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greeney2
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All you liberial McCain and Palin bashers, gossup mongers, and rumer spreaders, guess what? In the past several days they have overtaken Obama's led. Pretty amazing after a week of your sexist bashing of Governor Palin, and barrage of age related or trash videos, when Obama should be a slam dunk already. God knows the last 8 years you same people have cried and whinned about Bush, and all started right in with McCain being just like Bush, than your campaign against Palin as Obama dumps Hillary from his choices. Either the public is convinced McCain is change or not unhappy someone strong like Bush is running. Obama, Biden, and Nancy Polosi as Speaker of the house, might just be sounding very very risky to Americans. Obama continues to falter in his persona, and Biden wasted no time sticking his foot in his mouth about Palin.
Talk about trash talk, rumors, and discrimination backfiring. I;m glad all you liberials are "helping" Senator Obama so well.
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GOP bounce: McCain overtakes Obama David Paul Kuhn
Sun Sep 7, 3:52 PM ET
John McCain has overtaken Barack Obama in the Gallup daily tracking poll and has his highest level of support in that poll since early May.
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McCain leads Obama 48 percent to 45 percent among registered voters, by Gallup’s measure. McCain has so far earned the same convention bounce as Obama, though at a more rapid pace.
Obama peaked at a 5-point convention bounce in polling published last Tuesday. He was ahead 49 percent to 43 percent in the Gallup poll conducted before the Republican convention. He then soared to 50 percent for the first time of the election, by Gallup’s measure, while McCain fell to 42 percent.
McCain’s 5-point to 6-point bounce so far, like Obama’s, remains at par with historical expectations. In the 22 major-party conventions since 1964, the nominee walked away with, on average in most years, a 5-point to 6-point uptick in Gallup’s polls. The presidential polling will likely remain in flux until the middle of next week.
Today's Gallup report continues to include some polling conducted prior to McCain's acceptance speech. Tomorrow's report will be the first to include interviews solely conducted following the close of the GOP convention.
Rasmussen’s daily tracking poll also reported today that when "leaners” are included, Obama and McCain are now tied at 48 percent. That means that, by Rasmussen’s measure, Obama’s 6-point bounce has been erased. CBS News polling had shown the same outcome midway through the GOP convention.
McCain’s resurgence in the polls comes as Nielsen Media Research reported that the Republican convention earned more television viewers than the Democratic convention. Republicans earned an average audience of 34.5 million, while Democrats earned an average viewership of 30.2 million.
Obama, McCain and GOP vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin all earned a similar and record audience for their convention speeches, each nearing about 40 million viewers. |
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Really, national polls do not mean anything considerable. It all comes down to the state-by-state electoral votes and the state polls within. For example, currently Obama leads McCain in the electoral college 228 to McCain's 200. 110 Votes are still in the "toss-up" category, including the state of Fiasco Florida 
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1360524.aspx
Here's the ECP (Electoral College Predictor):
Likely Obama: CA, CT, DE, DC, HI, IL, ME, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA (190 electoral votes)
Lean Obama: IA, MN, PA (38 votes)
Toss-up: CO, FL, MI, NV, NM, NH, OH, VA, WI (110 votes)
Lean McCain: AK, GA, IN, MO, MT, NC, ND, SD (64 votes)
Likely McCain: AL, AZ, AR, ID, KS, KY, LA, MS, NE, OK, SC, TN, TX, UT, WV, WY (136 votes) |
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Not true Aquarian, the electrorial count only differs by 13. Obama is projected now at 250 to 237 for McCain, with the swing states in the balance.
Your are right polls are polls, projections are projections, however when the polls have been done and reflect change its obvious the tide has turned.
Maybe you can explain why Obama, since "everyone" is so against Bush and McCain would be the same thing, why the polls wouldn;t show Obama way out in front? Polls showed Obama spiked up after his speech, and the polls showed a dramatic change in the last week since Palin and McCain speeches.
We have been saying all along, the decider may hinge on the running mate.
