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screamzero
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 Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: Malik Obama confirms his half-brother Barack grew up Muslim |
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Apparently the Obamas of Kenya have been reading those scurrilous emails to which Barack likes to refer, because they have no doubt -- contrary to the claims of the Obama campaign, that the presidential candidate was raised a Moslem. They take that as a given.
As the Jerusalem Post reports, "Barack Obama's half brother Malik said Thursday that if elected his brother will be a good president for the Jewish people, despite his Muslim background. In an interview with Army Radio he expressed a special salutation from the Obamas of Kenya."
The Obama brothers' father, a senior economist for the Kenyan government who studied at Harvard University, died in car crash in 1982. He left six sons and a daughter. All of his children - except Malik -- live in Britain or the United States. Malik and Barack met in 1985.
In a remarkable denial issued last November that still stands on the official campaign website, Obama spokesman Robert Gibbs issued a statement explaining that "Senator Obama has never been a Muslim, was not raised as a Muslim, and is a committed Christian."
Apparently Malik Obama, himself a Muslim, had not read the press release.
Melanie Phillips is the most recent commentator to draw attention to the massive body of evidence that leaves no doubt that Barak Hussein Obama was born a Muslim (Islam is patrilineal) and raised a Muslim (so registered in school, acknowledging attending Islamic classes, reported accompanying his step-father to the mosque, and able to recite the Koran in the original Arabic).
Reuven Koret, Aaron Klein and Daniel Pipes have previously pointed to the attempts by Obama and his campaign to conceal the candidate's Muslim background. The well documented evidence draws upon the on-the-ground interviews by researchers in Indonesia and Kenya, published quotations of Obama's childhood friends and his school records, as well as the candidate's own autobiography.
It is not clear whether Barack Obama will now disown his half-brother Malik, or throw him under the campaign bus, for acknowledging that shared family background. In any case, some one should notify "Fight the Smear" tout de suite. Perhaps they can get him with the program.
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The point is that when you run for President, you better tell the truth because the truth sooner or later will come out. You can't hide any skeletons in the closet for long. If he was raised and converted, just admit it! Covering it up will only create a bigger problem later, like it is now. Covering it up means you feel something will hurt you with the truth, and the truth is the perception of Muslims concerning jews, would kill him politically. Kind of like, the real background of his church pastor and wife's real views came out, it makes Obama appear he could only think the same way.
The point is, Does he think that way? Add them all togather, the bits and pieces form a pattern, and a real big point comes to my mind. If he was raised Muslim what are his real views when his own brother makes this statement:
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Pretty poor choice of words that implies Muslim background has a built in mindset against Jews. Add to that, his pastors views and connections to Louis Faracan, and his wifes statements about America, that forms a picture to me that is a big point to consider. |
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| Like it or not, he's more than likely your next president. Bush has caused too many problems and no one can afford another republican unless they can fix the damages. |
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The point is that when you run for President, you better tell the truth because the truth sooner or later will come out. You can't hide any skeletons in the closet for long. If he was raised and converted, just admit it! Covering it up will only create a bigger problem later, like it is now. Covering it up means you feel something will hurt you with the truth, and the truth is the perception of Muslims concerning jews, would kill him politically. Kind of like, the real background of his church pastor and wife's real views came out, it makes Obama appear he could only think the same way.
The point is, Does he think that way? Add them all togather, the bits and pieces form a pattern, and a real big point comes to my mind. If he was raised Muslim what are his real views when his own brother makes this statement:
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Pretty poor choice of words that implies Muslim background has a built in mindset against Jews. Add to that, his pastors views and connections to Louis Faracan, and his wifes statements about America, that forms a picture to me that is a big point to consider. |
Obama's SUPPOSED Muslim background is a non issue, and it pretty fricken ridiculous that people who support the war in Iraq, in part to help free Iraqi's, will make issue of it, will spend days on end here shooting off at the mouth about how evil Muslims are, all the while the Iraqi's are Muslim, and these lame asses then turn all contradictory and talk about how great the Iraqi's are... You can't have it both ways.
John McCain runs around pretending to be a Baptist, when he is in fact Episcopalian, and has NEVER been baptised into the Baptist faith... Where is all the talk about that lie? Go head Greeney, show me the difference.
As far as Wright goes, the perceptions of this guy are based on out of context quotes, plain and simple. Just as McCain's quote about staying in Iraq for a hundred years was out of context... Oh wait, the 2 are vastly different, because you apparently support McCain!
I hate election years... Show me a person that takes sides, and tries to act like one side does things that the other doesn't, and I'll show you a person that has dog crap between their ears. I am so sick to death by the hypocritical BS, by people that don't have the balls nor the brains to call it like it is. |
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There is a long way to go, and a lot of debates, a lot of campaigning, and a lot of specifics about isssues that will come out.
The big thing I think we all can agree on it that we really do;t know and can;t make any decision until the running mates are known. |
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| Show me a person that takes sides, and tries to act like one side does things that the other doesn't, and I'll show you a person that has dog crap between their ears. |
Very true, but please try to discriminate between those who really have the doggie doo and those of us who are having fun with them. |
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| John McCain runs around pretending to be a Baptist, when he is in fact Episcopalian, and has NEVER been baptised into the Baptist faith... Where is all the talk about that lie? Go head Greeney, show me the difference. |
The difference is, no one is born a Christian. It makes no difference if your parents are Christian, deciding to follow Christ is a decision you have to make on your own when you are old enough to make that decision for yourself. In Islam, if your father is Muslim, you are Muslim from birth with no choice in the matter. Also according to the Quran and the Hadiths the penalty for leaving Islam is death, if you refuse the opportunity to repent.
As for McCain not being baptized into the Baptist faith, that is not how it works. When a person is baptized they are baptized into the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus Christ, not into any specific denomination. Joining a new denomination does not require a new baptism, even with our minor disagreements, we all follow the same savior. And McCain is not claiming to be a baptist after being indoctrinated into some other non-Christian religion. The matter is hardly the same thing. |
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| Like it or not, he's more than likely your next president. Bush has caused too many problems and no one can afford another republican unless they can fix the damages. |
And you think we will be able to afford a Democrat? Good grief! |
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| Joining a new denomination does not require a new baptism, even with our minor disagreements, we all follow the same savior. |
Exactly right! Unfortunatly every religion doesn;t recognize other Baptisms, as the board has discussed. Regardless, there is nothing that is a conflict for a one Christian religion to attend another Christian religions services. Many, but not all, allow you to recieve Communion regardless of your affiliation or membership. Catholics do not, and have specific reasons why not, how ever all are welcome to the alter for a blessing. |
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