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The British government IS, 100%, Illegal!
January 26, 2010
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They've broke the English Constitution! Laugh Laugh Laugh Therefore they should be disassembled immediately and tried for High Treason.

http://www.constitution.org/en.....ng_bor.htm

This is the part they've broken:

And I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God

It basically says that the British government shall have the final say and that they have NO right to hand that power over. That means that the EU has no power here of any kind because they are a `foreign` power.

I'm about to write to my MP about this and I beg all english to do the same, it's time to stand up for ourselves once more.

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February 1, 2010
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"Lashmar" wrote: They've broke the English Constitution! Laugh Laugh Laugh Therefore they should be disassembled immediately and tried for High Treason.

http://www.constitution.org/en.....ng_bor.htm

This is the part they've broken:

And I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God

It basically says that the British government shall have the final say and that they have NO right to hand that power over. That means that the EU has no power here of any kind because they are a `foreign` power.

I'm about to write to my MP about this and I beg all english to do the same, it's time to stand up for ourselves once more.

I think you and me are gonna get along very nicely hun ....................

Seeing as I'm English and always have believed that our so called government have forever been holding back on sooooo much...............

They dont like the 'little people' standing up and voicing their opinions etc

I mean look what happened to Dr Kelly ?

February 1, 2010
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"Medusa" wrote: I think you and me are gonna get along very nicely hun ....................

Seeing as I'm English and always have believed that our so called government have forever been holding back on sooooo much...............

They dont like the 'little people' standing up and voicing their opinions etc

You seem to be getting better and better. ๐Ÿ˜€ They are holding back a lot of info; I don't know if you've seen it but they've put a 70/80 year clamp on Dr. Kelly's Postmortem results, I was at my girlfriends when this came out so I'm not sure how much of it was reported on the news to be honest.

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February 1, 2010
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"Lashmar" wrote:

You seem to be getting better and better. ๐Ÿ˜€ They are holding back a lot of info; I don't know if you've seen it but they've put a 70/80 year clamp on Dr. Kelly's Postmortem results, I was at my girlfriends when this came out so I'm not sure how much of it was reported on the news to be honest.

DAM have just seen it hunnie

Medical records which would shed light on the death of government scientist David Kelly will be kept secret for 70 years, it emerged yesterday.
The unprecedented move has been ordered by Lord Hutton, who chaired the inquiry which controversially concluded that the mysterious death was suicide.
It means vital evidence, including the results of Dr Kelly's post-mortem examination - which have never been made public - will remain under wraps until 2073, by which time anyone involved in the case will almost certainly be dead.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... z0eEsUyjiU

Just like Princess Di's one as well, no ones gonna be around to see that x ๐Ÿ‘ฟ

February 1, 2010
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"Medusa" wrote: [quote="Lashmar"]

You seem to be getting better and better. ๐Ÿ˜€ They are holding back a lot of info; I don't know if you've seen it but they've put a 70/80 year clamp on Dr. Kelly's Postmortem results, I was at my girlfriends when this came out so I'm not sure how much of it was reported on the news to be honest.

DAM have just seen it hunnie

Clearly it wasn't put out for very long. I only saw it on the BBC news channel at 2am and again a few days later on the Telegraph, I haven't seen it anywhere else. By the looks of it they've snuck that out very well. ๐Ÿ˜ก

Oh well, just more ammo to use against them.

Update on the legality issue. I'm still waiting on the archives to get back to me and I'm hoping they come back with the right answer (the law still stands) and if they do then I'm getting straight onto UKIP, BNP (not that I like them), English Democrats and every other party I can think of that could damage the Big Parties.

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February 1, 2010
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"Lashmar" wrote:

Clearly it wasn't put out for very long. I only saw it on the BBC news channel at 2am and again a few days later on the Telegraph, I haven't seen it anywhere else. By the looks of it they've snuck that out very well. ๐Ÿ˜ก

Oh well, just more ammo to use against them.

Update on the legality issue. I'm still waiting on the archives to get back to me and I'm hoping they come back with the right answer (the law still stands) and if they do then I'm getting straight onto UKIP, BNP (not that I like them), English Democrats and every other party I can think of that could damage the Big Parties.

Very true hunnie, 'they' being the operative word are everywhere and do their best to only let us see certain things and other things they change, alter or just make dissapear straight away............

At the end of the day, 'they' only look on us as a mere number, or born free and tax to death...........

We are mere individuals, and have to make ourselves heard as best we can while we are still here on this plane lov ๐Ÿ™‚

February 4, 2010
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"Lashmar" wrote: Update on the legality issue. I'm still waiting on the archives to get back to me and I'm hoping they come back with the right answer (the law still stands) and if they do then I'm getting straight onto UKIP, BNP (not that I like them), English Democrats and every other party I can think of that could damage the Big Parties.

Well this is funny...the Parliamentary Archives Team are NOT legally trained! They've got back to me today and this is their reply:

Dear Mr Lashmar

Thank you for your enquiry.

Unfortunately, the Parliamentary Archives staff are not legally trained so we cannot provide legal advice, nor do we have the necessary resources to undertaken any enquiries of a legal nature. Normally, in response to questions such as yours, we refer researchers to the Statute Law Database as this generally shows when acts have been amended or superseded etc. I note however that you have already used that facility.

