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Iconoclastic1
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 Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 3:56 am Post subject: Re: History channel , debunks conspiracy theorists. |
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Any one watch the History channels show on 9/11 yesterday?
they started from the towers comin down, to the crash in PA, The Pentagon, the people terrorists that did it.yup still just 19 of them.they used every argumant that the conspiracy loons have been spewing.
It was really well done. they basically came to the conclusion that these conspiracy people are in fact crazy,nut jobs that have no evidence to back anything they say.Even when faced wth overwhelming evidence they can not accept it as fact. They go back to their delusions.
It showed how easily explained everything on that day really was when you use science and common sense.
Had the freak from Loose Change on there ,and they just made him look like the fool he is. also howe he manipulated facts ,and eveidence from that day to make his theories look more beleivable. It was really bad , how they just ripped every thing he said apart with a fine tooth comb.
I hope some of you conspiracy freaks got a chance to see it, It would have educated you to what really happens on Earth. Then again I'm sure you couldn't sit there for an hour to watch multiple experts tell you how stupid you are.
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Surely you jest.
Namecalling is the "dis-infoman" forte.
In order to see the big picture you have to travel back in time to the founding of this nation.
Despite the hard work of the founders the US Constitution was immediately being dismantled by the monied aristocracy. Thomas Jefferson warned of the danger of allowing the bankers to control the money as well as what would happen if the media ever came under their control. Unfortunately, it did. You are out of your mind if you think otherwise as it it has been going on for years.
In 1933 War hero Major General S.M. Butler wrote a book titled "War is a Racket" which neatly explained the Military ndustrial Complex and the elitists that already profiteered by the use of your relatives as cannon fodder to enrich a few. YOUR life means NOTHNG to these people. THEY DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU!
Let's proceed to the "think tank" known as the PNAC. Founded in 1998 by the likes of "Dick" Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld, and populated by the likes of Paul Wolfowitz. Jeb Bush, Phillip Zelikow, Dov Zakheim, Richard Perle, William Kristol, John Bolton and many other "neo-cons" ths group (that later inhabited the White House, in my opinion through the 2000 election coup and Cheney's lon time connections withinthe courts) wrote a dossier in 2000 titled, " which called for
Rebuilding Americas Defenses" which mapped out plans for the invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran and Syria. This document also planned, (prior to any attack on 9-11) a strategy for usurping the Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline (where all our military bases in the region are runnng parallel) as well as the Caspian Sea oil and gas treasure trove to, in the words of Zbigniew brzezinski in his book The Grand Chessboard become the "sole global power" or American hegemony.
Though George W. Bush has been labeled "inept" he has gottene EVERYTHING he has wanted since the attacks of 9-11. How convenient and "coincidental."
I am fascinated with those that believe in the "ineptitude" theory and reason that the government screws everything up. I agree that the government DOES screw up repeatedly, but I am not talking about the government per se, but rather a small faction from within with a mapped out strategy and control over our entire system of government to a point where they flagrantly violate the U.S. Constitution and get away with it.
Those of you that think that this Hstory Channel "hit piece" actually answers anything are mindless automotons that have lost all ability to reason based on the facts. You have been handed another "9-11 Commission Report" filled with more holes than a pin cushion and accepted it as true.
Please answer me this. Aside from the governments constant changing of the story to fit their version, and depite the fact that they LIED about the air quality in NY and all Iraq related intel has been proven to be fabricated lies, how do you account for the so called "annonymous" put options placed on United and American Airlines prior to 9-11, the fact that the millions won by those puts were never collected by this so called anonymous invester, the fact that this was not investigated by our mainstream media and the IMPOSSIBILITY of trading anonymously in the markets altogether?
I won't even go into WTC 7 yet.
You are cannon fodder, nothing more to those that are in control globally. Their handpicked puppets (Obama and McCain) are just smoke and mirrors to let you think you have a say. YOU DON'T!
"All the worlds a stage and you are the [unwitting] audience" |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 8:04 pm Post subject: |
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Are you going to copy and paste the same thing in every post you find, or can you come up with something more original ?
BloodStone... |
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| Maybe if you look into the put options at a site other than a ct site, you will understand better. If I have to, I'll do your work and find it. |
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YuvbinDuped
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| Maybe if you look into the put options at a site other than a ct site, you will understand better. If I have to, I'll do your work and find it. |
Indulge yourself.
Conspiracies are daily events. The government specializes in them. Stand back from the tree and see the burning forest behind it. |
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Ok i have to say, no here including myself can post fully neuteral links, boths sides post stupid either debunking sites or stupid conspiracy sites.
I try my hardest to find site or links that are fully neuteral but they are very few and far between. Everyone has an opinion and a veiw and everyone is right to disagree with eachother. Hey thats what makes the world turn around and hopefully makes us better as humans
But this is the one thing that sticks out for me. lets forget about the towers and how they fell. forget about Building 7. forget about the crash in pennsylvania.
I just want an answer or proof of this. I want 1, just 1. shot of a plane flying towards the pentagon. doesn't have to be hitting, just 1 clear shot of the plane flying towards the pentagon. Now we all know they do have this shot. it does exsist, they confiscated security tape from the service station and the hotel. So surely 1 clear shot exsists.
