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Posted: Tue Oct 07, 2008 5:09 pm Post subject:

well it is a hard concept to go into much, i do agree with you.....

i also agree with edgar cayce...or rather the being he was channeling, when he said "all elements outside the human body (i.e. in the universe) also exist within the human body.

in other words...again...we are inseperable from the universe....not only that but it is not the REAL universe we should learn to move beyond but the 'perceived' (limited perception) universe.

i certainly believe i am the universe and the universe is me.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 2:03 am Post subject:

Interesting concepts, I must say. Your thoughts give reason for more thought on this question that has perplexed me for some time. Drawing from the poet's words, “Everything except language knows the meaning of existence”, I've tried to look closely at the language presented here. It's interesting to read how we perceive the meaning of existence through our language. Language may not know the meaning of existence, but I believe the words we use are essential to our existence. Which brings me to those that believe the meaning of existence can be found in the bible, often referred to as the word. It begins in Genesis where God tells Adam and Eve NOT to eat from the tree of knowledge. The bible being the tree and the fruit being the words(my interpretation). To NOT believe in the words, to NOT read the words,which mostly consist of do this, don't do that, OTHERWISE YOU'LL BE KICKED THE HELL OUT OF THE GARDEN! Words tend to divert us from the meaning of our existence depending on their interpretation. Yes, I believe words are essential to the meaning of our existence. Who will hear? Who will see? Who will realize? Who will understand? If one listens closely, one might hear, words of love that whisper soft and true.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 5:47 am Post subject:

Their fundamental premise is that there is something inherently bad about being human,which is one of the reasons why their empty talk of love is so hypocritical.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 11:49 am Post subject:

What is the meaning of life?

Is this a serious question? Would you ask a dog what the meaning of life was? No you wouldn't. We are not the end all be all of the universe...suprise suprise.

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Posted: Thu Oct 09, 2008 12:32 pm Post subject:

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What is the meaning of life?

Is this a serious question? Would you ask a dog what the meaning of life was? No you wouldn't. We are not the end all be all of the universe...suprise suprise.

So basically, you have nothing to offer. The extent of your input is limited to making disparaging comments downplaying anything that anyone else has said.

Oh, that and making threatening posts to others when they best you in a battle of wits.

You really are pathetic.

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:14 am Post subject:

Nesaie wrote:

Hey TNuke, no swearing please. Of all the forums, this is the last one that should have profanity. Thanks.

OK, I'll give it a shot but I'm not promising anything.

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Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 9:49 am Post subject:

Wow, some interesting posts here, albeit a bit existential. Maybe I could inject just a bit of science. The brain is a pattern recognition machine. All "ideas" or "concepts" are the combination of a recognized pattern(s) plus the supporting and contradicting data, obtained through the senses and stored in memory. The brain applies filters to the data to purposefully recognize patterns. The brain wants to see patterns. Philosophy is really just a set of concepts applied to historical events (the data). The patterns are categorized and the formation of concepts occurs as a result. That's why people pigeon-hole everything and why people like lists. Unfortunately, though, the senses are not perfect nor is the process of filtering and concept formation. Also, memory storage and retrieval is imperfect. Almost all concepts carry with them both supporting and contradicting data. For example, we believe in the concept of norms or rules (patterns) but we also remember exceptions. Both are important.

Dreams are the brain using all those spare cycles it has when it isn't taking in much input from the senses, so it runs "movies", created from stored data, sometimes in rapid succession, in order to try and derive more patterns that it couldn't recognize when you were awake. Many dreams are the brain trying to get your emotional processor (oops, I forgot to mention processors) to perfect its own pattern recognition (i.e. dealing with emotional life). When the brain is operating correctly you should not remember your dreams as the memory for them is supposed to be cleared when you wake up. Remember, the purpose of the movies was to create more patterns, the movies themselves are irrelevant. Dream interpretation may have some use though as it tells us what your brain is trying to deal with.

Processors are neural net collections that perform specific functions. Emotion is a processor, imagination is a processor, fear is a processor, rationalization is a processor, not to mention all the autonomic functions. These collections of processors make up the mind.

Sorry, I had counter-balance the existentialism.

As far as the meaning of life... we decide that ourselves. "Meaning" is just another pattern.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:08 am Post subject:

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Is this a serious question?

Yes, to some it is.

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Would you ask a dog what the meaning of life was? No you wouldn't.

If a dog could master a discernible language, learn to use the computer, and have an IQ of at least 100 or more, you betcha. Wink

Sorry to say, but you only possess 2 out of the 3 qualifications I have for a dog. Guess which two. Laughing

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We are not the end all be all of the universe...suprise suprise.

We are PART of of the end all, be all of the Universe bright boy. The question is one that has been asked for thousands of years. I'm 100% sure no one has asked a dog this question.

