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evutch
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gee, you DON"T think we contrive ways of starting things?
do you?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/
and THEN there's the WMD excuse that everyone is playing with again, and i just mention it because i notice three new threads about it, sort of a selling war going on and since i don't belive in coincedences i figure the powers are getting ready to pull that nonsense out again..
i mean, really, in less than a hundred days the orally challenged monkey is gone, give it up folks.. |
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matty_j
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Tonkin Gulf=Persian Gulf, and WMDs |
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gee, you DON"T think we contrive ways of starting things?
do you?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/
and THEN there's the WMD excuse that everyone is playing with again, and i just mention it because i notice three new threads about it, sort of a selling war going on and since i don't belive in coincedences i figure the powers are getting ready to pull that nonsense out again..
i mean, really, in less than a hundred days the orally challenged monkey is gone, give it up folks.. |
Are you suprised? Regardless of who takes over as president there still will be intentions to take iran to war. And there will also be some BS excuse as to why we are taking them to war, i only hope that the aus government doesnt follow in the same footsteps as your own just like we did in afghanistan and iraq.
Although im sure we will....  |
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okiejack
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:12 am Post subject: Re: Tonkin Gulf=Persian Gulf, and WMDs |
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gee, you DON"T think we contrive ways of starting things?
do you?
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/07/31/cheney-proposal-for-iran-war/
and THEN there's the WMD excuse that everyone is playing with again, and i just mention it because i notice three new threads about it, sort of a selling war going on and since i don't belive in coincedences i figure the powers are getting ready to pull that nonsense out again..
i mean, really, in less than a hundred days the orally challenged monkey is gone, give it up folks.. |
Are you suprised? Regardless of who takes over as president there still will be intentions to take iran to war. And there will also be some BS excuse as to why we are taking them to war, i only hope that the aus government doesnt follow in the same footsteps as your own just like we did in afghanistan and iraq.
Although im sure we will.... |
Well as soon as you guys are elected President. You can straighten everything out. Since you both are so knowledgable being eye whitnesses to the Tonkin Gulf incedent and the run up to the Iraq war. I can't wait until you guys get in office so we can be amazed. |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: Re: Tonkin Gulf=Persian Gulf, and WMDs |
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| Well as soon as you guys are elected President. You can straighten everything out. Since you both are so knowledgable being eye whitnesses to the Tonkin Gulf incedent and the run up to the Iraq war. I can't wait until you guys get in office so we can be amazed. |
Well i suppose you have the answers then all knowledgeable one? I could guarantee that if some on here became president they could do a better than Bush thats for sure. What are you're own thoughts on this okie? |
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| Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Tonkin Gulf=Persian Gulf, and WMDs |
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| matty_j wrote: |
| okiejack wrote: |
| Well as soon as you guys are elected President. You can straighten everything out. Since you both are so knowledgable being eye whitnesses to the Tonkin Gulf incedent and the run up to the Iraq war. I can't wait until you guys get in office so we can be amazed. |
Well i suppose you have the answers then all knowledgeable one? I could guarantee that if some on here became president they could do a better than Bush thats for sure. What are you're own thoughts on this okie? |
I don't click on Evutch's links. For personal reasons.
I think President Bush is the best President I've seen. His conduct of the war on radical muslim terrrorism is a stroke of genius. Attacking terrorism on two fronts and ralling the rest of the free world against radical muslim terrrorists is an astounding feat. Especially under such a negative atmosphere created by the terrorist supporters. President Bush has prosecuted the war on terrorism successfully, inspite of all the anti-freedom mongers in the government pulling every teasonous crime in the book.
I was in the military when the Tonken Gulf incedent happened. I was not in the Gulf of Tonkin that day and did not see what happened. But I did do a tour in Nam and know that we won all but a very few of the battles. Even with our hands tied by redicuous ROEs we kicked Communist butt. I also know what happened after we cut and ran from Nam abandoning our friends that we had promised to help. Over a million of our allies were murdered within a few years after we broke our word and left. There are a good number of military people who are still in SEAsia trying to help as best they can. The are on their own and are doing it because they love the SEAsians and believe in keeping their word. |
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Its amazing for me to imagine that this insodent is called overblown. Recalling the USS coal, and how it had a hole blown into it killing about 20 sailers, by a small boat that was very near, than exploding on contact seconds later.
