North Korea launches rocket
 
[L[Quote]] · 1963 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

SEOUL, South Korea (CNN) -- North Korea followed through Sunday on its intention to launch to a long-range rocket, defying a series of warnings from the international community and setting off a firestorm of criticism.

 

The North Korean government characterized the act as a successful, peaceful launch of a satellite into orbit. U.S. and South Korean officials condemned the launch as a provocative act. American military sources said the launch was a failure, saying that the rocket's payload failed to enter into orbit.

 

Full: http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/05/north.korea.rocket/index.html

[L[Quote]] · 1963 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

That whole thing is kinda creepy, especially considering I'm on the west coast.

I know they claim it was a failure, but they still keep trying...

[L[Quote]] · 1963 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

HA! They actually got the thing to take off? I'm suprised the bloody thing could even floated.

[L[Quote]] · 1962 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

Good thing we're safe with people in charge who will give this a good talking about.  Won't do anything, but cut our defenses, but they will sure give Kim Jong Mentally Ill a good tounge lashing.

 

I feel so safe about all of it that I'm getting jiggy wit it.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

And our appeaser in cheif wants to talk to the UN about it?

 

Wow the UN? Do they still exist? Come on, this boob wants us to be European , I am glad his appeasment tour ends today, maybe he can come back here and bad mouth us some more in person.Or maybe talk about the economy again, so the stock marjket can drop another 300 points.

 

Is anyone convinced yet that this man will be the end of us as a free nation? AU here we come. Can't wait for the mighty UN to take care of North Korea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

BloodStone...

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

Free Nation?

 

Sweden is more free than USA.

IF USA was a free Nation your goverment would pay your college and everything else you have the rights to.

And American,Europeanor whatever, all systems are wrong and should be banned forever.

 

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Free Nation?

 

Sweden is more free than USA.

IF USA was a free Nation your goverment would pay your college and everything else you have the rights to.

And American,Europeanor whatever, all systems are wrong and should be banned forever.

 

  The USA is a free nation so long as you have to money to buy your freedom.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

As I said, there is no freedom Wink

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

DARK- SAMUS WROTE:

IF USA was a free Nation your goverment would pay your college and everything else you have the rights to.

That is not freedom my friend, that's socialism. Our Governments sole responsability is protecting the homeland from foreign invaders. Everything else is not their job. That being said, that is the only job they refuse to do. That's why are borders are still wide open.

We have allowed this Government to become something it was never intended to be. We are becoming a nanny state where everyone thinks the Government is the solution to all our problems. Our Government hasn't run one program succesfully execpt the IRS. Our Government is the problem! The only thing they are good at is taking and spending our money. They were never designed to do this.

Again the only job they were supposed to be there for is homeland security. They can't even do that right.

Keep you're socialism .

BloodStone...

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Keep you're socialism .

 

Yes we will. We don’t have to pay for healthcare or education.

 

You’ve been brainwashed into fearing the commies sooooooooo much you can’t see any of the benefits.

 

You can’t see the wood through the trees.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

Then bloodstone íf you don´t agree fine...

...but would you be open to the idea of mixing both systems if there was a possibility?

Both ideas has its positive sides...

And if we add both into one...maybe a new era of financial proportions can be born...

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

I'd rather learn how to take care of myself...money's tight for some of that in my world due to name thieves; unethical business practice; and slowed down economy...because of selfish creeps. Between the stealers that the gov calls civil infraction  instead of criminals, which is their responsibility to stop, and the milk and butter beggars that the gov harvests and steals from, your choices shrink. No money; no choices; no freedom. Geting in line for medicine sucks and can take too long and kill. Enjoy your "freebee" socialism. Must be nice not to have to take care of yourself. Democracy, like Socialism, when leashed, has its place, but I'll not care a whit for it if it slows my money; medicine; choices and freedom  down..and it is too big already. This Republic was doing pretty damn good until the Theives hurt the monies of this planet and clowns are trying to cure it w/ socialism which has historically never ever worked. It has failed again and again...look at European socialism - they were in a money crunch long before we were and their open borders are costing them even more. South American socialism has got a really great record (NOT!) ....Chinese comunism was a peoples poverty syndrome until that Gov started practicing capitalism. Russia (USSR) fell. Today only the gov of Russia has the bucks. I wonder whos got a cute reply for that.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

I’ve never notice how scared you yanks are about commies before.