What's the meaning of existence, theking? Twisted Evil

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 11:49 am Post subject:

Personanongrata wrote:

theking wrote:

What is the meaning of life?

Is this a serious question? Would you ask a dog what the meaning of life was? No you wouldn't. We are not the end all be all of the universe...suprise suprise.

Of course I have nothing to offer, and no one else has offered anything even remotely noteworthy.

No one has bested me in a battle of wits. You regulars are recluses, not heroes of the free world and all that is right. You actually have to have wit to begin with, to win in a bittle of wits.

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Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2008 9:42 pm Post subject:

theking wrote:

The only thing you can rely on American civilians for are taxes...and sometimes they can't even do that.

So let's forget about this entire idea. And continue with what we already know rings true. American civilians = utterly worthless to global situations. Simple fact is, if we got invaded, I would trust you all far less than I would trust the enemy. The enemy is a fellow warrior, we are mirrors. I can predict him, and hopefully he predicts me incorrectly. I know he will try to kill me, and he knows that I will kill him first.

Civilians on the other hand are a mixed bag of treachery, pussyfaggotsyndrome, and the overall shitstain of all that America stands for. All 250+ million of them.

http://www.theblackvault.com/ftopic-70535-days0-orderasc-0.html

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Now that both you and I agree you are meaningless and worthless (you don't even rate to be expendable) to human civilization as it stands, we are getting somewhere on the intellectual level.

Freedom of Speech is the greatest facade I have ever come across. Some people honestly believe that their right to free speech means all of the sudden they have some sort of power, or they are important. It's the greatest form of mind control that could have been implemented, ever.

I mean, look at us. We are a nation divided, barely any support for either war, the President has like a 12% approval rating and all this American status quo hate rhetoric repeating itself on the internet is in the home of every teenage and emokid that can get on a computer.

Yet no one does anything except continue the American mill like nothing ever happens.

You know what I call this?

Indoctrination and mind control. Hats off to the masterminds behind this ideal.

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Personanongrata wrote:

King's words turn my stomach.

Personanongrata wrote:

Such arrogance, such contempt.

What does king fight for? Why does king fight?

I would seriously like to know.

theking wrote:

What I fight for - the person to the left and the person to the right.

Why do I fight - because I love this **it.

Content?

Personanongrata wrote:

Yes, I'm satisfied now.

You don't fight for ideas that will outlive you.

You don't fight for the betterment of human beings.

As you said, you fight for a thrill.

Probably an adrenalin junky.

You're just a tribalistic merc.

theking wrote:

Congratulations.

You've learned the simple math of 2 + 2 = 4.

Personanongrata wrote:

Not really a surprise, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

You're not a soldier. I don't care who you fight for.

You wouldn't know a true soldier if one kicked you in the ass.

theking wrote:

You're right. I'm not a soldier. Your guesses are pretty spot on so far. Would you like to continue playing the game?

Personanongrata wrote:

What's more, you're a disgrace to your country.

Were you a bandit robbing & murdering peasants, you'd be as happy as a pig in **it.

Hey, merc? Flip a coin, pick a side.

theking wrote:

You're luck has run out kid.

Insert $.25 to continue.

Personanongrata wrote:

Here are two pennies to help you keep your eyes closed.

theking wrote:

Thanks.

I appreciate the refund on your worthless 2 cents.

Personanongrata wrote:

Actually, my two cents are worth two cents.

By itself, of little value, but with the cumulative voices of other Americans it can add up to some real change.

You, however, are a merc who really should shut his dumb mouth.

Don't think you can come here spouting off like a bigshot talking shite to the real damned americans without getting slapped down.

This country don't run on fear, no matter how brainwashed some are to believe otherwise. You better wise up and get with the program... son.

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You are typing like an emotional little bitch right now.

If you want to talk down to me using terms like "bigshot...son", I suggest you drink a few 12 packs, grow some hair on you chest, then revisit the subject of me (in general) excluding all the self glorified crap. I don't need to glorify myself in some holistic manner to tell you all that you suck.

And I am neither soldier, nor am I a worthless merc. But what I am, is on the internet. And what I am on the internet, is essentially whatever you want me to be, not what I want you to percieve.

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Personanongrata wrote:

Oh, you don't like it, huh? Poor baby.

Your trap... shut it.

Personanongrata wrote:

Big bad merc can dish it out, but can't take. Laughing

Get back behind momma's skirt where you belong.

Personanongrata wrote:

Merc doesn't like to be talked down to... merc doesn't like being told to shut up... Rolling Eyes

Luckily, merc is in America where his right to chime in with his stupid opinion is defended by americans who **it more character than he'll ever muster.

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No, not quite.

