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Navy to spend $600,000 to mask 'hateful' swastika-shaped barracks
"The U.S. Navy has decided to spend as much as $600,000 for landscaping and architectural modifications to obscure the fact that one its building complexes looks like a swastika from the air," Tony Perry reports in Monday's edition of the LA Times. "The four L-shaped buildings, constructed in the late 1960s, are part of the amphibious base at Coronado and serve as barracks for Seabees."
The article continues, "But once people began looking at satellite images from Google Earth, they started commenting about on blogs and websites about how much the buildings resembled the symbol used by the Nazis."
The shape of the barracks was first noticed and commented upon at a Google Earth Community bulletin board as early as February 2005. As the oddity became more widely known, however, calls arose for the Navy to do something about it. Now the prevailing tone in blog comments is one of scorn for the waste of $600,000 on something that can only be seen from space.
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When contacted by a Missouri-based radio talk-show host last year, Navy officials gave no indication they would make changes. But early this year, the issue was quietly taken up by Morris Casuto, the Anti-Defamation League's regional director in San Diego, and U.S. Rep. Susan Davis (D-San Diego).
As a result, in the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1, the Navy has budgeted up to $600,000 for changes in walkways, "camouflage" landscaping and rooftop photovoltaic cells.
The goal is to mask the shape. "We don't want to be associated with something as symbolic and hateful as a swastika," said Scott Sutherland, deputy public affairs officer for Navy Region Southwest, the command that is responsible for maintaining buildings on local bases.
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| Looks like "L" to me....(pardon the pun.) |
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Is it just me or is the headline misleading? If you read the article, it doesn't actually say that $600,000 will be spent to obscure the fact the buildings resemble a swastika. It says:
"As a result, in the fiscal year that begins Oct. 1, the Navy has budgeted up to $600,000 for changes in walkways, "camouflage" landscaping and rooftop photovoltaic cells."
Some of the money will be spent on solar cells, which have nothing to do with any landscaping involving these buildings. As for the rest of the money, I'm sure there is a section of the budget set aside each year for landscaping and the like. This would mean that the remainder of the money would be spent in several areas, not only on the buildings in question. This seems like a bit of a non-story. |
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This is only new because of google earth. The outline of the buildings appeared for years on nautical charts of San Diego, specifically charts 18772 and 18773. I think I first noticed them in the late '80s. I think when DMA became NIMA, was about the time that they dissappeared from the charts, the editions we use to navigate out of the bay now, don't show the building.
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Too bad the Navy and all the other service branches can't spend the same amount of $$$ and energy helping some of the misbegotten Veterans than languish in VA Hospitals...
I dare even the most hardened person amongst us not to break down in tears over thet way these poor souls are treated in these places.... |
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Have you ever heard the phrase...''tempest in a teapot''? That's exactly what this is. That $600,000 is just Maintenance costs for a large facility. This stupid article is just another attempt by someone who Hates the US to try to show it in a Bad light. ''Much Ado About Nothing''. Swastica-shaped buildings?  Someone is really Reaching to find something to complain about. |
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You could live next these buildings for 20 years and from the ground level would never think about their shape from the air. From coast to coast I'd bet you could find 1000 similar layouts that are a simple L-shaped layout where a block of 4 may have been built togather. Barracks layouts, school building layouts, hospitals. Main buildings with a wing attached.
This is a rather rediculas thing to spend a dime on. |
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Why do you people automatically assume the government would make a mistake like this? The 600 thousand could be made to change the building itself being they could all use more room.
Governments don't make mistakes, so when you see how many government buildings built to look like swastikas were made, you have to look at it differently. Buildings would never be built to resemble in any way a swastika unless done purposely. Public buildings that would be in the public eye would never be built, especially in 1960s when the protesters were all the rage for equal rights, to look like that. |
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| What Drivel! Who Cares? |
As a tax payer, maybe you should care.
Or maybe, you just want to follow the propagandists.  |
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| What Drivel! Who Cares? |
As a tax payer, maybe you should care.
