would it? Such people organize, and have influence. Vast influence, at this point. They go way back, and there are many "old money" families whose hands are drenched in blood. That is admittedly frightening, but whether to do the research and open your eyes is entirely your choice. There are those in this world who see themselves as the masters of the human race.
| Rhythm wrote: |
| with approving sugar substitutes or some of the other hogwash. |
Oversimplification & mockery do not change the facts.
| Rhythm wrote: |
| These people self serving as they may be also have their own families even their own lives to consider, sometimes they do the wrong thing to make a buck but these people are no the "devil on earth" whose sole intention is to create misery and strife for all the world. |
I can only speak for myself, but I consider the past & present actions and plans of certain groups of people to be what I can only term "evil". That is my perception of it. Perhaps that perception is incorrect, but when I take into account the sum total of everything I know/have learned, through experience & study, I highly doubt it. There are also many, of course, who are merely selfish & small-minded. They may cause harm through their self-serving choices, but I consider them human. Their willful blindness to humanity's plight and short-sighted egocentrism makes them valuable to the "monsters"; fearful, selfish people whose apathy toward how they affect the world has allowed "monsters" to get their way, and continually so. The situation is not black & white, but rather complex.
| Rhythm wrote: |
| They are still normal human beings |
Define "normal".
| Rhythm wrote: |
| and I think most of the people morons like Iam1 try to vilify are not the demons he pretends. Doesnt mean they are necessaarily correct in their goals or their methods but they arnt trying to turn earth into hell. |
Our enemy's words speak for themselves...
“The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government.” - Admiral Chester Ward, former CFR member and Judge Advocate General of the U.S. Navy
“Let us face reality. The framers (of the Constitution) have simply been too shrewd for us. They have outwitted us. They designed separate institutions that cannot be unified by mechanical linkages, frail bridges, (or) tinkering. If we are to turn the founders upside down… we must directly confront the Constitutional structure they erected.” - James MacGregor Burns, Council on Foreign Relations member, 1984
“The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down…but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault.” - Richard Gardner, CFR member writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR’s journal, Foreign Affairs.
“We can’t be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..” - President Bill Clinton, CFR Member USA Today–3-11-93
"Military men are just dumb stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger
"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will pledge with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government." - Henry Kissinger, in an address to the Bilderberger meeting at Evian, France, May 21, 1992
....And their actions speak even louder.
The worst part is that they are barely even trying to hide it now, yet people continue to avert their eyes. Silence equals consent. Many are even deluded into thinking such "monsters" have their best interests at heart, and that their version of world government will be a good thing. Nothing could be further from the truth.
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| If the entire earth were under the same kind of government we have in the united states there would be much less war, much less poverty, much more sharing of the resources available. |
That really would depend on the kind of government "the entire earth were under", wouldn't it?
These "monsters" have no intention of preserving the kind of government our Forefathers created. Their own words make this plainly evident.
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| When is the last time you saw one of our states attack another? |
False comparison. Try harder.
| Rhythm wrote: |
You idiots pretend that the goal is power and then say how they want to kill us all...and have power over what?
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Again, wrong assumption. You're just being silly and not thinking it through. Or perhaps, for whatever reasons, you simply refuse to look...
Silence equals consent.
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too stuck in "they're gonna get us" paranoia.
I am surprised Iam1 can even get out of bed in the morning since even the clerk selling him his morning burrito at 7-11 is obviously just waiting for his chance to turn the world into ash.
moronic?...damn if they gave degrees for that Iam1 would have a doctorate. |
"Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
If you do decide to take your blinders off and move beyond hysterical knee-jerk reactions, twisting of facts, and blanket denial, a good starting point in your education might be "The Power Elite" by C. Wright Mills. Hopefully, all those big words won't give you a migraine.
In closing, I'll leave you with this:
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"Good evening, my fellow Americans.
First, I should like to express my gratitude to the radio and television networks for the opportunities they have given me over the years to bring reports and messages to our nation. My special thanks go to them for the opportunity of addressing you this evening.
Three days from now, after half century in the service of our country, I shall lay down the responsibilities of office as, in traditional and solemn ceremony, the authority of the Presidency is vested in my successor. This evening, I come to you with a message of leave-taking and farewell, and to share a few final thoughts with you, my countrymen.