I just found it rather odd that you would so hesitantly throw names at me, and then immediately afterwards or prior to, go on this long diatribe of self-justification.

It's like you had to work yourself up to insult me on the internet.

I find that rather pathetic.

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America is the most War like nation on the planet. You aren't the only veteran in this nation hotshot.

I can't say I would feel comfortable with you watching my back. Perhaps you should remember one day you to will be civilian again.

What is this mission you speak of Question

Bombing mud huts with million dollar lazor guided bombs? Or blowing the holly crap out of civilian occupied cities? Maybe it's that Iraqi Freedom thier always pushing! Freeing them of thier lives, diginity, oil, gold, cash and anything else that isn't nailed down.
And if they don't like it prison and torture awaits!

Just reading your post it's clear you wouldn't give turning your weapons on your own people a moments pause. Just give the order Sir!

The whole damned American Army can barely maintain control of Bagdad.
The American people would hand you your ass Rambo Exclamation

Personanongrata wrote:

No, not quite, merc.

I'm just treating you to the soft glove.

Keep running your mouth at board members & you'll get another heapin helpin, you joke.

theking wrote:

I would imagine you would need to say something moderately offensive to really be in the stance you currently feel you are in.

It seems you have inserted your own deus ex machina which no one can figure out, and you are now heading into the land of fairies, rivers of strawberry milkshake and overall delusion.

theking wrote:

You don't pay close attention.

You don't know context clues when they slap you in the face.

Your reading comprehension is terrible. You should revisit my post, and yours, then if you are still unclear, ask me these same questions.

And if that's the case I will refer you back to this post.

Personanongrata wrote:

Whereas you are riding the bigmouth train into a world of hurt.

You're a joke, still.

You become more of a joke with every post.

Hush, little baby.

theking wrote:

You're a civilian who bemoans the world on a website. Enough said.

As for me, I am whatever you want me to be Cool

Computer_Guy wrote:

Civilians do not call each other civilian. However, cops and military do use that term. Therefore I assumed you were military or some connection thereof.

Of course that was before I realized I was wasting my time.

Personanongrata wrote:

You're an honorless merc who fights for the highest bidder, and disrespects America by sucking up our air to exhale your spineless trashtalk.

I gave you a chance. You made yourself clear.

You can't back it up now, merc... ya can't flip it.

Take it like a man. Or maybe that's asking too much? Fake it, then.

theking wrote:

I officially decided to not reply to your post with any mere thought after coming into contact with this line:

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What is this mission you speak of?

Mostly because it has nothing to do with anything I said, thus I don't care.

Personanongrata wrote:

You've got a point. The merc is a waste of time.

theking wrote:

This is quality entertainment.

That post sounded like something someone of your calibre would have needed to practice in a mirror for. Did you type that all by yourself?

http://www.theblackvault.com/ftopic-70535-days0-orderasc-45.html

Personanongrata wrote:

Oh, merc, let those zingers fly. Laughing

You couldn't scratch my ass if you were a bobcat.

I'm done with you now, merc. Buh-bye. Wink

theking wrote:

Before you go, I want you to know that I know that the reason you are going to sleep heavy minded tonight is because of me.

Just to clear up any misunderstandings.

Personanongrata wrote:

Threats don't work on me, merc.

Unlike you, my measly lifespan pales in comparison to the ideas I love.

You're a chump. You don't intimidate me, chump.

You're not even good at being a bully, chump.

http://www.theblackvault.com/ftopic-70535-days0-orderasc-60.html

See if you can understand this, king:

The people do not exist for the convenience of the government.

The people are the government.

Take your time. Figure it out.

Oh, and btw...I slept fine. Better than I had in awhile, in fact.

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Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:39 am Post subject:

Wow, I guess my brain thing didn't help. Hard to carry on a conversation with all the bickering and name calling (theking!) isn't it? Well, he lives in the right town, D.C.

Oh I forgot to add... Your brain, and hence you, are here to recognize patterns, and it takes time to develop the skills to recognize the more complex ones, so maybe the meaning of life is to live long enough to give your brain the time it needs to do that. You have to experience good and bad things to enable your brain to recognize the difference. Maybe that's why God lets bad things happen.

Either that or we're just DNA factories. This fits well with what the alien from Roswell said, if you believe that story.

"Let him who seeks continue seeking until he finds. When he finds he will become troubled. When he becomes troubled he will be astonished and he will rule over the All."

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:41 am Post subject:

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The people do not exist for the convenience of the government.

The people are the government.

See if you can understand this:

Government is not easily replaced.

The people are. Sex is a beautiful tool, happens regardless of situation.

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Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 3:08 am Post subject:

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Sex is a beautiful tool, happens regardless of situation.

The "government" can control everything, but humans can't seem to control their "sex-drive??" Pitiful, ain't it. Rolling Eyes

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