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Aquatank
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CCTV direct to police First comes the schools and the comes regular workplaces and stores then more on every street corner, " the ability to digitally timestamp and archive the video should discourage bad, even criminal behavior." Hi Big Brother! "It doesn't hurt that people know and that if something is going to take place at your facility, if it does deter people from doing that, it's an added benefit,"
http://wcbstv.com/technology/surveillance.demarest.cameras.2.565939.html
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On and added note the repeal of Community Protection Act vote did appear on some of Ohios, but these votes will not be counted even for sampling purposes since it was not officially supposed to be on the machines. You'd think politicians would have liked to know what the voters actually think, but not in America. |
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| What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think? |
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| What do you think of Obadiah Shoher's views on the Middle East conflict? One can argue, of course, that Shoher is ultra-right, but his followers are far from being a marginal group. Also, he rejects Jewish moralistic reasoning - that's alone is highly unusual for the Israeli right. And he is very influential here in Israel. So what do you think? |
uh, here's the site in question: Middle East conflict |
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Aquatank
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| I'm not sure what the connection between Israel's own moves and the trend towards fascism in the USA. I get that Israel has its own fascist nationalist march in the Greater Israel/Ersatz Israel which is parallel to the Third Reich's Greater Germany and the USA's own Manifest Destiny doctrines. But I need to see where your putting it together better. |
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Aquatank
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Seems Bill Moyers and I are running in the same direction of opinion to a certain extent as pointed out by his article Democracy in America Is a Series of Narrow Escapes, and We May Be Running Out of Luck. ( http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/17/9016/ )
I look back and I see the two last presidential elections and the word "Stolen" scribbled all over them, an the words "To be stolen" scarwled all over the forth coming ones. What I'm not seeing is the words "presidential election repealed by the people" what I am not seeing is "Paper Re-vote ordered in the state of ..."
And why don't I see these, and the only answer is that we are too much like 19th century Germans, that far too many of us have been conditioned to accept as final all votes even with massive vote fraud discovered as irreversible. Do you really think a winner who knows quite well s/he was cheated into office is going to have enough honor to order a re-vote? Do you actually think a petition will get enough signatures for an emergency election re-vote to be done in a state let alone the Supreme Court recognizing the re-vote? We've been conditioned to accept authority, we amy b-h and whine all we want, but in the end we will never be able to successfully challenge a presidential election. We have an election coming up and both sides will cheat, because ALL the current candidates are dirty and corrupt to some level and if they aren't enough people in their parties are, and the American public will allow whatever cheat gets into office to stay in office because "we can't do anything about it". We the the American public do not have a law that allows us to recall a president on a vote of "no confidence" we are not allowed to challenge our leadership on a regular basis and make them accountable to the American public, we oust politicians by forcing their resignation for kinky sex with prostitutes or staffers because its' "Immoral" but cheating the US Public and being corrupt in the corporations & drug cartels back pockets is fine and dandy. We don't oust politicians for undermining the supreme law of the land; "the US Constitution" and having a copy of that law or upholding that law is grounds for suspecting us of terrorism. We are as conditioned as 19th Century Germans into obedience, our soldiers rarely question immoral orders and execute those orders on a regular basis (examples: http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/05/17/9026/ ) We ramrod minorites with our oppression, how can we justify continued land grabs from Native Americans sovereign territory, or how most of the prisoner in the US are black & minorities even though most of the crimes are commited by whites? How we justify inequal rights for women in nations we conquer and hold but gaurantee them at home? How long until Americans stop letting the ruling class rule and start electing the independent undercampauign financed uncorruptibles? Probably not for a very long time or ever, because we are just following orders. |
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Wonderful links Aquatank, thank you
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There must be some real idiocy in the court system when the 8th Amendment to the constitution is trumped by the Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Compensation Act of 1988 (Westfall Act). Seriously folks the use of this particular act to protect federal employees from being sued for criminal actions performed during their term of employment is what draws the strings of the bag in the genesis of this Fascist State of America. The bad guys can play badger in the bag with public and the accused all they want and be immune from prosecution.
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In January, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit dismissed a case filed by four former Guantanamo detainees who alleged that their mistreatment amounted to physical torture and religious harassment. It included allegations that a guard threw a Quran into a bucket used as a toilet.
The court agreed with the government’s argument that even if the ex-detainees, all British citizens, had been tortured, those who tortured them would be protected under the Federal Employees Liability Reform and Tort Compensation Act of 1988, which provides immunity in some cases to federal workers for actions done within the scope of their employment.
“Even if the detainees were to establish that the defendants authorized, implemented, supervised and condoned torture … the defendants’ conduct would nonetheless fall within the scope of their employment because the defendants were employed to detain and interrogate suspected enemy combatants,” the court wrote in its decision.
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Barrack Obama helps shred the contitution supporting a compromise on warrantless Wire taps.
