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Cole_Trickle
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 yeah that's it! It fell sideways, probably from a pancaked floor that was on the griddle to long!
Common sense is lost in any debate about 9-11 and that's all by design.
I see NIST has released building 7 and their final assessment. It's a joke of monumental proportions. The dead give away are/was two of the organizations invited, along with media, to the conference/presser/staged event.
9-11 Truth and " INFOWARS " both of these organizations are CIA-FAKES as Fintan Dunn has outed as being such long ago.
They begin with " silly conspiracy theorists " and finish with the usual " INSULTING THE DEAD OF 9-11 " and of course : " THE SCIENCE " and it being overwhelming. Pinpointing the culprit as fire brought on by falling debris which fueled office furniture fires that weakened " KEY SUPPORT " columns, which cause the key floor " 13 " to collapse
They built a huge computer model ( KEY WORD " HUGE " lol This was from CBS footage, the model that was. It explains everything!
They say that the public needs to get behind the science on this one that's why you'll see 9-11 truth and INFORWARS immediately start spinning more disinfo and holding rallies where insane little piss-ants yell through bull horns that " 9-11 was an inside job " and NIST is lying about Building 7. This is a guarantee.
One of the key points( WHICH HAS TO BE CONTAINED WITHIN THE REPORT ) is that they make it clear that JET FUEL and or KEROSENE had nothing to do with the fires or the collapse of 7. This keeps " PLAUSIBLY DENIABLE INFORMATION " alive and well within the confines of legality.
ONE and TWO fell because of fire from JET FUEL/KEROSENE after Planes struck. Yet Building seven was due to " OFFICE FURNITURE FIRES " Bet ya there were THOUSANDS of witnesses who saw " FALLING FLAMING FIRE CAUSING BALLS " in the debris! Oh brother don't taze me!
[/quote]World Trade Center 7 Report Puts 9/11 Conspiracy Theory to Rest
Conspiracy theorists have long claimed that explosives downed World Trade Center 7, north of the Twin Towers. The long-awaited report from the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) conclusively rebuts those claims. Fire alone brought down the building, the report concludes, pointing to thermal expansion of key structural members as the culprit. The report also raises concerns that other large buildings might be more vulnerable to fire-induced structural failure than previously thought.
By Arianne Cohen - August 21, 2008
The National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST) has released its long-awaited report on the collapse of World Trade 7 following the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. "Our take-home message today is that the reason for the collapse of World Trade Center 7 is no longer a mystery," NIST lead investigator Shyam Sunder told journalists at this morning's press conference in Gaithersburg, Md. "WTC 7 collapsed because of fires fueled by office furnishings. It did not collapse from explosives or from diesel fuel fires."
Conspiracy theorists have long pointed to the collapse of the 47-story structure as key evidence that the U.S. government orchestrated or abetted the 9/11 attacks......
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/research/4278874.html
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Oh and yes: please don't forget that focus should be placed on other " POORLY CONSTRUCTED " high rise buildings. NIST has called their safety into question Just imagine a plane hitting the Sears tower but rest assured current odds on that are 10 billion to 1 and 100 billion to one that if it did get struck that it would collapse in 11.5 seconds time into it's own footprint.
As for biased links  just a source and example of information within the public domain of which there are countless by now, only I recognize the propaganda based BS, as well as disinfo when I sees it 
You'll never get the real story on 9-11 and anyone who believes the " OFFICIAL THEORY " of 19 Arab/Muslim/Koran carrying, box cutting Hi-Jackers controlled by a CIA asset in a cave 10,000 miles away is a sad case for humanity and a bad example of the current educational system as a whole.
You have an event, a current event going on in Georgia, it's the kind of thing that the G8 would invent to disrupt the upcoming election, but hey they wouldn't be capable of that now would they! Wasn't it Georgia who ignorantly fired the first shot and then forgot to close the tunnel?
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Tbilisi admits misjudging Russia
By Jan Cienski in Tbilisi
Published: August 21 2008 19:21 | Last updated: August 21 2008 19:21
Georgia did not believe Russia would respond to its offensive in South Ossetia and was completely unprepared for the counter-attack, the deputy defence minister has admitted.