I think Iran is well aware of what they did. Provoking is US Aircraft carriar in a war zone, or at all for that matter, borders on an act of war. There is a fine line beween provoking and that act of war, and its divided by mear seconds. Zipping around near the ship is provoking and given the USS Coal attack, it would not overblown to be ready to blow them out of the water the instant they turned tward the ship. Iraq continually provoked things by violating just a little the no fly zones. They did it for years on a regular basis, just enough to cause an uproar, and in one case assign another Carriar to the gulf. Iran is doing the same thing, provoking US ships by entering eminate distances to be regarded as more than potentially hostile.
These countries are very sly. They do these things thru terrorists, that on the surface can not tie this to a government. They know exactly what they are doing. They are trying to fabricate a border insodent of international waters insodent to taunt and play games with us with. |
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Oakie, i'd RATHER you just stayed off my 'links'..
go bother jaaack, or screamboy..
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Oakie, i'd RATHER you just stayed off my 'links'..
go bother jaaack, or screamboy..
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well.......any Islamic Radical agitators that enjoy the "I could care less" cool fools soft immigration welcome mats and sympathizers for peace w/ the "hate your monkey pig guts" crowd here are sure to find some comfort here in the States...at least 25 of 'em..until their favorite trigger is pulled...some measly human imperfection like self-righteousness maybe....what you good ole boys up there in rat land accuse the conservatives of in spite of your "righteous" little old choke hold on this Country's needed resources....might think twice if they clearly understood the total lack of tolerance some here have for whack jobs that would throw a homicide party at a couple of our power plants; bridges ; political rallies; sporting events; entertainment venues (sinful and all that) or theme parks here in the States...u know, make 'em think twice about goin' suddenly stupid w/ some long figured plan if we SLAMMED THE SH-E-E-YIT OUT OF IRAN...before they figure to get away w/ sumpin' dumber than a box of rocks - like us blowin' up or sumpin before they yiddle yiddle their tongues at us; just to set the record straight..that's all...it's the American way...just a little ole luv tap...not that that would discourage any creative jihadist jack hole....it surly wouldn't change your mind if they indeed did, or would it....but then that can't happen, huh....i say slam Iran if they blink. their leaders stink and their people want out of their yoke - ...God you know how to tease the stupid out of people  ...makes a fella feel down right good. Lovely beak you have....   |
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evutch
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| oakie, if you wouldn't mind, take this idiot with you............... |
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| oakie, if you wouldn't mind, take this idiot with you............... |
No Evutch I won't take you with me. |
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| Its amazing for me to imagine that this insodent is called overblown. Recalling the USS coal, and how it had a hole blown into it killing about 20 sailers, by a small boat that was very near, than exploding on contact seconds later. |
That incident was part of Bush's plan... gee, everybody knows that. |
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| Yeah, don't click the links. please! Don't expose yourself to any information that may be contrary to you warped, jingoistic justifications. |
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| Its amazing for me to imagine that this insodent is called overblown. Recalling the USS coal, and how it had a hole blown into it killing about 20 sailers, by a small boat that was very near, than exploding on contact seconds later. |
That incident was part of Bush's plan... gee, everybody knows that. |
Yeah, Bush makes a good patsy, doesn't he? Let's all focus on Bush, and ignore the fact that he is just one criminal out of many. Let's oversimplify it into a "I love Bush/I hate Bush" dichotomy... That way, he can undermine our government while looking like a bumbling cowboy to the dumbed-down masses, and then he can finish living out his life in luxury, satisfied to know he helped set precedents leading us into tyranny. |
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| oakie, if you wouldn't mind, take this idiot with you............... |
That's Mr. Idiot to you  Mt. B-e-a-k. Of course, we can sit around and chirp about it being all about the oil while we don't drill here...at all...democrat. (I know, I know worse than "idiot', but ya hurt ma feelin's.) Besides, how do you expect to inspire a theocratic movement without a little drama? Party pooper... |
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| Its amazing for me to imagine that this insodent is called overblown. Recalling the USS coal, and how it had a hole blown into it killing about 20 sailers, by a small boat that was very near, than exploding on contact seconds later. |
That incident was part of Bush's plan... gee, everybody knows that. |
Yeah, Bush makes a good patsy, doesn't he? Let's all focus on Bush, and ignore the fact that he is just one criminal out of many. Let's oversimplify it into a "I love Bush/I hate Bush" dichotomy... That way, he can undermine our government while looking like a bumbling cowboy to the dumbed-down masses, and then he can finish living out his life in luxury, satisfied to know he helped set precedents leading us into tyranny. |
You mean like the whack left passing fiat legislation? Ever-r-r-ybody in2 da p-u-u-u-l!  |
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