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Sen. Barack Obama (D) of Illinois, in a break with many liberal party activists, said he would support it.
“Given the legitimate threats we face, providing effective intelligence-collection tools with appropriate safeguards is too important to delay,” he said in a statement after the House vote.
“So I support the compromise, but do so with a firm pledge that as president, I will carefully monitor the program,” he added.
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1st step: cops armed with Midazolam.
http://www.wsmv.com/news/16844880/detail.html#-
2nd step: rapid fire semi automatic tranq guns with armor piercing needles.
Look I'm all for LTLWs but injections are an open abuse of people's rights especially if an officer can switch the drugs and make a person look like they were on something illegal.
'hey look everybody they all died of poisoned kool-aid, we tried to stop them. No sir really I didn't mix Midazolam with cyannide honest.'-Bad Cop following orders. |
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First let I'm not an advocate of abortion, as much as I want to get this planets population size sorted out I do have problems with the abortion issue. But I also know the USA's population atleast is split about 50/50 on the issue, and that this new proposal is bad for any side. The reason is simple, it is in effect a political steamroller. I've seen similar laws to this in the past where the government says due this or we'll take away federal funding on such and such and then the state local or organization meekly comply thusly taking away rights without a vote or even so much as an acceptence. Its a do it or else thing, a deliberate yank of puppet strings.
The current proposal is involves certain medical personel's ethical values in the face of what they believe is unethical treatment. Most people are concerned with the explicitly stated government redefined definition of abortion. However this propsal goes beyond an abortion, to any medical procedure. And what it does is allow inviduals or small groups of extremist be they left or right to basically cut off federal funding to any hospital or medical care by mere threat of taking the issue to court. Sure the laws state you have to sue to win, but reality is often different when it comes to federal funding, it comes closer to extortion and blackmail when these pressures are applied. The current move is a completely a right wing move aimed at abortion but will probably include a host of procedures they may consider unethical such as transgender surgery, therapeutic cloning (including cloing specific organs only), stem cell research, AIDS prevention, and cross species organ transplants. The move doesn't have to be by a political wing at all and small groups of nurses and doctors within a hospital could easily shutdown federal funding.
The steam roller is easy to use and is one more intrusion of a fascist dictatorship into everyday life. It just takes a few skillfull manuevers of doctors into the right institutions, cause a controversy have it swing in favor or the proposal and you have medical institutions nations wide panicking in response and complying quickly. We jump at little things like terrorism, food scares, and lead in toys, scaring the medical profession with an easily reinterpted law is as simple as winning a restraining order in a civil case with no jury.
Watch to see if this proposal passes folks, acuse if it does it'll hit a lot harder than the Age 21 drinking laws.
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/07/31/10737/ |
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whatever you belive regarding illegal aliens in the USA, you should also believe in Human rights. The question now is this the beginning of our new genocide in the USA. Instead of gas chambers and concentration camps we starve people to death, and look the other way?
43 women and 150 children in the town of Potsville, Iowa have been fitted with GPS trackers restricted to the town limits and forbiddon to work. The reason: they're illegal aliens. Think about it, if it weren't for charity workers these people would starve to death. We desrve a better justice system than this.
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It's bad enough that anti-war groups get infiltrated and memebers logged into national criminal databases, and that that undercover police also purposefully instigate trouble at protests. Are anti-war & political pressure groups to be driven underground with clandestine meetings and wear ski masks to rallys to protect them from police harassment now even though in some cases the protests are confined to cages? How much further down this road must US citizens goosestep?
Why are we keeping these un-warranted tragedies against freedom, by making domestic intelligence gathering even easier?
http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/08/16/11030/ |
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Well a voting machine company Premier Election Solutions (AKA Diebold) is admitting to Ohio voting machines and others that drop votes, surprise surprise surprise. Interesting how that comes out just before an election its Republican buddies may lose. Apparently the ATM maker's machines have a problem with multiple memory cards and touch screens.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/08/21/ohio_voting_machines_contained.html
Really the solution for punch cards was easy, no chads, a D-cell circuit with a light buld and a connection made when the voting punch touched the otherside of the acrd. Really folks how hard is it to construct that as a modification to a regular voting machine? All it needed was laws preventing butterfly ballots and other schemes to confuse votes by election boards.
and of course if there are any Ferris Buellers out there reading your days may be numbered. Yes apparently in school RFID locator IDs aren't enough, time to get the GpS criminal ankle bracelets for truants. While most of us may agree to tracking criminals, and the occasional deliquent, it could always turn out that the pilot program in Bexar County Texas, could lead to GPS ankle bracelets for all students K-12 or ages 1-18. Easily done by alerting the parents to the dangers of abduction and the safety the GPS would have given them. This is a creeping form of a Orwellian dictatorship that fascism will fully take advantage of.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080823/ap_on_re_us/gps_monitoring_truants
(read it while you can yahoo news articles dissappper quickly.) |
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