 

The reason Europe suffering more than anyone else is because three countries are keeping twenty-two. It doesn’t work when that is the case.

 

`Must be nice not to have to take care of yourself`

 

You have this whole `holier than thou` thing going on don’t you. Apart from the fact we pay higher taxes than you (55%+ in Denmark and for some groups in the UK).

 

You think we can afford to sit down all day and do piss all don’t you. All because the government pay for something’s.

 

I tell you what. Everyone in Europe sit down and do nothing. Screw that, lets becomes the USSE and all say F*** off to the rest of the world togetherSmile. Lets see how far they get with out us. I give them five years.

 

Your system has fallen over, mainly because Europe fell (I don’t blame the USA for the recession I blame the EU and BrownYell), it’s time to change. Half and half is the next option.

 

 

 

Can I ask you something? Where is the US government getting all this money from. Commies. The Russians and Chinese are giving you the money.

 

 

 

 

 

You’ve got commie money.Laughing

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

And do you know why you pay 55+% in taxes? For all you're so called free bees. Hmmm not really free now is it? That's why I don't want you're socialism. It's not free either. It's too damn expensive.

You pay for all the losers who refuse to do the right thing.

 

I work hard for my money, I'll be damned if I'm going to spend it paying for an octomom to go around spitting out kids for her own delusional reasons.

 

My money is my money ! period. If I want to give it to charity I'll write them a check. I don't need my Government stealing it from me to give it to the people who are too lazy to get a job.

 

This country was running fine till the appeaser in cheif decided to give away all our money. President Bush spend 350 billion dollars. That was more than enough to get the economy rolling again. All this extra money hasn't even made it into the economy yet,and it already started to turn around. Now If The appeaser in cheif would keep his mouth shut long enough we may finally see real results.

 

This was nothing more than a march to socialism designed by the same scumbags that destroyed our economy so they could get Obummer elected.I wasn't fooled then ,I am not fooled now.

 

keep you're socialism, we have change to worry about.

 

 

BloodStone...

 

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

 

Keep you're socialism .

 

Yes we will. We don’t have to pay for healthcare or education.

 

You’ve been brainwashed into fearing the commies sooooooooo much you can’t see any of the benefits.

 

You can’t see the wood through the trees.

 

Whos brainwashed? You pay 55+% and you still think you get this for free ? That's the funniest damn thing I ever heard!

 

 

BloodStone...

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

And do you know why you pay 55+% in taxes? For all you're so called free bees. Hmmm not really free now is it? That's why I don't want you're socialism. It's not free either. It's too damn expensive.

You pay for all the losers who refuse to do the right thing. 

 only them who make millions per month pay that much in tax (i don't agree with it either they could and should tax every one the same)

 

 

 

sorry if i misspelt anything, i'm eating a banana.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

 

 

Keep you're socialism .

 

Yes we will. We don’t have to pay for healthcare or education.

 

You’ve been brainwashed into fearing the commies sooooooooo much you can’t see any of the benefits.

 

You can’t see the wood through the trees.

 

Whos brainwashed? You pay 55+% and you still think you get this for free ? That's the funniest damn thing I ever heard!

 

 

BloodStone...

 

i'm going to let that go because i didn't say who pays that much.

 

 

 

and yes... you are the funnist thing i've heard too.Wink

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

 

Keep you're socialism .

 

Yes we will. We don’t have to pay for healthcare or education.

 

You’ve been brainwashed into fearing the commies sooooooooo much you can’t see any of the benefits.

 

You can’t see the wood through the trees.

 You're the brainwashed crowd.

 

Your socialized medicine is bankrupt, like all the social programs here in the states.  The reason the USA was founded as a free enterprise system is socialism is nothing new and our founder knew that it always fails.  Governement is not the solution, government is the problem.

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

Quote Lashmar:

You’ve got commie money.

 

Great! I always wanted commie money. "Kill a commie for mommie."