Batu Kutelia told the Financial Times that Georgia had made the decision to seize the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali despite the fact that its forces did not have enough anti-tank and air defences to protect themselves against the possibility of serious resistance[quote]
Who wants to bet less than 2% of the American population KNOWS Georgia is to blame for the mess in Russia? Oh they just Listen to the man for Texas and blame the Russians and begin pondering McCain. Send in the clowns!
source:http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/0d8beefe-6fad-11dd-986f-0000779fd18c.html?nclick_check=1
Some of us really need to pull back the proper layers before we spew things we've no knowledge of.( JMHO )
I'm sure the more read members of the BV have heard of, or even read a book or two by " Nassim Nicholas Taleb " I mean all the knowledge that oozes from the bowels and what not You can google him, google is a wonderful tool eah., makes everyone a genius in their own minds. Just one thing, he's not high school level stuff so read slowly, two or three times if necessary.
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Better get cracking on that science, CT.
Why in the world would a body respected world wide as one of the best building safety organizations want to have fools at the press conference? There is nothing stopping you or any other person or organization in the freakin' universe from doing your own investigation. Your little squad of stoopid can only sit on the sidelines and wait for your mental mentors to cherry pick quotes that they pretend, and you parrot, prove some kind of all encompassing conspiracy.
Think for a moment (on your own for once), is this supposed conspiracy so vast that the only ones not in on it are you and your fellow truthers? Are the perpetrators of this horrific crime so omnipotent so as to be able to fool everyone in the world but the elite truther squads?
The way you carry on about "disinfo" reminds me of the Pastor Martin Niemöller poem, except edited for truthers:
"In America, they came first for the Islamists, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t an Islamist: but the Islamists were disinfo:
And then they came for the Prison Planet members, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a Prison Planet member; but the Prison Planet members were disinfo:
And then they came for the DEWs, And I didn’t speak up because I wasn’t a DEW; but the DEWs were disinfo:
And then . . . they came for me . . . And by that time there was no one left to speak up, because everyone was disinfo except for me, and when I'm off my meds, I'm not even sure if I'm not disinfo." |
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Everyone seems to think everything is a conspiracy, and when its debunked, just take it to another level and say the history channel is a goverment pawn. Kill the messenger! I don;t think these people are conspiracy theorists, they are mostly anti-americans with an adgenda of anti-american propaganda that never ends. |
I'm not anti-american.
I'm just anti trauma based mind control.
I don't get much time to be anti anything else. |
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Cole_Trickle
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| Posted: Tue Aug 26, 2008 3:25 am Post subject: |
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The site is nothing but paranoid ramblings. I posted the number for the Arlington County Fire Department, give them a call and ask them if a plane hit the Pentagon. You guys are very sick and or stupid to spout the nonsense you spew. Get over it. 19 Arab hijackers attacked the US on 9/11/01. By denying this (which is supported with overwhelming evidence) you are shitting on the graves of all the innocents that died that day. Your silly non-movement has produced absolutely nothing in the way of evidence. All they have shown is that they can cherry pick quotes and use them out of context, a complete lack of a clue as to what a simile or metaphor is, and very bad science that a tour guide can debunk.
Take all your evidence to a prosecutor and see how far you get. Oh yeah, everybody except you is in on it. Step back and look at how pathetic your little theories are. |
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Yeah yeah yeah dvd DO you, r u stupid enough to think I'm afraid of you or any Fireman on this planet. Blow it out your ass son.
Pissing on the graves of the 9-11 dead, is that kind of like you supporting mass murder, is that it. You guys, lol WTF R YOOOO'S GUYS.
You're a very weak op in the grand scheme of things Pal, especially to see the obvious visual evidence of explosives turn a blind eye and call them " PANCAKES " How do you sleep at nights?
Now go back to your room and take your blankie! Take JFK, DISHONORING THE 9-11 DEAD, DEW, SPACEBEAMS, and Alex Jones as well ,along with the scare tactis, Aliens, and WTF else the cat drags in where common sense is concerned.
The really pathetic thing to all of this are people like you who are either gullible or flat out lying. 9-11 has far too many holes in it to stand up on it's own so they send in the clowns to prop it up. It's transparent as hell and flat out ridiculous.
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| Do you need me to repost the phone number? You can easily find it by scrolling up. You claim to not be afraid of firemen, so what have you got to lose? |
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Cole_Trickle
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A little birdie told me that AJ is in Denver lol ( OF ALL PLACES ) Spreading the Gospel according to FBI/CIA __he attacked Michele Malkin whos' working as a Fox News Correspondent BLOGGER TYPE
This is tooooooooooooo freaking funny people! Please stop before the History Channel does a documentary called something like " ALEX DOES DENVER "
BA WAAAA LOL~~
http://www.infowars.com/?p=4158
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8CIV7pS5nw
http://www.justin.tv/alexjonesinfowars/episodes?order=most_recent
DVD BOY You do realize your tax dollars are swirling down the drain into a cesspool of disinfo here do you not! AJ is good at preaching crazyness and painting the entire truth movement with the same infected brush. That's his job! Calls Malkin a FEMA LOVING NEO-CON She's a blogger who spews for FOX and in my opinion a piss poor one. This **it it staged/rigged eat it up.