Like every other -- Like every other citizen, I wish the new President, and all who will labor with him, Godspeed. I pray that the coming years will be blessed with peace and prosperity for all.
Our people expect their President and the Congress to find essential agreement on issues of great moment, the wise resolution of which will better shape the future of the nation. My own relations with the Congress, which began on a remote and tenuous basis when, long ago, a member of the Senate appointed me to West Point, have since ranged to the intimate during the war and immediate post-war period, and finally to the mutually interdependent during these past eight years. In this final relationship, the Congress and the Administration have, on most vital issues, cooperated well, to serve the nation good, rather than mere partisanship, and so have assured that the business of the nation should go forward. So, my official relationship with the Congress ends in a feeling -- on my part -- of gratitude that we have been able to do so much together.
We now stand ten years past the midpoint of a century that has witnessed four major wars among great nations. Three of these involved our own country. Despite these holocausts, America is today the strongest, the most influential, and most productive nation in the world. Understandably proud of this pre-eminence, we yet realize that America's leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material progress, riches, and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and human betterment.
Throughout America's adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to keep the peace, to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity, and integrity among peoples and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people. Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension, or readiness to sacrifice would inflict upon us grievous hurt, both at home and abroad.
Progress toward these noble goals is persistently threatened by the conflict now engulfing the world. It commands our whole attention, absorbs our very beings. We face a hostile ideology global in scope, atheistic in character, ruthless in purpose, and insiduous [insidious] in method. Unhappily, the danger it poses promises to be of indefinite duration. To meet it successfully, there is called for, not so much the emotional and transitory sacrifices of crisis, but rather those which enable us to carry forward steadily, surely, and without complaint the burdens of a prolonged and complex struggle with liberty the stake. Only thus shall we remain, despite every provocation, on our charted course toward permanent peace and human betterment.
Crises there will continue to be. In meeting them, whether foreign or domestic, great or small, there is a recurring temptation to feel that some spectacular and costly action could become the miraculous solution to all current difficulties. A huge increase in newer elements of our defenses; development of unrealistic programs to cure every ill in agriculture; a dramatic expansion in basic and applied research -- these and many other possibilities, each possibly promising in itself, may be suggested as the only way to the road we wish to travel.
But each proposal must be weighed in the light of a broader consideration: the need to maintain balance in and among national programs, balance between the private and the public economy, balance between the cost and hoped for advantages, balance between the clearly necessary and the comfortably desirable, balance between our essential requirements as a nation and the duties imposed by the nation upon the individual, balance between actions of the moment and the national welfare of the future. Good judgment seeks balance and progress. Lack of it eventually finds imbalance and frustration. The record of many decades stands as proof that our people and their Government have, in the main, understood these truths and have responded to them well, in the face of threat and stress.
But threats, new in kind or degree, constantly arise. Of these, I mention two only.
A vital element in keeping the peace is our military establishment. Our arms must be mighty, ready for instant action, so that no potential aggressor may be tempted to risk his own destruction. Our military organization today bears little relation to that known of any of my predecessors in peacetime, or, indeed, by the fighting men of World War II or Korea.
Until the latest of our world conflicts, the United States had no armaments industry. American makers of plowshares could, with time and as required, make swords as well. But we can no longer risk emergency improvisation of national defense. We have been compelled to create a permanent armaments industry of vast proportions. Added to this, three and a half million men and women are directly engaged in the defense establishment. We annually spend on military security alone more than the net income of all United States cooperations -- corporations.
Now this conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence -- economic, political, even spiritual -- is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet, we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources, and livelihood are all involved. So is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together.
Akin to, and largely responsible for the sweeping changes in our industrial-military posture, has been the technological revolution during recent decades. In this revolution, research has become central; it also becomes more formalized, complex, and costly. A steadily increasing share is conducted for, by, or at the direction of, the Federal government.
Today, the solitary inventor, tinkering in his shop, has been overshadowed by task forces of scientists in laboratories and testing fields. In the same fashion, the free university, historically the fountainhead of free ideas and scientific discovery, has experienced a revolution in the conduct of research. Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity. For every old blackboard there are now hundreds of new electronic computers. The prospect of domination of the nation's scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present -- and is gravely to be regarded.