[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

As always, all of you people only sees things in one single way.

There are atleast 2 sides of Socialism.

The liberal and the conservative.

 

The Liberal Socialism atleast in Sweden.

They want to make everything better for the people and stop the corruption in companies and so on.

Sure we pay a bit higher taxes with this method but we get more Jobs, Education,Health care,Security and so on.

Also the climate issue is very important.

 

The Conservative Socialism in Sweden.

They want lower taxes but they at the same time cut the budget for Health care, Education, Security and jobs for the working class.

At the same time companies and rich people get even more money and power and no one seems to bother stopping them no matter how unjust their salary is for example.

Many colleges and hospitals have already suffered and still suffering from all cut downs while many people are losing their jobs.

That proves that the Conservative side only cares about their own and not the people who makes this country and I`m sure it is like this no matter what country or system anyone have.

 

 

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

You're the brainwashed crowd.

 

Your socialized medicine is bankrupt, like all the social programs here in the states.  The reason the USA was founded as a free enterprise system is socialism is nothing new and our founder knew that it always fails.  Governement is not the solution, government is the problem.

 How many of your politicians are on the payroll from big companies? Most.

Our medicine isn’t bankrupt, it’s the labor government how have made it that way. With there `targets` and `action plans` along with there cost cutting, because we have to keep every parasite in the world (including the French).

 

I forgot to mention the EU in that. We pay about eighty million into that every year (I think I’m right I’ll have to look it up). And considering we HAVE to keep almost half of our armed forces inside the EU border, the money that we spend on them two things per year we could easily fix the NHS and the Education.

 

 

[L[Quote]] · 1961 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

As always, all of you people only sees things in one single way.

There are atleast 2 sides of Socialism.

The liberal and the conservative.

 

The Liberal Socialism atleast in Sweden.

They want to make everything better for the people and stop the corruption in companies and so on.

Sure we pay a bit higher taxes with this method but we get more Jobs, Education,Health care,Security and so on.

Also the climate issue is very important.

 

The Conservative Socialism in Sweden.

They want lower taxes but they at the same time cut the budget for Health care, Education, Security and jobs for the working class.

At the same time companies and rich people get even more money and power and no one seems to bother stopping them no matter how unjust their salary is for example.

Many colleges and hospitals have already suffered and still suffering from all cut downs while many people are losing their jobs.

That proves that the Conservative side only cares about their own and not the people who makes this country and I`m sure it is like this no matter what country or system anyone have.

 

 

 

Sounds like our lot.

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

Do you feel safer with Obama at the helm with bad guys like NK, or with Bush?

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Do you feel safer with Obama at the helm with bad guys like NK, or with Bush?

I'm English my friend. NK who is he?

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Our Governments sole responsability is protecting the homeland from foreign invaders. Everything else is not their job. 

BloodStone...

Actually..that's the military's job..under the direction of our government.

It's just ONE of our governments jobs.

A governemnet is formed by a group of people (or sometimes forced upon a group of people)..to GOVERN the group, as a whole.

Governing includes many things..not the least of which are decided upon laws..or rules of conduct within the group being governed.

A part of governing is to protect and provide for it's people/group.

Not just militarily.

Governments provide rules..infrastructure..protection..good and services  all for a cost.

Goods, services, taxes..all supplied to it by it's peoples.

It's all very tribal (pack instinct..as in "the leader of the pack")

This is Sociology/Social Science 101

 

Our government charges us A-LOT, by way of taxation.

They should be expected to provide goods and services for charges rendered.

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Our government charges us A-LOT, by way of taxation.

They should be expected to provide goods and services for charges rendered.

 Thinking about it. The USA government should be able to get away with taxing every one 25% or less.

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

At the same time companies and rich people get even more money and power and no one seems to bother stopping them no matter how unjust their salary is for example.

Many colleges and hospitals have already suffered and still suffering from all cut downs while many people are losing their jobs.

That proves that the Conservative side only cares about their own and not the people who makes this country and I`m sure it is like this no matter what country or system anyone have.

