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Personanongrata
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| screamzero wrote: |
| Thank you for belaying our paranoia - i do feel better. A measly 50 to 100 concerted efforts across the land won't worry me a bit now.... |
At least you admit to being a paranoid conspiracy theorist now. |
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Must have something to do with the Christian ethic of believing that there's good in everyone if you just give 'em a chance. I think that's what we're doing, along with this weird concept called Reconstruction.
Um, I hope we do a better job than the _Union did in the South, but that was a different war.
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Is that why we're in Iraq? Because of our Christian ethics?
Is that lavish, 600+ million dollar embassy part of the "Reconstruction"? |
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Hey, our $600,000,000 slum in Iraq is just a vain attempt at keeping up with the Jones's next door in Dubai.
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OK, so,
then if the muslims are SO bad, then why are we wasting our time and money trying to SAVE the bastards for freedom?
is THAT what we are trying to do?
what are we still doing there?
we hit them, ( fair, kinda) so, lets leave!
we bad..
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Did I ever say Muslims are bad? Show me. Get that straight, and real good. Pay attention...now; Show me. Did I ever say Muslims are bad? Yes or no. |
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screamzero
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| screamzero wrote: |
| Thank you for belaying our paranoia - i do feel better. A measly 50 to 100 concerted efforts across the land won't worry me a bit now.... |
At least you admit to being a paranoid conspiracy theorist now. |
Those are your words finger pointer. Your welcome to them. Below is a non-conspiracy fact:
Based on an analysis by the Center for Immigration Studies of just-released data from the Census Bureau, this Backgrounder is one of the first to examine the socio-demographic characteristics of Middle Eastern immigrants in a systematic way. For the purposes of this study, the Middle East is defined as Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan, Turkey, the Levant, the Arabian peninsula, and Arab North Africa.1
Among the report's findings:
*Middle Easterners are one of the fastest growing immigrant groups in America. While the size of the overall immigrant population (legal and illegal) has tripled since 1970, the number of immigrants from the Middle East has grown more than seven-fold, from fewer than 200,000 in 1970 to nearly 1.5 million in 2000.
*The INS last estimated that 150,000, or about 10 percent, of Middle Eastern immigrants are illegal aliens. Preliminary Census Bureau estimates show a similar number.
*Assuming no change in U.S. immigration policy, 1.1 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) from the Middle East are projected to settle in the United States by 2010, and the total Middle Eastern immigrant population will grow to about 2.5 million.
The fact that Mideast immigrants are overwhelmingly Muslim does not mean that Muslims have replaced non-Muslim immigrants. The number of non-Muslims has grown as well, just not as fast. In 1970 there were approximately 160,000 non-Muslim immigrants from the Mideast in the United States and by 2000 there were almost 400,000. The non-Muslim immigrant population from the region, therefore, grew two and one-half times over the last 30 years. By contrast, the Muslim immigrant population increased 38-fold — from less the 29,000 to 1.1 million. This dramatic shift in the religious affiliation of immigrants from the region shows how our immigration system — which allows people into the country primarily based on whether they have a relative here or have won the visa lottery — has a logic all its own, creating social forces and trends not expected a generation ago.
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back902.html
..and 50 to a 100 is paranoid? Out of maybe 2 mill? Lets just say out of 1 mill, this way if I accuse you of being an being an apologist; I make myself out to be a hypocrite, K den?. Certainly your not paranoid about being pragmatic. Thats a shaving. Get out. Hell, we'll have more crime committed by non-immigrants in this country in a day by better than 100 times that...50 in a year or five considers the smallest of chances.
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All I did was agree that no one here thinks all Muslims are bad. Of course they aren't.
I guess you think it's funny because you disagree? |
I think ninor found your remark funny in a facetious way. |
Well, Ninor is funny. In a facetious way. |
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Scream and Tom;
You should know by now that if they can find a word, or a phrase, they will derail the thread, because they are losing the argument.
The problem is not that all Muslims are bad, because they are not, I firmly believe that the majority are NOT bad, just as everybody in this thread KNOWS. The radical terrorists are our targets. The problem with muslims all over the world, is that they do not denounce the bad behaviour of the people who are representing everything bad about their faith. They are not taking out their own trash, so to speak.
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His comment was not facetious...nuf sed.
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| Personanongrata wrote: |
| martiandrifter01 wrote: |
Must have something to do with the Christian ethic of believing that there's good in everyone if you just give 'em a chance. I think that's what we're doing, along with this weird concept called Reconstruction.
Um, I hope we do a better job than the _Union did in the South, but that was a different war.
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Is that why we're in Iraq? Because of our Christian ethics?
Is that lavish, 600+ million dollar embassy part of the "Reconstruction"? |
Probably. Losing your touch, unaware of history, or both?
My compliments to the guys that kept the cost down to a mere $600 mil. Given that the Embassy will have twice the electronics of a B-2 bomber, that's cheap.
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