Yet, in holding scientific research and discovery in respect, as we should, we must also be alert to the equal and opposite danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.
It is the task of statesmanship to mold, to balance, and to integrate these and other forces, new and old, within the principles of our democratic system -- ever aiming toward the supreme goals of our free society.
Another factor in maintaining balance involves the element of time. As we peer into society's future, we -- you and I, and our government -- must avoid the impulse to live only for today, plundering for our own ease and convenience the precious resources of tomorrow. We cannot mortgage the material assets of our grandchildren without risking the loss also of their political and spiritual heritage. We want democracy to survive for all generations to come, not to become the insolvent phantom of tomorrow.
During the long lane of the history yet to be written, America knows that this world of ours, ever growing smaller, must avoid becoming a community of dreadful fear and hate, and be, instead, a proud confederation of mutual trust and respect. Such a confederation must be one of equals. The weakest must come to the conference table with the same confidence as do we, protected as we are by our moral, economic, and military strength. That table, though scarred by many fast frustrations -- past frustrations, cannot be abandoned for the certain agony of disarmament -- of the battlefield.
Disarmament, with mutual honor and confidence, is a continuing imperative. Together we must learn how to compose differences, not with arms, but with intellect and decent purpose. Because this need is so sharp and apparent, I confess that I lay down my official responsibilities in this field with a definite sense of disappointment. As one who has witnessed the horror and the lingering sadness of war, as one who knows that another war could utterly destroy this civilization which has been so slowly and painfully built over thousands of years, I wish I could say tonight that a lasting peace is in sight.
Happily, I can say that war has been avoided. Steady progress toward our ultimate goal has been made. But so much remains to be done. As a private citizen, I shall never cease to do what little I can to help the world advance along that road.
So, in this, my last good night to you as your President, I thank you for the many opportunities you have given me for public service in war and in peace. I trust in that -- in that -- in that service you find some things worthy. As for the rest of it, I know you will find ways to improve performance in the future.
You and I, my fellow citizens, need to be strong in our faith that all nations, under God, will reach the goal of peace with justice. May we be ever unswerving in devotion to principle, confident but humble with power, diligent in pursuit of the Nations' great goals.
To all the peoples of the world, I once more give expression to America's prayerful and continuing aspiration: We pray that peoples of all faiths, all races, all nations, may have their great human needs satisfied; that those now denied opportunity shall come to enjoy it to the full; that all who yearn for freedom may experience its few spiritual blessings. Those who have freedom will understand, also, its heavy responsibility; that all who are insensitive to the needs of others will learn charity; and that the sources -- scourges of poverty, disease, and ignorance will be made [to] disappear from the earth; and that in the goodness of time, all peoples will come to live together in a peace guaranteed by the binding force of mutual respect and love.
Now, on Friday noon, I am to become a private citizen. I am proud to do so. I look forward to it.
Thank you, and good night." - Dwight D. Eisenhower |
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ya know...personally I think you are paranoid to the point of almost being psychotic...but one thing I don't get is why this all scares you so much. One world government especially if that government embodied the same values we have in this country now would not be a bad thing, It would be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the world. It would end all the bullshit wars and international racism.
Are you afraid of that? Or are you just afraid that more of those brown or olive skinned people might have as much say as you do in how fair the world is? |
Funny, I think you are deranged and I have a very high degree in the mental health field!! You definitely suffer from a closed and deluded mindset! And you have no idea what psychosis involves, otherwise you wouldn't talk about it in such an ignorant fashion as you do. Amazing how you can equate paranoia with getting information out to the people. I'm NOT paranoid at all. That's your non-expert assumption. I have nothing to be paranoid about because I'm aware. I do my research on the global elitists and the various mob organizations and families that run this world and I live and breath with my eyes opened to their agendas. You on the other hand live in denial and false assumptive name calling because it's you that is the paranoid one.