So why with SO much conjection about the whole 9-11 conspiracy, they could totally end it all with that 1 shot. So why not release it??
And if someone posts the pic from the pentagon security camera that they did release i am going to fly to america or where ever the hell they are and whack them over the head with a rubber dildo!!! |
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| Scared wrote: |
So why with SO much conjection about the whole 9-11 conspiracy, they could totally end it all with that 1 shot. So why not release it??
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Because...
*hint hint*
At the end of the day...
The U.S. government, despite your interenet ramblings, public outcries and defamation suits; does not care what you or I think. |
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Like you said bloodstone; the next installment can't be denied.
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| Scared wrote: |
Ok i have to say, no here including myself can post fully neuteral links, boths sides post stupid either debunking sites or stupid conspiracy sites.
I try my hardest to find site or links that are fully neuteral but they are very few and far between. Everyone has an opinion and a veiw and everyone is right to disagree with eachother. Hey thats what makes the world turn around and hopefully makes us better as humans
But this is the one thing that sticks out for me. lets forget about the towers and how they fell. forget about Building 7. forget about the crash in pennsylvania.
I just want an answer or proof of this. I want 1, just 1. shot of a plane flying towards the pentagon. doesn't have to be hitting, just 1 clear shot of the plane flying towards the pentagon. Now we all know they do have this shot. it does exsist, they confiscated security tape from the service station and the hotel. So surely 1 clear shot exsists.
So why with SO much conjection about the whole 9-11 conspiracy, they could totally end it all with that 1 shot. So why not release it??
And if someone posts the pic from the pentagon security camera that they did release i am going to fly to america or where ever the hell they are and whack them over the head with a rubber dildo!!! |
What I did was watched THREE buildings collapse to the ground, into their footprints at near freefall speeds and that was al it took. In other words, my eyes saw one thing and my gut felt another.
It is no conspiracy theory that the Cheney "thinktank" known as PNAC was very busy prior to the 2000 election coup.
It is no conspiracy theory that Cheney was made head of a new office which had control over all government agencies on May 8, 2001 known as the Office of National Preparedness.
The Cheney Energy task Force is no conspiracy theory.
That Cheney was in control of the war games (several of them one in particular about a plane hitting a building in NY that same day) being carried out on 9-11 was no conspiracy theory either, and the Norman Minetta 9-11 testimony under oath substantiates that.
It was no "coincidence" that Bush was scheduled for that Classroom reading agenda on 9-11 either, leaving Cheney in charge.
Call it what you want, but the Bush Administration has benefitted immensely from the attacks and the PNAC agenda was fulfilled. TRILLIONS have been spent and any moron can figure out that the cream off of the top of Trillions is measured in BILLIONS.
Cheney is the man of person of interest as far as I am concerned. It's my bet ol W was snookered and had no choice but to play ball or else. |
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Scared
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youvbin, i think you got the wrong idea from what i said, i have no doubt that there was sometihng shonky from 9-11
What i was saying was that debunkers will show you all these photos of the pentagon but no plane?? I am tired of heresay and speculation from both sides. if you wanna convert me to the government had nothing to do with 9-11 then show me a pick of plane hitting the pentagon. I have my opinions and views, ones which i think logically fit with what happened. it's pretty simple, the government knew what was going to happen and they just let it happen to use it to invaid iraq and afganistan. did they bring the towers down..... thats a question that no one can really answer. Neither side can prove it with sites you would have to do a scale version of the towers and try to get everthing right in a simulation. But no one is game enough to do it and i can understand why. you prove that the towers can't come down. you'd be dead very quick |
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Umm, how can showing you a pic of a plane hitting the pentagon prove that the goverment didn't let it happen, or that they didn't cause it themselves?
All that pic could possibly imply was that there was an actual plane involved.
Maybe you haven't been shown a pic because there isn't one?
Maybe no camera was on that spot when the plane hit?
Maybe the government just doesn't care what some fringe theorists think happened?
Maybe it's so absurd that people would need evidence that a plane hit the pentagon in light of the existing evidence, and the ridiuclousness of the alternatives, that they don't feel necessary to give out plane pictures?
Maybe anyone who would claim that no plane hit the pentagon is the type of person who would cry "Fake!!" as soon as footage/pictures were presented?
I mean, just look at the amount of footage available that show planes hitting the twin towers, and yet there are still no planers!
The possibilities are endless, but to take your position on what went on that day based on the existence or non-existence of one picture is just silly. |
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I understand what you are saying but there will always be "lizard people" types out there that will try and prove there point.
The reason i use the pentagon as the base of a conspiracy on 9-11, it's the only one that seems so far fetched with the level of damage to the building and lack of plane wreackage. The fact that there is shots of whatever hit the pentagon, if everything is so 100% truth, then release the footage from all security cameras.
I think you would shut a lot of people up with photos/footage.
you are still always going to have the crazies out there but things would seem more truthful and fit more into place then they do.
more than anything i used showing shots of a plane near the pentagon as a point. If the government has nothing to hide, show the shots. obvioulsy they do, so they don't show them. See the debunkers are always firm on that the governemet could never f*ck there own people over (I guess they've never had any problems with the IRS/ATO here lol) but thats the one thing that stuffs them up. that the government confiscated all the security tapes and don't release them and the BIG question is WHY??
Simple they have something to hide |
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