Just a little obseration, nobody is responding to this post, but look how many replies are on all the Palin bashing posts, with sexist trashing. I have to give you credit and says thanks Aquarian for not joining in on that travisty. Make no mistake, engaging in untrue, gossup related, trashing of either candidate is about the most UnAmerican thing you can do. |
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I guess many political websites make their own projections. MSNBC has 110 in the toss-up category, while yours has 13 in gap.
Anyways, I think McCain's closeness to Obama is mostly due to the fact that the media successfully depicts McCain as a maverick and independent, although he voted with his party 94% of the time and Bush 90% of the time over the last 8 years. He may have "achieved" that media-myth status because: He proposed a program to legalize the 12 million undocumented workers in the U.S. He sincerely opposes torture, as a survivor of it himself. He has apologized for denying global warming and now advocates a cap on greenhouse gas emissions but only if China and India can also be locked into the system. He is somewhat uncomfortable with the religious right (while supporting a ban on abortion and gay marriage and choosing Palin)
It is a sign of how far to the right the Republican Party has drifted that these are considered signs of liberalism, rather than basic humanity.
Yet these sprinklings of sanity -- onto a very extreme program -- are enough for a superficial, glib press to present McCain as "bipartisan" and "centrist."
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| Republicans tend to have the much, much larger swing voter turnout. That lead is nothing to scoff at. If McCain goes to the tables within 3% of Obama....McCain will win the Presidency. |
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My poll was the one you click on when you goto yahoo news. It shows polls and the USA map pf states and electorial votes.
If you like FOX or hate FOX, Bill O'rielly is having a several part interview with Obama. You know he will face tough questions. Starts tonight. |
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Really, national polls do not mean anything considerable. It all comes down to the state-by-state electoral votes and the state polls within. For example, currently Obama leads McCain in the electoral college 228 to McCain's 200. 110 Votes are still in the "toss-up" category, including the state of Fiasco Florida
http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/09/08/1360524.aspx
Here's the ECP (Electoral College Predictor):
Likely Obama: CA, CT, DE, DC, HI, IL, ME, MD, MA, NJ, NY, OR, RI, VT, WA (190 electoral votes)
Lean Obama: IA, MN, PA (38 votes)
Toss-up: CO, FL, MI, NV, NM, NH, OH, VA, WI (110 votes)
Lean McCain: AK, GA, IN, MO, MT, NC, ND, SD (64 votes)
Likely McCain: AL, AZ, AR, ID, KS, KY, LA, MS, NE, OK, SC, TN, TX, UT, WV, WY (136 votes) |
Texas. West Virginia and Kentucky leaning towards McCain ?
Would you call that the SlackJaw vote ? Bet most of those inbred fanatical freaks speak in tonguse as well. |
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Panic Mode Engage!
The Republicans are just trying to sling mud, call Obama and his camp sexist, and trying to scare people in order to get votes and it is very shameful. No one can say anything about Palin without being called a sexist. Which is wrong. Palin goes around talking trash about Obama all day everyday. Most of them lies! But nothing is wrong with that? One must realize that they have very little substance to work with so this will garner attention and divert many from issues that should be on the table but are not.
Republicans would much rather talk about nonsense than talk about the issues of Healthcare, Education, Economy, Global Warming and bringing our troops home. These are the issues that need to be discussed McCain and Palin should be ashamed of themselves. Most republicans worship the likes of O’reily, Limbaugh, Hannity, an their fake news because they talk of all rumors and gossip.
It’s the same song and dance every election there are rules, and then there are Republican rules. Every Republican is a complete hypocrite, just look at all the mud slinging that went on with Hillary Clinton, Sexist much? |
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Obama is a fool. Given the fact Palin's most quoted line from her speech is the Lipstick joke, his timing could not be worse. Anyone that doesn;t think it was his way of oneupping her punch line, is foolish.
Obama should have done the right thing, and just said, he wasn;t referring to her, and offered a heatfelt appolgy, but instead insults her further, by declaring it was fake reaction on McCains part. To make matters worse a Democratic leader for a southern state, one of the super-delegates made a wisecrack today, Palin's primary qualification is that she has not had an abortion.
Depleted, you are right about panic mode, but the panic mode is by the Democrates who today suck further in the polls. Today MaCain is over 50% and Obama down to 43%. Those are facts.
