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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 12:05 am    Post subject: Black Space Program? Reply with quote
 
Here is a a very interesting extract from an article in the New York Times about secret military astronauts Published on August 7th 1989:

"When NASA lobbied the White House for the current shuttle in the late 1960's and early 1970's, the Air Force grudgingly joined the project, attracted by the idea but wary of yielding its pre-eminence in space to civilians. To White House budget planners, the costly civilian shuttle program made economic sense only if it launched all American space payloads.

In the late 1970's, amid great secrecy, the military began building a coast-to-coast organization to take advantage of the civilian shuttles to launch top-secret payloads like spy and early-warning satellites.

In 1979, the Air Force Space Division in Los Angeles founded the Manned Spaceflight Engineer Program, an elite corps of military astronauts that was to specialize in deploying top-secret payloads. Mr. Cassutt said corps members were told they would fly in space at least once. The secret program, he added, eventually trained 32 engineers and had an annual budget of about $4 million.

Its first member to ride the shuttle, Maj. Gary E. Payton, did so on Jan. 24, 1985. His name was made public but his role played down. Major Payton helped deploy what was believed to be an electronic intelligence-gathering satellite. A colleague, Maj. William A. Pailes, flew a shuttle into space on Oct. 4, 1985."

Here is a link to the whole article:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DEFD8173EF934A3575BC0A96F948260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=1

Any one got any thoughts on the secret space program.

I have to give Richard Dolan credit for finding this, he talks about it in his 2007 x-conference lecture, you can get a dvd of the lecture from his wife Karyn Dolan, just send her a email asking for it and she will tell you how to buy it. Here is a link to the site:

http://keyholepublishing.com/Karyn%20Dolan.htm
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Has anyone got any thoughts to share, perhaps this could explain some UFO sightings in space.  
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 24, 2007 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Just got done reading Dark Mission: the secret history of NASA. Their conclusion is that the NASA we have known for almost 50 years has been a lie. Moon missions and Mars missions are lies intermixed with maybe truths and crazy lies by aging trekkies. Just the section on the crystal towers on the moon is worth price.  

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2008 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
 
Loner wrote:
Just got done reading Dark Mission: the secret history of NASA. Their conclusion is that the NASA we have known for almost 50 years has been a lie. Moon missions and Mars missions are lies intermixed with maybe truths and crazy lies by aging trekkies. Just the section on the crystal towers on the moon is worth price.


Does this mean the NASA we know is a lie in so much as the real NASA does not have capabilities anywhere near we think or that they have capabilities far beyond what they lead us on to believe?
 

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