Or maybe, you just want to follow the propagandists. |
As a taxpayer, I think the article is Anti-American Drivel that was posted by someone who is desperate to show anything bad about this country that they can possibly find. And, as a taxpayer, I couldn't care less about the shape of this building complex. Why do you think it's important? |
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I disagree that we should pretend to uphold such ignorant mistakes and pretend they were just accidents. We are America and we don't make accidents. The people that run this government were educated in colleges renowned for creating perfect people. Harvard, Standford, and any over priced over publicized college you can think of. They are taught to plan other people's future and to pick a stand young. They are just following through with what path they chose.
The building couldn't be seen any different that a Nazi symbol and the government had to have known this. Stop thinking the government is so simple minded. If they were, then how could you trust them with warheads, public money, etc., etc.. If they were so dumb after defeating this leader in a world war not far from that day in 1960 or at least close enough, that they would accidentally build a building embedding him as an icon, you would have to be wrong. This war was still fresh on everyone's mind. My grandfathers both fought in this war and they would never associate with a military company or building built similar to the horrible swastika. Can't be a mistake and it wasn't an accident.
Both my grandparents walked through dead German soldiers gunned down by their regiment either on land or swamps, one in Japan, and the other in Europe. As conservative as both were, they would like to have known all the danger they were put through was all in vain. Here the U.S. comes along and takes this man in like a hero and builds government buildings to honor him. A slap in the face to all Veterans. The patriotism you show is not for those who risked their lives to defend our freedom. If you had any Patriotism in your body, you would know to say what is going on on things like this, does not represent the people they pretend would stand by them defending this. We don't have Nazi America like they think we do and people of Jewish religion don't own everything either. The government is sabotaging it's people by ruining their reputations. |
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| Perfect example of overreacting to nothing! God Bless your grandparents and their experiences, but this has nothing to do with the building footprint. |
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I disagree that we should pretend to uphold such ignorant mistakes and pretend they were just accidents. We are America and we don't make accidents. The people that run this government were educated in colleges renowned for creating perfect people. Harvard, Standford, and any over priced over publicized college you can think of. They are taught to plan other people's future and to pick a stand young. They are just following through with what path they chose.
The building couldn't be seen any different that a Nazi symbol and the government had to have known this. Stop thinking the government is so simple minded. If they were, then how could you trust them with warheads, public money, etc., etc.. If they were so dumb after defeating this leader in a world war not far from that day in 1960 or at least close enough, that they would accidentally build a building embedding him as an icon, you would have to be wrong. This war was still fresh on everyone's mind. My grandfathers both fought in this war and they would never associate with a military company or building built similar to the horrible swastika. Can't be a mistake and it wasn't an accident.
Both my grandparents walked through dead German soldiers gunned down by their regiment either on land or swamps, one in Japan, and the other in Europe. As conservative as both were, they would like to have known all the danger they were put through was all in vain. Here the U.S. comes along and takes this man in like a hero and builds government buildings to honor him. A slap in the face to all Veterans. The patriotism you show is not for those who risked their lives to defend our freedom. If you had any Patriotism in your body, you would know to say what is going on on things like this, does not represent the people they pretend would stand by them defending this. We don't have Nazi America like they think we do and people of Jewish religion don't own everything either. The government is sabotaging it's people by ruining their reputations. |
What are you talking about? ''...dead German soldiers gunned down by their regiment either on land or in swamps, one in Japan,and the other in Europe.'' Are you trying to say that your grandfathers were in combat in WWII? What man did we take in ''...like a hero...'' & what building do you imagine was built to ''honor him'' You seem to be Very confused about this. This stupid article was written & posted to try to suggest that this building was Deliberately built in the form of a swatistica & that the government is now trying to cover it up. I agree with Greeney: God bless your Grandparents for their service, but this building's footprint has absolutely NOTHING to do with nazis, or any imagined ''tribute'' to nazism, or any ''plots'' to ''ruin'' Anyone's ''reputations''. The point of this Stupid article is to try to suggest that our government is ''embarrased'' by the appearance of this building, & that we are going to spend $600,000 to try to ''hide'' it's appearance from the air. The Entire article is just another example of propaganda. Who cares? Besides those who want to post ''bad things'' about America? Learn some Real history! Please. |
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