I am sorry that in this case we are not able to assist you with this legal question and can only suggest reference to a trained legal adviser as a course of investigation. The Law Society may be able to assist in finding an appropriately trained specialist in this area: http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/home.law

Yours sincerely

Claire Batley

Now the problem is that the English Constitution is not very well known about here at all so it's going to be very, very difficult to find anyone trained in Constitutional law. I'm going to write to my MEP later tonight and ask him if he has any suggestions on what to do, I'll write to the law society later as well. ๐Ÿ˜€

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February 16, 2010
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My latest E-mail to my MEP on this subject:

Dear David Campbell Bannerman,

I E-mailed you back on the 9th of December about the Lisbon Treaty and if there was any possibility that the EU would take over out gun laws, Mr. Gulleford answered very quickly as well thank you, and since then I have gone away and started doing some research into the English Bill of Rights and Iโ€™m wondering what law has been passed that surpassed this part of the document:

"And I do declare that no foreign prince, person, prelate, state or potentate hath or ought to have any jurisdiction, power, superiority, pre-eminence or authority, ecclesiastical or spiritual, within this realm. So help me God"

Here is the link to the document and that section is under "Supremacy":

http://www.statutelaw.gov.uk/content.as ... Id=1518621

I've looked at the amendments at the bottom of the document held on the Statue Law Database but I cannot find anything which says there has ever been a law passed that would over rule that section; I've also contacted the Parliamentary Archives and they told me they do not have the resources to look into this because they are not legally trained. Does that mean that this section still stands as law? To me that does very clearly say that either the British government is illegal, for allowing the EU to have power in this country, or the EU itself is illegal. I am absolutely sure I once read an MEP bring this point up once but I canโ€™t remember who or even when it was.

I've been passed about with this inquiry a fair bit so far so Iโ€™m not entirely sure if youโ€™ll be able to help answer the actual question but do you have any idea's on who or even what area of law I should contact? I have looked on the Law Societies website and I havenโ€™t been able to find a Constitutional lawyer on there and Iโ€™m not sure if this would count of `EU` law or `British` law.

I fully expect this to be `old news` and a question you have answered many times before but this isn't important because it could prove that the EU has no right to govern in the UK but it is important because it will show the lengths that these people in Brussels will go to just to gain more and more control; it shows that in a very, very simple and easy to understand way that they've passed a new law to change something in our constitution and yet again they haven't told the British Public about it!

Yours Sincerely, once again

Lashmar

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Dear Mr Lashmar

Thank you for your email dated 8th February 2010, addressed to David Campbell Bannerman. Mr Campbell Bannerman has asked me to reply on his behalf.

May I congratulate you on your excellent research and I believe you are perfectly correct in suggesting that the English Bill of Rights has been compromised by our membership of the European Union. This has been looked into a number of times before and the conclusion is very much the same as your own.

I don't think it is a case of the law having been changed in order to undermine the Bill of Rights. I think it is more a case of the Bill of Rights being ignored. I believe that what has been done is highly questionable from a legal point of view but the great difficulty is in finding the necessary funds in which to launch a legal action. The sums involved are likely to be very considerable.

Attempts have been made to prosecute members of the British government for treason, for signing up to various EU treaties and legislation. This foundered on the fact that the offence of treason had been quietly removed.

There are many things that have been done that compromise sacred principles in this country. Not least the fact that 'no Parliament should bind its successor'. Most regrettably, this principle is routinely ignored as this government is regularly signing up to new treaties, such as Lisbon and to a raft of legislation from the EU, much of which does solidly bind successor governments.

Please do pass your research around to your friends and acquaintances because it is vitally important that more people begin to understand what is happening to our country. We shall do the same from our end of things.

Best wishes,

Stuart Gulleford
Political Advisor - Eastern Counties

I'm planning on asking my Lib Dem (pro EU) MEP about what he thinks of this. I hate the Lib Dems so this should be fun. ๐Ÿ˜€

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February 16, 2010
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Please do pass your research around to your friends and acquaintances because it is vitally important that more people begin to understand what is happening to our country. We shall do the same from our end of things.

Best wishes,

Stuart Gulleford
Political Advisor - Eastern Counties

I find it very interesting and flattering to you as well Lash,that this gentleman, (don't truly understands where he fits into the british ladder of constitution,oF justuce..minister of something?? need to go back and check the details.) He sent you such a fine letter of reply,encouraging you to pass around your view of the "truth" of this matter invovling the EU.

I think he has respect for what you said,I think many of these souls, who try to fight for conceptions of ideals that they felt strongly about, get lost in the ladders, of service? I truly feel sorry for all the souls caught up in political powers struggles, trying to serve the people, they care about through that process. It can't be easy being born into having to make decisions that will influence many , or taken to that postition of power, on the faith and trust of the many who voted for you.

hey Lash, if you could sit down to a nice cup of tea ,and a whole afternoon worth of conversation with this?...sir....(sorta forget ๐Ÿ˜‰ )

would you be willing...I think to me he sounded very sympathetic to how you saw the situation, and even asked you to promote those thoughts amonst others?
anyway you slice it,wish you could get to meet this dude, and have a really good talk about things. a "heart" to "heart", over a cup of tea

February 16, 2010
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Stuart is just an advisor, he doesn't have any power he just helps our Bannerman. We're both UKIP supporters, although I'm more extreme in my views, so we're on the same side. ๐Ÿ˜€ I would have tea with him as well love. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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