In addition, I lived in Mexico for many years and I love the Mexican people and I go back and visit there often. So if you're attempting to say that I'm prejudice or racist you'd be WRONG again, and as usual make an azz out of yourself. I happen to love all of humanity, it's the global elitists that I don't like and their agendas, because they are devious and they have a plan to destroy by genocide most of the population of the human masses on this planet. They are doing it now by food shortages, etc. Look at Africa and what has been going on there for decades now, death, destruction and theft of every natural resource imaginable! And look at the illuminati bloodline family(s) that control over there and are having Africans slaughtered.
And these crazy monsters are the ones that you support to bring in a One World Government, microchip everyone, destroy the sovereignty of this nation and tax all the masses - as well as eliminate all their privacy so they can get richer and more powerful from your slave labor, property and taxes! YOU are the one that is out of your mind! You want world power and control in the hands of a few elite sociopaths? You are the one who is out of your mind! Try getting off your butt and doing some research into the Illuminati mob and families, it might open your closed eyes and mind just a little   |
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| Rhythm wrote: |
ya know...personally I think you are paranoid to the point of almost being psychotic...but one thing I don't get is why this all scares you so much. One world government especially if that government embodied the same values we have in this country now would not be a bad thing, It would be one of the greatest things to ever happen in the world. It would end all the bullshit wars and international racism.
Are you afraid of that? Or are you just afraid that more of those brown or olive skinned people might have as much say as you do in how fair the world is? |
You are speaking out of deep ignorance. A one world government would be a beautiful thing, indeed, if it were based upon encompassing freedom & equality. But the proponents & engineers of the NWO, those ideologues who are themselves responsible for so much death & destruction throughout human history, have no intention of creating an all-inclusive utopia for us & our children. There will be no end to the bullshit wars, no end to the hatred and greed and manipulation. Instead, these will be so deeply and thoroughly systematized & made manifest as an overt global power structure of corruption & domination that even the very hope of essential, vital individual free thought and expression itself will be well-nigh extinguished on this planet. It is for the sake of everyone, no matter the skin color, that such criminals and their monstrous ambitions must be countered whenever possible and put to a stop. |
Hi Personanongrata! I totally agree with you. These closed minded idiots are probably supporting Obama. They don't have the mindset to get off of their azzes to even look at the other candidates that are out there and running, like Cynthia McKinney, Bob Barr, Charles O. 'Chuck' Baldwin. They're deluded by the medias all encompassing coverage of McCain and Obama, the party-liners which are the biggest actors in the political area at this time. Hillary Clinton is one of them too and Obama may very well pick her as his VP. oh holy terror! Obama and McCain are monopolizing the campaign for the presidency SO MUCH that none of the other candidates can be heard or barely known about. Yet the deluded people like rythm and neal# stay in their mind controlled deluded boxes as usual.
Daring never to step outside the cozy rat infested boxes they thrive in! Research and change is a very scary thing for them.
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=53051
Project Vote Smart - Charles O. 'Chuck' Baldwin - Biography
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=22028
Project Vote Smart - Bob Barr - Biography
http://www.votesmart.org/bio.php?can_id=26826
Project Vote Smart - Cynthia Ann McKinney - Biography |
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| Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: Re: BARACK OBAMA IS A DECEPTIVE LYING GLOBAL ELITIST! |
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You still pushin' this crap, get over it Ron Paul is a LOSER |
WRONG again you idiot! Ron Paul didn't lose anything. How can you lose when you announce you're dropping out and focusing on your Congressional seat and Revolution? And besides, he was probably threatened to drop out of the race because the nasty powers that rule this country and control by media didn't like the positive Constitutional influence Ron Paul was having on the people and this country. Get a clue. And you are SO small minded you think your constant barrage of saying Ron Paul lost or is a loser affects me negatively or in the slightest, what a joke you two are and SO childish too! You are the loser personified because you can't think out of your brainwashed box! And Obama and you are the loser's because you're both warped and inexperienced and dishonest!
Bill Clinton says Obama must "kiss my ass"Read here:
http://sweetness-light.com/archive/bill-obama-can-kiss-my-ass-for-support
If you can't see all the hyped role playing and acting going on between these phony media puppet candidates and past/present political leaders, you're out of your mind and in your box!
At a campaign event in Oregon, Barack Obama says, "I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go."