 

 

Dude, you are in an ignorance spiral.  Its none of your business what someone's salary is.  A person's salary is between employer and employee, no one else.  What does a person's salary have to do with you?  There is no such thing as an "unjust salary".  Its people like you who want the government to tax people and force everyone to pay these same people even more money.  And THAT is unjust.

 

Why don't you spend your money and go to medical school, spend the 11 years in schools and another 8-12 years as an intern and then have to spend the rest of your life working 100 hours a week.  Plus you'll be taxed into poverty and you have to pay a large percentage of your salary for mal-practice insurance because left wing kooks sue every time something doesn't work out the way they want.  Then we'll see what you think is unjust.

 

The most expensive thing in life is ignorance.

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 Its none of your business what someone's salary is. 

 

When we own the banks it kinda is.

 

`taxed into poverty`

 

How much do you think the tax us. Read what I posted, `only them who earn million per month are taxed 55%` it’s not hard.

 

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

 

Our Governments sole responsability is protecting the homeland from foreign invaders. Everything else is not their job.

BloodStone...

Actually..that's the military's job..under the direction of our government.

It's just ONE of our governments jobs.

A governemnet is formed by a group of people (or sometimes forced upon a group of people)..to GOVERN the group, as a whole.

Governing includes many things..not the least of which are decided upon laws..or rules of conduct within the group being governed.

A part of governing is to protect and provide for it's people/group.

Not just militarily.

Governments provide rules..infrastructure..protection..good and services  all for a cost.

Goods, services, taxes..all supplied to it by it's peoples.

It's all very tribal (pack instinct..as in "the leader of the pack")

This is Sociology/Social Science 101

 

Our government charges us A-LOT, by way of taxation.

They should be expected to provide goods and services for charges rendered.

You make some good points bionic woman.  The government does have a number of duties and, at least in the USA, those duties are clearly defined in the Constitution.  But over time the US government has abandoned the Constitution in favor of "comprehensive" government with no limits on power.  And THAT is the real problem.  The government has usurped the rights of individuals with reckless abandon and is now seeking to abandon freedom entirely and install what will effectively be a communist dictatorship like that of Cuba.  In fact they have many times, and are doing so this very day, praised Fidel Castro, the brutal tyrant who imprisons, tortures and executes anyone who speaks out.  They also defend Saddam Hussein, Adolf Hitler and the Chinese Communists who have committed enumerable atrocities.  Now do you see the problem?

 

You are right to demand that the government actually provide the services they taxed us for but it will never happen because federalist government tax systems are a scam.

 

People are really underestimating the level of evil going in this world today, much like they did prior to WW-II.

 

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

Its none of your business what someone's salary is.

 

When we own the banks it kinda is.

`taxed into poverty`

How much do you think the tax us. Read what I posted, `only them who earn million per month are taxed 55%` it’s not hard.

Who is "we"?  If you mean the government, the government shouldn't be owning banks.  The government does not know how to run a bank, or any other business for that matter.  And it was government who created the current mess we are in right now.  You should definately look into the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac scandal, disaster created by government.

 

Everyone should pay the same percentage in taxes.  A flat tax is the only tax that is fair.

[L[Quote]] · 1960 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

The governments can’t run themselves.

 

I agree with you on the taxes. 10/15% for all.

[L[Quote]] · 1959 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

55% taxes aren't that bad when you don't have to pay for hardly anything, is it now?

 

it's the same Bloodstone. Youre money isn't your money, you're still paying for people who don't wanna do the right thing and work, so it makes no difference. You've been convinced that one is better then the other for a reason that is illegitimate, for both systems have the same problem, which you profess yours does not.

[L[Quote]] · 1959 days ago · [L[0 points]] ·
 

 

55% taxes aren't that bad when you don't have to pay for hardly anything, is it now?

 

it's the same Bloodstone. Youre money isn't your money, you're still paying for people who don't wanna do the right thing and work, so it makes no difference. You've been convinced that one is better then the other for a reason that is illegitimate, for both systems have the same problem, which you profess yours does not.

But the thing is, the yanks system has failed. End of. The system we have in the UK will always work. Look at now, it’s being run by brown and his bunch of prats and it still works. If we had the yanks system we’d been all over the place