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Halfabo
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From: http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/mastodons-alive/
Sep 5, 2006
Source: Winnipeg Daily Free Press
Winnipeg, Manitoba
March 28, 1893
Alaska Indians Claim They Have Seen Them Running About.
The Stickeen Indians positively assert that within the last five years they have frequently seen animals which, from the descriptions given, must have been mastodons.
Last spring, while out hunting, one of the Indians came across a series of large tracks, each the size of the bottom of a salt barrel, sunk deep in the moss. He followed the curious trail for some miles, finally coming out in full view of his game, says The Philadelphia Ledger.
As a class these Indians are the bravest of hunters, but the proportions of this new spectacle of game filled the hunter with terror, and he took to swift and immediate flight. He described the creature as being as large as a post trader’s store, with great, shining, yellowish white tusks, and a mouth large enough to swallow a man with one gulp. He further says that the animal was undoubtedly of the same species as those whose bones and tusks lie all over that section of the country.
The fact that other hunters have told of seeing these monsters browsing on the herbs up along the river gives a certain probability to the story. Over on Forty Mile Creek bones of mastodons are quite plentiful. One ivory tusk, nine feet long, projects from one of the sand dunes on that creek, and single teeth have been found so large that they would be a good load for one man to carry. I believe that the mule-footed hog still exists; also that live mastodons play tag with the aurora every night over on Forty Mile Creek in Alaska. |
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Halfabo,
good find.. If you follow any of the Hollow Earth thoeries. you would see that it is beleived these great beasts have gone to the inside, and every once in a while another one finds it's way back to the surface.
Recently one was found , and when they carbon dated it they where amazed that it was not ancient,but rather very new?
I am trying to find the link to give you some more info on this.
Even when Admiral Bird declared he flew into the earth up near the arctic circle. He stated he saw these great beasts roaming the countryside, that was in the 40's I beleive.
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Thanks BloodStone,
I would like to read more info on the subject. I am familiar with most of the hollow earth theories, and there does seem to be quite a bit of evidence to back up some of the claims. I found this article while I was looking for something a little different. A couple of years ago, I found an article with photos of living mastodons found in one of the Asian countries. I haven't been able to find it again though. But, apparently there was a heard of at least ten animals living in a forested area. The heard showed definite features of mastodons and mammoths that "modern" elephants don't have.
I think I might have posted that article here when I first found it but, I can't remember. (man it sucks getting old.  ) |
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Tell me about it,
I can't seem to find the one I need either.
I'll keep looking.
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There were species of Elephant and Mastondon living in South America up until 400 years ago, and Thomas Jefferson had some good reason to believe Mammoth and Mastodon trampled the terra westward in the vast North American wilderness.
Very possible some of these Mastodon and Mammoth along with other fauna of the last Ice Age survived global warming and flaked stone projectile points of Pre-Columbian Native hunters.
I recall reading accounts of a Great Bear living far unto the Northern climes. |
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| BlackJim wrote: |
There were species of Elephant and Mastondon living in South America up until 400 years ago, and Thomas Jefferson had some good reason to believe Mammoth and Mastodon trampled the terra westward in the vast North American wilderness.
Very possible some of these Mastodon and Mammoth along with other fauna of the last Ice Age survived global warming and flaked stone projectile points of Pre-Columbian Native hunters.
I recall reading accounts of a Great Bear living far unto the Northern climes. |
A living Cave Bear? That would be interesting to find. Last summer my wife saw a wolf beside the road where we live. From her description of it, it sounds like a Dire Wolf. It was larger than a Great Dane, standing around four feet tall at its shoulders. |
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Great story, Halfabo. I'm currently reading the book Mammoth and just recently read Pole Shift (and no... Pole Shift is not a book about strippers).
Pole Shift describes extinction of the woolly mammoth in direct correlation to the shifting polar ice caps. The other book, Mammoth, reviews the history and the possibility of future cloning. 
It's important to realize that mammoths were subjected to numerous extinctions over millions of years. One interesting bit of info is that some Natives have claimed that the woolly mammoth, in dwindling numbers, were alive and well on the North American continent when "white man" began to arrive. The Natives claiming that mastadons are alive at Forty Mile Creek quickly reminded me of the woolly mammoth.
Are there mastadons still roaming around Forty Mile Creek? The Native Americans believe so. If true, does the current mastadon exist as an anomaly or as a clone? |
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Hey Bloo,
I've been looking through my books for a couple of days trying to find a Native legend I read a few years ago. I can't seem to find it now but, the I think I can remember most of it. According to one of the eastern tribes, there was one tribe of giants in America just before the white man came here. I don't recall if the story mentioned how big these giants were but, they rode elephants and used them to terrorized and control the neighboring tribes. There was one tribe that was being attacked by these giants on a ridge in one of what is now the eastern states. During the attack the Great Spirit intervened to save the tribe. According to the report from the legend that was passed down through the tribe, there were about a dozen elephants and their riders that were killed on that ridge. The surprising thing is that an anthropologist who had heard the legend began a dig on the ridge. He found the remains of several mastodons, and a few very large spear points. If I can find the book it is in I'll post more details. |
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| He found the remains of several mastodons, and a few very large spear points |
The Clovis people were noted for their use of the large spear point. In fact, the large spear point can be tracked with the Clovis as they traveled across the Bering Strait land bridge and fanned out across N. America. The Clovis point has been found at several archaeological digs, along with mammoth bones.
But enough of that... now you have me interested in the "giant people" that rode the mastodons. |
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If this is indeed a leftover from the Pleistocene, imagine just what else could be lumbering, crawling or running about over vast tracts of North American wilderness, or through our own backyards at 3:00 in the morning.
Mammut Americanum - The American Mastodont. About 10" in height with large upcurved tusks and shaggy fur, it was a cold weather mammal that no doubt retreated Nortward as the climate warmed at the end of the last IceAge. Others of it's kind living during the same time in North and South America were - Mammuthus Columbi, Mammuthus Primigenius and the Elephant-like Cuvieronius, which the last were hunted out in South America before the arrival of Europeans.
It is very possible some of these Mastodonts could of survived through the ages. What about these black Hyena-like animals that are being spotted in the MidWest ? Perhaps The Hyena Osteoborus that once scavenged and hunted over large parts of North America during the Pleistocene ? |
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This gives such hope for Nessie/Champ/Bear-lake monster..  |
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| It's entierly possible, 25% of North America alone is still un-surveyed on foot, it's just too dense to survey except for by air. |
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| Ah, the good old days when we weren't aware of all the creatures living on this continent and didn't populate every damn square mile of it. |
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