Watch how smart Obama claims he is about this nation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws&eurl=http://politicalhumor.about.com/od/barackobamavideos/youtube/obama-57-states.htm
YouTube - Obama Claims He's Visited 57 States
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| You are speaking out of deep ignorance. A one world government would be a beautiful thing, indeed, if it were based upon encompassing freedom & equality. But the proponents & engineers of the NWO, those ideologues who are themselves responsible for so much death & destruction throughout human history, have no intention of creating an all-inclusive utopia for us & our children. There will be no end to the bullshit wars, no end to the hatred and greed and manipulation. Instead, these will be so deeply and thoroughly systematized & made manifest as an overt global power structure of corruption & domination that even the very hope of essential, vital individual free thought and expression itself will be well-nigh extinguished on this planet. It is for the sake of everyone, no matter the skin color, that such criminals and their monstrous ambitions must be countered whenever possible and put to a stop. |
really?
and your evidence for such pessimism is what?
These "monsters" you pretend intend to live in this same world. raise children etc. Thats just paranoid bullshit.
Just like the bullshit about how the government in"trying" to kill us all with approving sugar substitutes or some of the other hogwash. These people self serving as they may be also have their own families even their own lives to consider, sometimes they do the wrong thing to make a buck but these people are no the "devil on earth" whose sole intention is to create misery and strife for all the world. They are still normal human beings and I think most of the people morons like Iam1 try to vilify are not the demons he pretends. Doesnt mean they are necessaarily correct in their goals or their methods but they arnt trying to turn earth into hell.
If the entire earth were under the same kind of government we have in the united states there would be much less war, much less poverty, much more sharing of the resources available. When is the last time you saw one of our states attack another?
You idiots pretend that the goal is power and then say how they want to kill us all...and have power over what?
too stuck in "they're gonna get us" paranoia.
I am surprised Iam1 can even get out of bed in the morning since even the clerk selling him his morning burrito at 7-11 is obviously just waiting for his chance to turn the world into ash.
moronic?...damn if they gave degrees for that Iam1 would have a doctorate. |
To rhythm>Wowee what??? Listen to the moronic crapola you are stating, do you even hear yourself through all the brainwashing you enable yourself into having? Here is what you said, and I quote:
"If the entire earth were under the same type of government we have in the united states there would be much less war, much less poverty, much more sharing of the resources available"
If it wasn't SO stupid I'd almost laugh at it! We are currently in two major wars and about to embark on a third war with Iran! I hope that there aren't any other countries who want this crappy and corrupt type of government we have. The entire world would probably be at war then! And know this, that there are plenty of resources available on this earth and have been for a long long time now but the elitists hoard it and conceal it so that the masses of people they want to exterminate will die of hunger, typhoid, dehydration, malnutrition, and more! Wake up and learn because nothing is what it appears to be. I dare you not to watch the news for six months and just do research on your computer and with books from the bookstore all about the issues we've been discussing here. You are so conditioned by the news media that you play down the seriousness of our government. Look at all the secret/covert meetings Bush and Cheney have and attend all across the globe. If this administration was genuine it would stay here at home and work on all the issues this nation has that needs to be corrected, and it wouldn't be imperialistically invading and occupying other countries and perpetuating death, destruction and fear on a massive scale!
Do some research about what happened in this country in the year 1913
The Federal Reserve is a PRIVATE (BANK) CORPORATION... not federal. This is evidence that our forefathers warned us about and what I've been trying to warn you all here about and anyone who has eyes and the wisdom to see it:
Thomas Jefferson, declared, "If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Did Jefferson have a crystal ball when he spoke these words? Has a private bank taken control over our nation's money supply?
If you would ask any American citizen what the Federal Reserve is, he probably would tell you that it is a government agency that creates all of the money to run the United States. This unfortunately, is the misconception most Americans have: that the Federal Reserve is a government agency, probably because the word "Federal" is used deceptively in its name to mislead. And this is exactly what the Bankers want: ignorance among the population!
Read Congressman and Dr. Ron Paul's: Gold, Peace, and Prosperity"
http://www.scribd.com/doc/905234/Gold-Peace-and-Prosperity-by-Dr-Ron-Paul
Gold, Peace, and Prosperity by Dr. Ron Paul |
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