All your sexist talk, Biden being caught saying things this week, Obamas pig comment, the abortion comment, along with the badmouthing from every corner like right here have futher sunk Obama further.
Take a good lesson and know off you sexist attacks liberials and Democrats, you are only helping McCain. |
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Lipstick row is phony outrage - Obama
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,24328695-1702,00.html
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An NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll showed a statistical dead heat, with Senator Obama losing a three-point edge from last month. A CNN-Time magazine opinion poll showed the two candidates splitting the lead in four states widely seen as crucial to the election.
The poll showed Senator McCain leading in Missouri 50 to 45 per cent and in Virginia 50 to 46, while Senator Obama was ahead in Michigan 49 to 45 per cent and in New Hampshire 51 to 45.
But Senator Obama, professing no concern for the polls, said the true issues that will shape the November 5 election (Australian time) were being lost in the fog of campaign rhetoric.
"We have an energy crisis. We have an education system that is not working for too many of our children. We have an economy that is creating hardship all across America. We have two wars going on," he said.
"And this is what they (McCain and Palin) want to talk about," Senator Obama said, referring to the lipstick row.
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McCAIN: LIPSTICK ON PIG OK FOR HILLARY Sarah Palin Too Frail to Handle It?
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All your sexist talk, Biden being caught saying things this week, Obamas pig comment, the abortion comment, along with the badmouthing from every corner like right here have futher sunk Obama further.
Take a good lesson and know off you sexist attacks liberials and Democrats, you are only helping McCain.
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Actually, Greeney, the McCain campaign knows the context Obama used that quote in. Instead, they decided to take a clip of that remark and present it as sexist because most of the nation knows about Palin's sarcastic and shrill "key quotes" in the RNC speech. At one point during the Primary Season, McCain referred to Hillary Clinton's healthcare plan as "putting lipstick on a pig". Was he explicitly referring to Clinton? No. Was Obama explicitly referring to Palin? No.
Anyways, we need to talk about the important issues; these are just mere distractions. The real losers are the American people. I agree with Nader, Ron Paul, Bob Barr, and McKinney on very major issues: It's time to end the Two Party Plutocracy. |
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If we need to talk about issues than why has the last 2 weeks been filled with sexism twards Sarah Palin? Not just in the news but on this board?
Given the lipstick "punchline" by Palin, it was a definate jab to one-up that line, where when McCain used the saying, it was obvious it was about a program, not a counter to the same words used by Hillery. Extremely poor timing at best by Obama!
Lets just the benifit of the doubt than, Obama wasn;t doing what they said. Whats the big deal about being a gentlemen, and offering his apology to her personally, assure her that was not his intention, and be done with it? Obama flip flops everyday, but Obama can;t be a man and a gentlemen. Is that leadership?
I didn;t hear anyone lighten up for 2 weeks on McCain about his houses. He was just an old fool and liar to all of you, when the question may not have been that simple. People may have several homes, but they may not be all in their names. The questions was asked how many homes did he have? I'm sure he know the exact number, but how the titles are listed, is a different question. I would think many of them are in some trust or possibly in the wife corporate names, as investments. He wasn;t being an old fool, the honest answer was to do what he did. Homes titled in a trust or corparation, are technically by law a 3rd persons, so his answer was proper to have the accountant clarify that. Nobody cut him an ounce of slack, but you want Obama to have the benifit of the doubt.
The benifit of the doubt should go to the lady who has been treated with distain and sexism, by the Democrats who will do anything to get elected. She did no more than be a part of history to be nominated as the first woman to run for Republican VP. Maybe Obama doesn't think he should open the door for a lady either, as any gentleman does. |
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i've heard worse from the right about Clinton..
i just think that Clinton was a better pig than Palin.
and now she looks good to Barack as well.
too late.
who knew the dumbed down right would swallow?
well, get a double gulp.
Palin is a pig.
with lipstick.
you all got some REAL class there righties. |
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| Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Read it and weep! |
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| All you liberial McCain and Palin bashers, gossup mongers, and rumer spreaders, guess what? In the past several days they have overtaken Obama's led. ] |
Same ol', same ol' talking points.
And 20 Days later, Panic mode and Denial sets in.
"Read it and weep! " |
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