Tell AJ to take two pills and go back to sleep his act is old as dirt! ( JMHO )
Watch the Cops let him play the role as instructed.
Pass that pipe! Quick!
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This last page has gone down like this.
Rational person:
"Well if you are so unsure about what happened to the Pentagon, why don't you call down to Arlington FD, I can get you their number."
Insane nutjob:
"I'm going to post these video links of THEORY and perscribe to that long before I listen to actual firsthand accounts!!!!"
Rational person:
"Did you atleast call them?"
Insane nutjob:
"I'm going to post more weblinks and put in a bunch of smiley faces to try to mask my frustration in dealing with the truth." |
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It's really ironic that some truthers think Alex Jones is disinfo because his theories are so stupid, while spouting theories themselves involving NO PLANES.
If I were a trutther, with a truther mindset, I would honestly almost certainly think Cole_Trickle was disinfo, because he's such a damn fool.
Look at the way he writes and conducts himself, the things he says, and the theories he backs, could there be a better disinfo agent? |
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You're nuts, it's as simple as that.
In my opinion here is the kind of person you are in a nut shell.
The second blond is cookie cutter pro official story of 9-11 from a MENTAL standpoint. It reminds me of the commercial where the two 4 year old boys are trying to pound a square peg into a round hole and amid the flying splinters the boy pounding the peg with a hammer stops and turns to the other boy. The other boy in his goggles says: " Don't worry just keep hitting it "
You're the Second Blond when it comes to 9-11 an absolutely perfect analogy.( IMHO )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UxxhYa8K0s
Fintan Dunn exposed Alex Jones as CIA along with his " INFOWARS " " Prison Planet " ( crap ) long long ago. Pretty Obvious what his role is when it comes to 9-11. All you can offer is the ignorant idea that people like me use him as an excuse. That's a joke in and of itself. I'm not bat **it Krazy and in my opinion Mr Jones is in a class all his own when it comes to Krazy.
Speaking of fools: Only two people would deny the holes in the official story of 9-11. A total FOOL or someone in Government employ of some kind. State employee with all the cozy benefits, Fed employee or similar. Maybe you guys should grow a set of balls and admit your ridiculously transparent BS. Kind of like the dumb Blond in the video should just STFU and go away. ( JMHO )
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Why would the gubmint need Alex Jones to discredit the truth movement when:
a) The truth movement is a farce that isn't going anywhere, after all this time, they have made no ground. They have achieved exactly nothing.
b) The ideas of the regular truthers are easily as absurd as anything Alex Jones has ever come up with, and
c) You exist to do the work for them
At this stage, the whole disinfo nonsense would seem completely unnecessary.
You guys are ridiculous. You're either hailing someone in the truth movement as some kind of God, or, if you disagree with them, labelling them disinfo. That's why everyone well known from Fetzer, to Wood, to Jones, is either the one guy whose finally cracked the case, or he's disinfo, and you're all pointing fingers at each other.
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Speaking of funny only it's far from it, it's actually a very sad thing and that's that there are people who can look at this photo with a straight face and call it a gravitational collapse brought on by fire: These nuts say totally stupid stuff in debate like this: " How do you know? Have you ever seen a 300,000 ton building collapse before? So lame it's 5th grade. Where's your evidence? Where's the Alien? How about JFK?
Show me chunks of building breaking off in the collapse instead of the obvious de-constructive forces of energy over and above that of gravity. Oh how do I know that The freaking thing is exploding into dust just as the eye can plainly see. So much so that the debris field was a whopping few feet tall out of 1,360 feet.  IMPOSSIBLE.
It's really ridiculous to argue or debate about something so obvious.
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It is funny to talk about collapse of a sky scraper due to fire damage with a man who has zero knowledge of physics or structural engineering...or in fact, anything.
Do yourself a favour, and read up on the physics of the collapse.
Here is a good start and a thorough description of exactly what happened when the towers fell, and what cause the ejection of debris and dust you see in those photos...or, you kno, just label it disinfo and ignore it like you usually do
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| The freaking thing is exploding into dust just as the eye can plainly see. |
Oh yes, the common truther paradox of the building "exploding into dust", then the complaints of the phyical remains of the building being carted off without being investigated.
You can't have it both ways, plonker. |
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